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Grapeape: Just reread your post about the Niagara and the saucer being 2 galaxy saucer halfs. I think your right, but, Ithink the 2 halfs have been placed side to side so that the saucer is longer than wider. The 4 big cut outs look too angular to be classed as damage ,unles Borg cutting weapons include Jig saws or Circular saws. They would be where the Impulse units were and widened to the saucer's edge. The other smaller cutouts would be where the RCS quads should be.
Then again I havn't got a model kit to look at and I don't know if there would be any Escape pods or windows visible.
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Hey, that's a very good idea! (The sideways saucer halves, if not the starting of page seven... )
If we do assume two Galaxy saucer aft halves, then the saucer would be symmetric again and not off kilt wrt the rest of the ship. It is just the bridge superstructure that is at an odd angle (or in too deep shadows on the starboard side for its shape to be correctly determined).
And the secondary hull could well be a big Constitution hull, just camouflaged a bit.
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Re that pic link - I THINK - that the bigger 'blob' is the remnants of the Sara. and below the white 'bar'/nacelle whatever - in the lower left corner is the Excelsior...
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Andrew: The paragraph is referring to the scene in which the Saratoga explodes. That is, from when the escape pod ejects, to after Sisko watches the explosion. There aren't any other ships in the scene.
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Oh boy. I haven't been able to keep up. When this debate is almost done can someone post a page with graphics pointing to the different ships of what we have confirmed and what we are still guessing on?
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this is one design idea that I have heard batted around the Internet for the Apollo class starships: New Orleans-class (sans pods on dorsal surface of saucer) saucer section attached to scaled-down version of Galaxy-class drive section (same connecting dorsal, same engineering hull, same nacelle support pylon structure, just scaled down) with Cheyenne-class warp nacelles instead of of Galaxy class nacelles. Categorically speaking, this ship would probably be a light cruiser.
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Chris - I just visited the CSY site and am still hyperventilating. How did you clean up all the screencaps to such clarity?
Just wanted to ask, do you think the Niagara screencap really is a bottom view, or was that a typo? Plus, the picture seems to show more clearly than before what is shadow and what is charring on that ship, and it does look as if the bridge superstructure is off kilt wrt the rest of the ship. Seems really weird. How could such damage (to the model, let alone the supposed ship) take place?
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Another thing about CSY: the reconstruction of the Nebula study model seems plausible yet quite radically different from the other model, let alone from the final photographic model. Here's a suggestion: perhaps this ship should be the Rigel class USS Tolstoy?
We know there was no real Tolstoy built for the episode. We also know the Rigels are supposed to have NCCs in the 62000 range. And we "know" that USS Melbourne was actually an Excelsior class ship. So why not use this clearly Nebula-related and thus justifiably 62000-registered, yet still externally quite distinct ship model as our Rigel, and forget all about it being named the Melbourne?
The name is probably utterly unreadable, considering the severe damage to the primary hull. And what little might remain of the registry would match both the Tolstoy and the Melbourne - both have NCC-620XX, and even the XX=43 and XX=95 look extremely similar from a distance!
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