Just curious - blur spotting again what is that 'ship' just near the top rim of the saucer section
to the top left?
Also, try fixing the Gamma correction - you might get more detail...
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that ship at the rim of the princeton could be the chekov. there appears to be a saucer with two nacelles. one question about the princeton, what is the small "pimple" at the edge of the bulge? this feature of the hull appears to be raised-one half in shadow, other half in light. further notes, princeton's registry is a few centimeters forward of the bulge. princeton's saucer seems to be out of alignment. battle damage? all the nacelles are connected to the ship at the dorsal, not one to the dorsal and two to the ventral as in the ff diagram. as far as i can tell, this is one of the mistakes made by the artist. the others is the omission of the "pimple" or "pimples" found near the bridge and the ambassador class secondary hull. secondary hull seems to be daedalus-like-circular with the deflector dish beneath the saucer. so in my imagination, i imagine the niagara to have the following description= saucer is circular like those of the constitution. there is a center bulge which holds the bridge. towards the rear of the bulge at southwest and southeast (if the bulge faced north), there are two small bumps-function uncertain. at the rear of the saucer or at the connecting neck, there is the impulse drive. connecting neck-probably thin and completely underneath the saucer. secondary hull-circular with the deflector dish forward. connected to the sh's dorsal side, there are placed three nacelles. they are connected to the secondary hull by a center pylon which holds the center nacelle. pylons to the outboard nacelles are wide and cover most of the secondary hull. nacelles are thin at the front and widen towards the back. similar in appearance to gc but of older construction. date of construction for this ship-2330's to 2350's based on registries-NCC-28473 and NCC-58904. this class is not the best designed and is rather ugly. it probably served as a cruiser.
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The NCC-28473 seems to be some sort of a mistake - another reference in the Encyclopedia gives a standard 58000-range rego for the Wellington. So there's no definite need to assume that this is an older vessel possibly refitted with TNG-style nacelles later on. It's just one possibility.
The ship may in reality look much better than in the pictures. It might still be that the seemingly twisted saucer is in fact mounted quite straight, and the bridge superstructure simply is wider astern, shaped like a pear or something (the starboard parts would simply be in too deep a shadow to be seen). Can we contact Greg Jein to see if he has any photos or further info? It now seems well established that he's the one responsible for this beast.
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I watched it again this weekend and saw the Princeton definitely has no right nacelle. My only explanation is that it was ripped off, I don't believe that the strut was bent in a way that the right nacelle is now in the middle.
targetemployee: How can you know the secondary hull is Daedalus-like? All I could tell about it is that it's rather narrow and we don't know its length.
Note the bulge on the center nacelle? This looks very similar to the AGT Enterprise and the WoTW Galaxy-class.
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Well, if it IS a refit Constitution saucer, it would certainly fit the USS Gage's NCC-11672 registry... also, it looks like part of the saucer is indeed shaded and part has been blown off, and the engines are somehow connected directly to the rear of the saucer somehow?
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Bernd, Lee - whoever did that compile pic - or anyone looking at it for that matter - is that 'video static' on the bottom - cause if not - that suacer looks like it has a horizontal 'thing' (nacelle??) above and below it!?! ??The CHEKOV!?!
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Okay, I think I spotted the Chekov, thanks to Bernd's great site - if you look at the picture of the Niagara, the ship seen in the distance to the left over the bow seems to match his two schematics. Kind of. Actually, it seems to be a combination of the two possible schematics, being very similar to the framework one, except instead of the "marker pen" engines sprouting off the top of the saucer, they are on long pylons sticking straight out the side (and possibly angled downwards) of the long secondary hull. The front of the saucer is covered in shadows. Am I hallucinating, crazy, or can anyone else make this out? Of course, if you look at it crosseyed, it also could have four nacelles , but I hope not...
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Erm... Can you be a bit more specific? The only distant ships in the vicinity of the Niagara are nothing more than microscopic, blurry smudges to me.
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Hey, Frank - sheesh! Anyway - That doesn't mean that that was all the starships in that scene... ok it probably was - but what about the Bonestell - they didn't mention the Oberth class Bonestell in that paragraph - although they could have been referring to that particular shot, but do you know if the picture posted is what the paragraph is referring to?
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Well, I hesitate to show you this pic, but it looks as if this contradicts what Frank is saying. http://w1.314.telia.com/~u31412332/star-trek/wolfunknown.JPG This is no excelsior, but what it is I have no idea. Almost looks like a constellation-variant to me.
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, but I hope not...
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