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In Episode 2, we see that Shmi's grave is right next to another grave a little ways from the Lars homstead. I've always assumed that this is the grave of Kleig's first wife, Owen's mother. Is their any EU stuff on who's grave it is?
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Yah, I was kind of wondering that myself. I'm curious, though, if the angles from ANH are such that we might plausibly not see them. I suppose they could've been swept over by sand, but the area around the homestead seems fairly flat.
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Also, why just two graves? Is the farm brand new? Or did Cleig follow corpse-disposal practices that differed from those of the previous farmer generations?
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The absence of older graves in both episodes 2 and 4 would seem to imply that graves or gravemarkers tend to be removed after some time. It occurs to me that moisture farmers would likely make use of some equipment like the Fremen in Dune, to extract water from corpses.
"Okay, he's gone, now let's dig her back up and dessicate her..."
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On the Star Wars site in the EU section under Cliegg Lars, it mentions that he moved off world to one of the core planets and married. His wife died and he moved back to Tatooine. So it's possible that Cliegg is the first owner of the homestead. It could also be his parents', who are also mentioned to have been moisture farmers.
The entry doesn't say whether his first wife was buried on Tatooine, though. It seems to imply that she died before they got back.
It's possible that the markers were removed after Luke was delivered in an attempt to erase any record of the past connected at all to Anakin. They probably wouldn't really want Luke asking who's buried there.
"Oh... that was my father's second wife... she and her son were slaves here until he went off and... became... a Jedi."
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Except if that was the case, there would be a "Lars Family Pet Ooglarooloo" action figure, along with a "Lars Family Pet Ooglarooloo with Saddle and Owen Lars in Riding Gear" variant.
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quote:Originally posted by Lee: Yes, because heaven forbid Luke should find out that his father had a mother, who would in fact be his grandmother.
Well, it would bring up the notion that luke's dad was Jesus or whatever, so it was probably best to leave the kid in the dark. Not that uncle Owen would really know anything about Anakin's origins- Shimi probably did not speak much of that time she got knocked up by microbes.
As to graves- it's the desert- there are probably sand storms re-shaping things all the time. It's why they live below ground, dontcha know?
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Well, how would the lack of a grave raise any ominous questions? Surely "your grandfather isn't buried here" suffices to totally derail any.
Followed, if necessary by "how the hell should I know where he's buried?"
More worrisome is how Luke avoided space googling his last name and finding out he shared it with a famous Jedi who was Palpatine's best friend. How did the rise of Darth Vader get spun, anyway? I suppose the brave Skywalker may have been killed by his traitorous companions. But how exactly do you make Darth Vader out to be a worthy replacement? I mean, if the Jedi were in power for so long, shouldn't their take on the Sith be the mainstream one, and that connection be one the Emperor would want to downplay? I guess it depends on how well known Vader is.
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The Jedi seem to have been fairly secretive about their own methods and members- it probably added to their influence if rumors about their power were the norm.
The Emperor coud have erased all public information on the Jedi...or just arrested anyone asking too many questions about them. Word would have gotten around pretty quick that wise people dont talk about the Jedi.
I doubt many people put Vader together with the Jedi at all....Vader would have been just another evil crony of Palpaltines by the time of ANH.
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Now that's strange, I was thinking about this thread in the shower this morning, and one of the questions I had was concerned with knowledge of Luke's origins - but not while still on Tatooine, after.
We know that a certain time period separates ANH and TESB. During this time Luke Skywalker's name and fame obviously spread quite far. He's one of the poster boys of the Rebellion. And there seems to be no doubt in Palpatine's and Vader's minds that this Skywalker is the son of that Skywalker. But never mind what the Imperial leadership know or guess, what about people in the Alliance?
For a long time the Senate continued to function despite the presence of a ruling Emperor. But in fact what wasn't public knowledge was that most of the Senate was under the control of the Emperor, probably by Sith mind-control means. The Rebel Alliance then become a kind of bunch of conspiracy theorists, as it were, but they're the poeple who know what's really going on. So wouldn't Anakin Skywalker's betrayal of the Jedi be reasonably common knowledge within the Alliance? And we also know he was called Lord/Darth Vader even before he got the biomechanical togs.
So these people would know those facts. They wouldn't know about the existence of a son (or daughter) since only three people (and one droid; Mrs. Organa needn't have known the origin of her foster-daughter; the medical droids could have had their memories wiped at the same time as C-3PO) knew Amidala lived long enough to give birth. But then along comes adult Luke with a princess and a bunch of plans, and becomes a hero. So we're expected to believe not one of those Rebels put two and two together, hearing of Luke being the son of the Great Jedi Pilot, Hero of the Clone Wars, Anakin S., and thought to themselves "But he's. . ." And then didn't mention it to their closest associates, their cell leaders, the Rebel leadership or Luke himself?
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