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Originally posted by Masao:
Captain Boh: Put a nice fat outline around your schematic as BX does here. It helps tie the drawing together.

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Originally posted by Irishman:
I actually prefer the original version you made. The wider nacelle-base (pardon the automobile pun) makes it seem less boxy to me.

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Irishman: Yeah for me too. That was the problem I was having with a lot of the fan proto-Mirandas I was seeing. Spreading the nacelles lends a sense of stability. A matter of personal preference I expect. I've decided to embrace my original impulse (warp?) and bear the inevitable "Wide-Load" jokes. Incidentally, that's a great trick with the deflector. I tried it out and... yeah I didn't like the oval deflector. It looked too, I dunno. It didn't fit. I've opted for shrinking it and raising the rollbar slightly.

Mars needs Women: As I mention, I did try the oval deflector, but I just couldn't get a shape I liked. Something about the three circles of the nacelles and the deflector seems..right. I am a hippie. I started thinking about your proto-Excelsior, but then my brain blew up trying to imagine where those shapes would come from in TOS. I guess I've never been an Excelsior fan. I would be curious to see someone try...

Masao: I nudged it up a bit. It does give a better weapons arc for those phasers. But I've opted for a tiny deflector in the full-size pod. It's an interesting idea, but I fear moving the bridge foreward betrays the TOS aesthetic I was going for. I'm curious to learn more of this Oberth "sensor pod". If memory serves, the Oberth was pretty symmetric. I do like me some asymmetry...

Jason: Are you talking about the shoehorn-looking thing on the aft saucer of the Constitution? I don't think it adds nearly as much visual interest (the real reason). And maybe because it's bridging up into the movies it's justified (the excuse). I promise not to light it with blue. (Unless lighting it with blue makes it look incredibly cool, in which case all bets are off.)

Captain Boh: I actually don't do the black outline in the in-progress vector version (shapes moving and changing too often and I get confused easily). I use the magic wand in Photoshop as I am putting the jpg together and just stroke the selection with 2 or 3 pixels of black.

So, er, wider IS better:


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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Fuuuuuck that notion.
That would imply that either the Excelsior took forever (unlikley considering the Federation's supposed rescources and all it's member world's briliant scientists' expertise to draw upon) to build or that the general design style of the Excelsior is really old but did not influence starship construction at all (and makimg those Excelsior class ships still in service by DS9's era that much less likley).

Silly either way.

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