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If one should want to threaten legal action in this case I'd recommend directing it at the publisher not the author since it's always best to target the one who stands to lose the most. In this case the author doesn't stand to lose all that much (assuming of course he can cough up the fine)but is otherwise free to commit the same offense again under a different pseudonym whereas the publisher stands to lose some of their good name and hence a portion of their business. Plus if one sues the publisher, the publisher is in turn likely to sue the author.
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Wow Idontlikeusernames you know alot about law, could you be my lawyer?
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This publisher seems to be an intarweb vanity press.
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quote:Originally posted by Idontlikeusernames: Ahh...... public domain and the internet, one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of copyright law is the fallacious assumption that because something is posted on the internet it is somehow placed within the public domain and therefore free for all to use (with or without acknowledgements to the original author) as they please.
That's the problem, YOU may know that the net isn't "Public Domain" but the idiots that rip you off don't. The other problems is the "It was on the Internet so it MUST be true" people.
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Well, �4 wasn't too much so I went and bought it. Not very impressive. No sources given within the listing so you have no way of knowing which ships came from where.
The last page of the PDF reads like this:
Acknowledgements
Fandom is a big place. That’s what 40 years of material inevitable brings. But there are a few, particularly helpful websites I need to mention that graciously allowed me to include their excellent material in this body of work.
www.ex-astris-scientia.org Bernd Schneider’s excellent resource of technical material includes the EAS Fleet Yards, a section of starships designed and detailed by Bernd himself. Designed using very strict guidelines that Bernd has set out “what make a good starship design”, the entire site is a resource familiar to all fans with internet access.
www.starfleet-museum.org Masao Okazaki’s website detailing the early vessels of Starfleet and the Federation, the incredible vessels here are designed are all of special historical importance to the Fleet. Again, like Bernd’s site, the starships Masao has designed follow logical design rules and are also considered by most fans as the ‘real’ early history of the Federation.
Besides these two excellent sites, many other related sites were of special help when compiling this listing. And while some have drifted off into internet history, others still remain as valuable technical resources and sources of entertainment. These include, but are not limited to:
So if your designs appear on any of those sites, its prbably in there.
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quote:Originally posted by A. Moron: Websites I need to mention that graciously allowed me to include their excellent material in this body of work.
www.starfleet-museum.org Masao Okazaki’s website detailing the early vessels of Starfleet and the Federation, the incredible vessels here are designed are all of special historical importance to the Fleet. Again, like Bernd’s site, the starships Masao has designed follow logical design rules and are also considered by most fans as the ‘real’ early history of the Federation.
quote:Originally posted by Masao: Who the hell is this guy?
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This from the automatic e-mail I got when I purchased:
I just wanted to pass along my thanks for purchasing the StarFleet Registry. The list contained within was compiled over a long period of time, and was mostly a personal project. I only decided to publish on LuLu when I realized how easy it would be to make myself a professional-looking book from my efforts. The illustrations for the book were done in Adobe Illustrator, and were almost as time-consuming as compiling the list. Again, thank you for your purchase, and I hope you enjoy the book.
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Maybe I've been reading the wrong threads lately, but I haven't seen you in a while, Steve. When I saw "Identity Crisis" listed as the poster, a stupid little nostalgic "gee, nice to see one of the old crowd from r.a.s.t" grin spread over my face. I've got to run right now, but more on all this when I get home from church.
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Okay... I admit I'm pulling from every Trek source I can find for my �ber-chronology of the Federation Starfleet, but I wouldn't dream of publishing anything without express permission from anyone whose design(s) or idea(s) I incorporate into my Big Picture�. And that seems only appropriate. I am often amazed at how my view of fleet structure and nomenclature has shifted over the years, due almost entirely to the people I've talked, argued, and -- occasionally -- fought with over the matter. Rick and Mike, Andy, Shane, Todd and David, the other David, Bernd, Spike, Chris, Steve, Timo... The list of acknowledgements is a long one. All of you guys have forced me to continually re-examine my assumptions, and occasionally overturn them.
And jackals like this guy seriously honk me off. I wonder if he even realises what he's done. Bad enough to use material without permission, but to then acknowledge the sites he stole from? Seems almost like a challenge to me. I mean an old-fashioned, slap-across-the-face-and-throw-down-the-gauntlet challenge. And this ignoramus probably doesn't even know he's done it...
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quote:Originally posted by Identity Crisis: This from the automatic e-mail I got when I purchased:
I just wanted to pass along my thanks for purchasing the StarFleet Registry. The list contained within was compiled over a long period of time, and was mostly a personal project. I only decided to publish on LuLu when I realized how easy it would be to make myself a professional-looking book from my efforts. The illustrations for the book were done in Adobe Illustrator, and were almost as time-consuming as compiling the list. Again, thank you for your purchase, and I hope you enjoy the book.
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Well that's just telling fibs. I can see my Surak schematic right there on the cover.
A more accurate statement would be that the "illustrations" were TRACED in Adobe Illustrator. I use Paint Shop Pro (still), I think Masao uses Macromedia Freehand & I'm pretty sure Bernd uses iGrafx Designer.
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Funnily enough, the link on Shik's first post now leads to an almost blank page, except for the words 'Item not available'.
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Well. Looks like he got skunked.
Good.
One thing to do freeware, another thing entirely to make money.
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