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Boris, that ventral alcove on the tail is actually windows. There are 3 similar to Voyager's aft shuttlebay lounge.
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Jim Phelps
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1. There is an identical-yet-scaled-down set of landing struts (if that's what they are) in the aft portion of the secondary hull, just forward of the tractor emitter rectangle. You can barely make them out in the scanned image, but they are identical in the original photo.
4. There is a Tim Earls blueprint aft view which doesn't seem to show the alcove, it might not be sufficiently detailed.
In general, it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out the purpose of any of these widgets - Rick Sternbach is fairly consistent in his designs, and we can always ask.
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You know, this little 6 inch model I got is amazingly accurate for not having the info we just got. All the details are there, but some are a little out of place and slightly misshaped. And if you think it looks chubby on a 2-d screen, you should see it in it's full 3-d beauty. Thing looks like it has a thyroid problem! And it goes great next to my Voyager model that happens to be in the same scale. I got pictures of it if you want to see.
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Anyway, I like the ship and it's cool that it has landing struts since it was stated that the ship conducts planetary research. But why no aft rendering of the ship?
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Did anyone notice how the nacelles look similar to the alternate Intrepid Class nacelles in Star Trek: Starship Creator?
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Anyone know the length of the Nova? Assuming Voyager is 344m. Or is there a canon length?
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Boris: your pic, is that the pic from the magazine?
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Damn you for giving me multiple orgasms just like that!!! These are gorgeous!
I matched the dorsal view with a dorsal defiant-pic I have, it really puts matters in perspective. The detailing and windows of the Nova had me thinking 200-300 metres of her but it would lose hands down against a Defiant (besides the fact that it's a science-vessel).
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I did a number of size calculations. The episodes themselves offer two compelling pieces of evidence: the simulation Okudagram and the MSD comparison Okudagram. The latter scales to less than 150m, the former to about 172+/-4m. Which is correct?
Fortunately, we have a couple of other pieces of evidence. Rick Sternbach mentioned (while still designing the Equinox) that the ship will have six 13' decks and two 16' decks. The Tim Earls layout does show that Decks 3 and 4 are larger than the rest, which supports the statement. I assumed that the overall deck span is 110' (=6*13+2*16), matched the figure with Earls' deck lines and got 200 +/- 9 meters.
Now, the situation is not so simple - the Earls schematics show that the other decks are not equally tall, while Deck 3 is a pixel taller than Deck 4. I still equated the span of these two decks with 32 feet, and got an overall length of 179 +/- 9 meters.
Finally, I set the lowest deck heights in the Earls schematics (8 pixels) equal to 10 feet. The result is 170 +/- 10m.
It should also be noted that the bridge of a 110m Defiant gives a 148m Pathfinder, while the bridge of a 171m Defiant gives a 229m Pathfinder. Overall, however, it would seem to me that the canon 172m fits most of the other evidence.
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The Bridge of the Equinox may simply be shaped like the Defiant's FROM THE OUTSIDE. It looks nothing like the Defiant's layout inside. Therefore I do not think that size comparisons based on the (disputed) dimensions of everone's favourite Escort are of any use.
Very cool pics, lest I forget the raging horn I had when I first saw them. Not.
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Rick Sternbach started out by showing his execs the Pathfinder in scale with Voyager according to the Magazine. How did he scale it that first time? Presumably by assuming that the Defiant is 560' long and scaling the bridge accordingly. After all, the pathfinder was designed with a 170m Defiant in mind. Did he keep the size afterwards? The question is worth considering.
Also, there is the whole issue with nearly identical designs of different sizes, even though we've seen a couple on the show. This doesn't seem to be the case here, as the first half of the saucer is four decks tall on both ships judging by deflector grid lines. These are some of the points that suggest an identical size for both the pathfinder and the Equinox.
And it goes great next to my Voyager model that happens to be in the same scale. I got pictures of it if you want to see. 
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