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Aban Rune
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Psyliam: Thanks for clearing that up. I'll have to go back and watch my tape of Encounter and see if I can pick up the model...

You've got to admire the creative department for going to that kind of detail before the series had really even gotten off the ground.

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PsyLiam
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Although there was a mcuh better reason why the Stargazer had a STII style bridge-set. It WAS the STII bridge set.

Kinda. The STI-III bridge set was used as the battle bridge. And the Stargazer bridge. And the Ent-C bridge. And the bridge of the Miranda class ship from Crappy Aging Episode. And the bridge of the pirate ship from Gambit. And the computer core from the episode with the Nanites. And about a million other things too.

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I just remembered something from the TNGTM. It says something about a yellow warp-stress visibility coating.

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Timo: "-weapons were apparently controlled from the starboard side of the bridge, not the special "booth" on the port side (IIRC, we didn't get a good look at the port side at all.)"

It Seem that they cover it up. I take a picture of it from the startrek.com promo video. here's the link:
http://www.geocities.com/wwf_4_ever_316/StargazerBridgeLeft.html

Anyone got better pictures???

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That's all we need to see... The Stargazer bridge takes the aft third of the move set bridge, ie. the part that we see as the E-D battle bridge in the first season, and complete it with the battle bridge set slightly modified to remove the doors at the foreward port. You can see the BB viewer at the front.

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Look at the yellow 'Stargazer'/'7100' model... its not just entirely yellow... the other parts have been painted their correct colours - the greebly bits... but the hull is just a yellow instead of the white/grey... maybe that ship could be the "mysterious ship of Picard's" from his missing years between his command of the Stargazer and his command of the Enterprise-D?


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quote:
maybe that ship could be the "mysterious ship of Picard's" from his missing years between his command of the Stargazer and his command of the Enterprise-D?

Pray tell, what is this all about?

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AndrewR
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Basically, noone knows what Picard did from his Courtmartial after the loss of the Stargazer to his commission as the Captain of the Enterprise-D Supposedly there was about 20 years in between... I think.

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Not quite that much. Picard lost the Stargazer in 2355, and got command of the E-D in 2364. That's still some nine years of mystery.

Just before taking command of the E-D, Picard apparently met Tasha Yar while aboard a starship. A bit earlier, he had met Geordi LaForge while traveling aboard a shuttle. But that's pretty much all we know of his mystery years.

While we have no further datapoints of what happened to Picard in that time, we know what didn't happen. He didn't spend time with Beverly Crusher (since it's something of a recurring theme in early TNG that there remains much to be said between them, and contact after the death of Jack Crusher in 2354 seems unlikely). He didn't get promoted to flag rank and then demoted (or this would have come up during, say, "Coming of Age"). He didn't serve aboard a ship that would have had children aboard (he says so much in "Encounter at Farpoint"). And he did not establish a family he'd later tragically lose ("Generations" makes it clear that he's always been a swinging single).

Another ship to command is a possibility, as is a desk job or a stint at SF Intelligence cloak-and-dagger jobs, or a long SF Xenoarchaeology expedition.

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Serving onboard another Constellation class could fit?

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Too dull, I think. I can't imagine they just give out Enterprise's to anyone. Whatever Picard was doing, I'd bet it was pretty important and/or high profile.

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It's a good bet that whatever he did on that assignment was what gained him the command of the Enterprise. After Harriman, I don't think Starfleet hands their flagship out to just anyone. Jean-Luc Picard had to be the best and the brightest to gain that command ... and he did.

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If I remember right, FASA had Picard taking some sort of desk job as head of diplomatic relations or something like that...or some sort of "temporary ambassadorship" or attach�. I think it was in his bio in their TNG 1st-year sourcebook. Probably wrong, though.

Another thought: For those 9 years, Picard could have been the Starfleet version of Marko Ramius, taking out & testdriving new ships. He may have been plankowner of both Galaxy & Yamato, helping to handpick whoever would get them in the end.

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I don't think Picard's a model maker. If it's supposed to represent the Stargazer, I can surmise Picard picked it up in some shop that had starfleet models...since it's yellow, it seems to be more a display piece rather than a...miniature replica. Just like if you were to have a chrome ship or whatever...he probably got it from like the Franklin Mint of the 24th Century. So it's not the Stargazer...but that's what it represents to him.
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