quote:The curvature of the top and bottom part of the saucer section looks more like how the refit-versions curve - not how the E-Nil TOS looks (if that's the era/style you were going for - or maybe something inbetween?)
Oh yes baby thats right! Look here!
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It just occure dto me that top pylon thingy looks like the pylon thingy that connects to the Pod on the Nebula class. One more thing: It looks like a retro TNG ship. 23rd century ships did not have that nacelle thingy between the bussard collector and the general cycliner nacelle.
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Anyway, Lobo, do you plan to make other views of the second version with the pylons coming directly from the saucer? I like that one in particular. The first one's nacelles seem too close for my tastes. The second design reminds me of the Centuar.
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Yeah, my mistake. Though in my opinion I think the nacelle should at least have the Enterprise's nacelle seeing that the Miranda class has the Connie refit's or even the Constellation class with half it chopped off.
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This is the movie era refit version. The ship will have an little secundary hull.
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Hmm yeah maybe...then is it an proto Miranda class starship.
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Sorry to nitpick, but there's something bugging me about both these schematics. On the side views of both the ships, the rearward slope of the primary hull's upper mound is shown complete, rather than having it's upper part covered by the bridge mound. The rearward slope is the same as the frontward slope and seems to suggest that the bridge is as thick as a sheet of paper. Nice schematics, other than that.
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Do you mean the first pic of the topic or the newest(movie era refit version)? I must say the bridge on the refit version is not soo exactly. And your critic is more as welcome:).
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If you look directly under the bridge, the top of the mound of the primary hull is complete at both its front and back. The back should be covered slightly by the bridge, since the bridge extends down the rear slope of the mound.
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If I have understood you right, then do you mean this. But i think is looks similar to the constituition class bridge. or i am wrong?
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Sure, it looks similar, but it's not the same. The main difference is that your bridge extends much further down and back from the center of the mound than does the Consitution bridge.
Try this. Take a bowl and flip it over. This is like the primary hull mound. Take your left hand, and place it where the brige would be, mostly on the bottom of the bowl but partly down the slope to the left. Now, can you see the entire edge of the bottom of the bowl? No, you can't, because your hand, the bridge, is covering part of the edge towards the left, which represents the back of the ship.
That's exactly the same as in your drawing. From the side view, the back/top edge of the primary hull mound should be partially covered by the bridge. Also, the bridge module should have a curved bottom from the center of the hull to its rear bottom point, instead of going back horizontally, then having a sharp corner and downward slope.
Since I don't do 3-D computer modeling, I often use little mock-ups or look at plastic models to make sure I don't have too many mistakes like this.
Edit: I notice now that that where the top part of the bridge meets the bottom part of the bridge is also funny. On both the front and side views, the bottom part of the bridge has a curved edge where it meets the top part. That's not possible. The line where they meet should be straight horizontal. For reference, look at the Connie.
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