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Dukhat
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You all know the story. In "Yesterday's Enterprise" TPTB needed a large Klingon ship to do battle with the Ent-D. However, since they didn't have a model to sufficiently portray that (the Vor'cha model hadn't been built yet), they decided to scale up the Klingon Bird-of-Prey to ridiculous proportions, or at least ridiculous until "The Defector", when the ship was scaled to hella-ridiculous proportions.

In recent times some info was shared to us that someone at least drilled window holes into the BoP model to make it look like a bigger ship (not that it mattered much in the final aired shots, since you couldn't see them).

First of all, I was wondering if any of you artists out there had ever drawn a K'Vort class ship in a more realistic perspective (i.e. the same general layout as the BoP, but scaled & designed more realistically to be a much larger ship). And second, if no one has, would someone like to try?

And before anyone does this, please don't post a picture of the Valdore... [Wink]

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Phoenix Merrick
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Humm...I like the sounds of this challenge. I'll see what, if any thing, I can come up with.

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Peregrinus
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I've been fiddling with this for some time, actually... Started with a BoP model kit, and went from there. Wings fixed, windows drilled, bow reshaped -- twin torp tubes and an airlock -- and new wingtip weapons pods. That last is my big puzzlement at the moment.

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Dukhat
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Cool! You have any pics?

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Jason Abbadon
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It's be nice to see torp pods on the wingtips instead of those silly 100 meter long KBOP cannons.

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Kazeite
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Well, I don't know... the cannon on refit Galaxy was, what... 300 meters long? [Big Grin]

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Jason Abbadon
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...and horribly silly....but still not a giant version of a smaller ship's phasers.
Imagine if they just increased the Connie Refit's size 500% and said it was a new class without so much as changing the windows.

When I built my "AGT" version Galaxy, I had to leave off over half of the silly add-ons (I also removed the Galaxy's silly "neck" so the third nacelle is not obstructed).

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jX
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
When I built my "AGT" version Galaxy, I had to leave off over half of the silly add-ons (I also removed the Galaxy's silly "neck" so the third nacelle is not obstructed).

Could you post a picture of this? I don't understand what "neck" you are referring to that would be removable.
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Jason Abbadon
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Here:
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1301771&uid=657989

The "neck" I removed is the "cobrahead" part of the secondary hull.

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Dax
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quote:
Originally posted by Dukhat:
You all know the story. In "Yesterday's Enterprise" TPTB needed a large Klingon ship to do battle with the Ent-D. However, since they didn't have a model to sufficiently portray that (the Vor'cha model hadn't been built yet), they decided to scale up the Klingon Bird-of-Prey to ridiculous proportions, or at least ridiculous until "The Defector", when the ship was scaled to hella-ridiculous proportions.

In recent times some info was shared to us that someone at least drilled window holes into the BoP model to make it look like a bigger ship (not that it mattered much in the final aired shots, since you couldn't see them).

"The Defector" was the first appearance of the giant KBoP and it wasn't until the later "Yesterday's Enterprise" that they supposedly drilled the windows in. The story goes that the upscaling in "The Defector" was a mistake, a VFX compositing error or something, but the size in "YE" was indeed intentional.

It's interesting to note that not only did "The Defector" have the first appearance of the monster BoP (intentional or not) but it also marked the first appearance of the 4' Ent-D miniature, and I've been led to believe that the Warbird was a new/replacement miniature too.

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jX
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
The "neck" I removed is the "cobrahead" part of the secondary hull.

That's what I thought you meant, but I just couldn't imagine cutting it out. It looks pretty good, though. I'm surprised. [Smile]

Your PictureTrail.com links don't work in Mozilla though. You know that Starfleet doesn't use IE, right? [Wink]

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Jason Abbadon
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No Mozilla?


hmmmm....Here's a small gallery that might work for you:
http://scn.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=17910131&f=95110692463&m=36110015463

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Cartman
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A neckless Galaxy. Cool.

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