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Bones McCoy
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Well. We know that Obi-Wan and Yoda don't die, but join the force. when this happens, they just disappear, leaving no physical trace behind. So, when Anakin/Vader, dies, Anakin still joins the force, yet he leaves his body behind. I'm just wondering how this works. Any thoughts out there?

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Malnurtured Snay
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His body always could have vanished after the camera cut away, then Luke just torched the suit.

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Aban Rune
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That's what I've always assumed happened. The suit is empty when Luke torches it. The camera cuts away before the fade away as a dramatic thing so we don't really know until the end when he appears with Yoda and Obi Wan that he's been "redeemed".

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Bones McCoy
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I thought that too, but Luke still carries the 'suit' back to the shuttle as if there were some real weight in it.... either that, or Vader was a lot more machine than I thought....

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Jason Abbadon
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Mabye the less whining you do in life, the faster your body vanishes.

That would explain why Vader's body weighed soooo much.

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In the Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon didn't vanish. And I got the impression that his cremation was part of Jedi tradition. None of the Jedi killed on Geonosis in Episode II disappeared either. This seems to suggest that whether or not a Jedi disappears after his death is dependent on the circumstances.

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Nim
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Well it would've been incredibly cheapening to have jedi after jedi disappearing in yelping gusts of smoke in a damn stadium, they were wise to leave that out.

Re: Vader's postponed/slow Force merger: He did have a high midichlorian count, even higher than Master Yoda. Maybe for the Force it was like digesting a pound of beef jerky in your bowels instead of some spam. Become interested in that.

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Sol System
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Maybe it isn't cremation, but ritual cannibalism.
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Jason Abbadon
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Mabye the more midichloreans you have, the faster they decompose you.
Vaders' mechanical parts just acted as an antibacterial agent after he died, preventing the little microbes from feasting.

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Aban Rune
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I'm guessing that disappearing/joining the Force is something Anakin learns from Palpatine as part of his efforts to learn how to keep people from dying. Somehow Yoda and Kenobi get their hands on this teaching as well. It would therefore be something unknown to the Jedi before Episode 3.

In the novels, Palpatine is also able to manage this and eventually moves into a new cloned body of himself.

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Wes
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Anakin most likely learns of this the same way that Qui-Gon did, post-death.
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