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Here is my most recent work: the original drawings (from 1989), and my new schematic crafted in Photoshop.
The original ship was the U.S.S. Lea, again named for a girlfriend at the time. In this instance, however, I have renamed the ship the U.S.S. Liberi after the 14th-15th Century Italian Swordmaster; Fiore de Liberi.
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That's a biiiiig secondary hull ya got there. Compensating for some shortcoming in engineering, mabye?
Is the deck under the bridge another shuttlebay?
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Is the deck under the bridge another shuttlebay?
Actually, it's only just a long command hull with a rather plain rectangular window at the back; presumably where a lounge is located.
quote:Originally posted by B.J.: This configuration just screams movie-era Intrepid class to me.
I made that connection too, though the original drawing was done in �89; long before Voyager was even conceived.
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quote:Originally posted by Mucus: Hmmm, second ship looks like the Starfleet destroyer from SFC.
There is another site or 3 that actually has the stats from the FASA game system from the 80's, but Cleeve calls it "Durret" and i'm inclined to agree in principle at least...
Sorry, I can't find a better picture. Although, I suppose chronologically, your design would predate that, and their design is based on a SFB design or somesuch.
Yeah, I have the Starfleet Command game for PC and immediately recognized the design (They stole my design! ), though the SFC version has a pho-torp launcher on the lower dorsal.
Still, my design was drawn ~1988, and I can safely say that the only thing that influenced it was Franz Joseph�s TOS style Scout/Destroyer. I saw those ships and thought, �why not simply add another warp nacelle to the top?�
No doubt, I always figured that lots of folks probably came up with this idea as well, so I was never surprised to see this concept done elsewhere, albeit with somewhat varying details.
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This is the last of my custom starships. I seemed to have lost motivation lately to photoshop the top view, so I will go ahead a post what I have finished.
Also, here is a �variant� of my Sharp-class:
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Your Refit looks like an offshoot of the Belknap class. Is it a carrier? It could also be a niiice colony ship.
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I like the side view of that last movie-era ship, but I hate low-mounted nacelles. I also don't care for the way you've laid out the secondary hull... all wide and flat like that. But I really dig the deflector and the details on the side view of the secondary hull.
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About the Destroyer in SFC that is a beautiful ship but yours is way better though. The SFC version was basically a futurized Franz Joseph design with extra Naccelle and connie torp launcher underneath.
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Nice work you've done there. I like how you were able to blend in elements of the Belknap and Ingram designs (and one or two others from Starfleet Prototypes?).
Do you have any more floating around that you can show us?
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I think that to iron out the details of how the curves and straight lines intersect, you're going to have to try some front and rear views. Unless you do that, your ships are just sort of graphic exercises rather than realistic ships.
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For the Horizon, you should just put the dual launchers inside the lower part of the saucer. when you put it on top it reminds om of the TOS concept of putting the torp launchers underneath the bridge. One good phaser shot in that area, and the entire top saucer section goes boom...
I'll shutup now...
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quote:Originally posted by Jim NCC1701A: Do you have any more floating around that you can show us?
Actually, these are pretty much it. As I recall, there was at least one more design I played around with several years ago, but I do not seem to have kept any drawings of it. Basically, the design was simply a TOS/Franz Joseph style scout/destroyer with two nacelles (one port and one starboard) attached at the bottom of the dorsal via horizontal pylons. I had put a deflector dish sandwiched in-between.
quote:Originally posted by Masao: I think that to iron out the details of how the curves and straight lines intersect, you're going to have to try some front and rear views. Unless you do that, your ships are just sort of graphic exercises rather than realistic ships.
Thanks for the tips, but bear in mind that I simply wanted to �recreate� in Photoshop the designs I drew so many years ago. I am certainly no engineer or graphic designer, but quite frankly, I always thought that the designs held up pretty well to scrutiny, with perhaps the exception of the last movie-era ship shown in the thread (1564-A).
quote:Originally posted by Capt.Blair245: For the Horizon, you should just put the dual launchers inside the lower part of the saucer. when you put it on top it reminds om of the TOS concept of putting the torp launchers underneath the bridge. One good phaser shot in that area, and the entire top saucer section goes boom...
Yeah, I wasn�t going for practicality. The idea was, indeed, to pay �homage� to the Franz Joseph concept of placing the torpedo tubes just under the bridge. As stated before, this is an idea I gleaned from Starship Design.
Once again, thanks for all the comments. If I can ever muster the energy, I will try to photoshop additional views, but don�t hold your breath...
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), though the SFC version has a pho-torp launcher on the lower dorsal. 
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