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Mark Nguyen: "...some guy named Tom Bombadil..."
Um, judging by your wording, have you even read the books? If not, why do you care?
Anyway, to answer your question, here are two splendid guides, the first about "Fellowship of the Ring", the other about "The Two Towers", highlighting the major differences between the corresponding book and movie, in a neat list.
They are quite fun to read and very thorough, though I of course recommend you read the books instead, it gives you the details in a more chronological and relevant form.
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While I'm not proud to be the only person in my group of friends that hasn't read the book, it's still an interesting distinction. It's also on my books to read list. Eventually. After anime. Yeah. Anyway, thanks for answering my quesitons.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: How can you read anime?
Subitles, silly. And don't get me started on the whole sub vs. dub thing, if you know what that is - that's a whole other forum right there.
Okay, I've read over the links Nim sent. Now I *want* to read the books, so I can get the books' picture and see what the Tolkien puritans are telling me...
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Conversely, criticizing the movies doesn't make one a Tolkien puritan, refusing to read any other books or watch any other movies than Tolkien's makes you a puritan.
So it would actually be in a "puritan"'s best interests to support the movies and what they've done for Tolkien, most of the Elite-Fan wannabes just haven't figured this out yet. In ten years they will, maybe.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: I believe the Mouth of Sauron stuff was filmed, anyway.
I haven't seen the movie yet.
Explain this scene to me: it sounds cool and I never read the book. Some kind of middle-earth Loqutus?
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"...refusing to read any other books or watch any other movies than Tolkien's makes you a puritan."
Actually, that just makes you a nutcase. Not that there is much difference between the two... B)
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quote: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Sol System: I believe the Mouth of Sauron stuff was filmed, anyway.
I haven't seen the movie yet. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain this scene to me: it sounds cool and I never read the book. Some kind of middle-earth Loqutus?
The Mouth of Sauron was explained to be a "Black Numenorean" or one of the kin of Aragorn's ancestors who went over to the dark side as it where. When the combined armies march on Mordor, they are confronted by the Mouth at the gates of the Morannon which lead into Mordor. The MOS produces the mithril coat that Frodo was wearing and taken from him by the Orcs at Cirith Ungol in an attempt to demoralize the good guys right before releasing about a billion orcs & their cohorts for the battle.
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I missed not having the Mouth as well, he was cast too I believe. I think he was the pilot guy from Mad Max, reall tall and gangly looking guy, he was perfect. I'm sure we'll see something in the extended edition.
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I somehow envisioned a giant pair of those chattering teeth noveltys.
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The film did have problems in pacing, but not just at the end. Most of their part of TTT was concerned with Frodo and Sam travelling to Mordor with Gollum, and finally reaching Shelob's Lair; by moving the encounter with Shelob to the middle of ROTK that left us with MORE travelling with Gollum, but with Frodo acting increasingly wimpish. It got annoying after a while.
There are a few loose ends which, while it's easy to say "Oh, they'll be tied up in the Extended DVD" did detract from the film as well. No Saruman - I wonder if he'll be seen chucking the Palantir out the window, I hated the idea of it just being found the way it was; no Mouth of Sauron - Aragorn's suicidal charge and the cry "For Frodo!" makes more sense if the MoS had just told them he was dead; and I'm totally clueless as to Elrond's motives: why tell Aragorn that Arwen's dying? To make him kill himself by travelling the Paths of the Dead? I know it was either Elrond or Galadriel who sent him a message in the book suggesting he use that route, but that was just useful advice; was Elrond trying to encourage him to go that way by making him think he had nothing to lose?
We took my parents to see it, and towards the end I did see my wife and my mum surreptitiously taking out hankies for a little sniffle. 8)
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