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Well the old Centurions did appear to be sentient, after all that one group in Razor apparently believed that the Hybrid dude was a god.
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That Guardian Hybrid still comes to my mind... specifically what he said about the Final Five and how it all repeats again. It sounds like some temporal causality loop.
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I think it's more about repeating patterns. The cycle of time is a very old concept in quite a few ancient cultures. Though off the top of my head the only example I can think of is the Mayan Baktun calender.
As for the old Centurions, of course they were sapient, they were the ones rebelling after all. Plus there's a deleted scene where (ironically, in retrospect) Tigh relates a war story about how he was on a ship boarded by Centurions and remarks something to the effect that the way the fought, betrayed just how much they hated humanity. In retrospect perhaps the memory is a vestige of him being one of those very Centurions.
It dose help to account where all of his self hate comes from, even before he grooved on Bob Dylan.
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No, that scene was Adama describing to Tigh the last time that Galactica got boarded (in the first war, that is). That was where they split up and went to auxiliary fire control and secondary damage control stations.
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quote:Originally posted by Reverend: As for the old Centurions, of course they were sapient, they were the ones rebelling after all. Plus there's a deleted scene where (ironically, in retrospect) Tigh relates a war story about how he was on a ship boarded by Centurions and remarks something to the effect that the way the fought, betrayed just how much they hated humanity. In retrospect perhaps the memory is a vestige of him being one of those very Centurions.
I thought they carried on this theme quite well with the TOS centurion that Adama skydived with in the Razor web-episodes (I'm not saying webisodes!). I know some people thought the design didn't live up to the original, but I liked the way it had a bit of a "frown". To me, they really did look like they had a hatred for humanity, and I immediately thought back to Tigh's description.
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Here's an idea: What if the Final Cylon is a character from the New Caprica series? The plot of the new show does revolve around a father who "resurrects" his dead daughter by building a robot with her memories.
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quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: Here's an idea: What if the Final Cylon is a character from the New Caprica series?
It's possible they might do that, but I think it would be an enormous cheat if they do! Ron Moore has said that he has left hints as to the identity of the final Cylon and I think it has to be someone from the series, known to the viewers since early on, for the payoff to be worth it.
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I agree. And it's what bugs me, because I feel like I should have spotted these hints.
It just feels like the revelation of the FC chould be this major thing, but there aren't any major characters it can possibly be. Various pronouncements have indicated that it's not Adama snr., Roslin or Thrace, nor anyone in the Last Supper image. I don't think it's Ellen Tigh anymore (after this week's ep anyway). My shortlist (in no particular order) runs: Cain, Seelix, Lee Adama, Dualla. And, yes, I'm aware it makes no sense.
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Zak Adama? I mean it is POSSIBLE the last cylon is dead. As it stands it's a huge fluke that the four of them escaped the colonies at all (or is it!?!?!?) Anders especially since if it weren't for Kara he'd be dead for sure. We really don't know where Tory came from, I just assumed she was on Colonial one all along and if so, she's just as lucky to be there as they nearly got themselves nuked in the mini. The fact that Saul and Galen were serving on the same ship is a little bothersome...unless the CO picked him from bunch of candidates, but then what did Tyrol do to be assigned to an old bucket like Galactica? Maybe a sense of engineering nostalgia casued him to ask for reassignment...still there have been circumstances beyond their control in which any one or all of them could have died so odds are one of the five is dead. Perhaps it ties in with the reason the five somehow exist "between life and death".
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I've been wondering if the final five aren't incorporeal. Maybe the fabulous four haven't always been Cylons. Maybe they've just become... possessed. It would explain a lot, like how they would have survived and ended up where they are, and how they can apparently be older than the Cylons themselves. It would also fit well with the Harveys, making Harvey Six potentially the final cylon.
Time travel is also a possibility. Perhaps "all this has happened before" is a bit more literal than we expect. But somehow that wouldn't seem to fit with BSG's more realistic approach to sci-fi.
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So, yeah, was James Callis on wires during his militant nonviolence thing? Because it sure looked like it, but people seem to be pretty evenly divided about that scene, re Magical Intervention vs. Fight Club Climax.
Also Tyrol's public freakout was pretty brutal.
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