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Diane
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...(or is it a curse?) between Episode 1 and Star Trek: the Motion Picture.

Think about it. Episode 1 had great special effects. TMP had great special fx (for its time?), and lots of it. Episode 1 had a weak plot, bad dialogues, AND bad acting. The same could be said for TMP except maybe the dialogue and acting. Both had an ten-year-or-more hiatus of the franchise, leaving fans begging for more. Both were successes despite the disappointment because of the hungry fans. But I doubt Lucas will get kicked out of the producer's chair.

Maybe the even-numbered movie will be better.

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What do you mean, "a weak plot, bad dialogues, and bad acting"?! I disagree vehemently! In ten years it will be regarded as one of the best films of all time.

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Elim Garak
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Bad dialogue! Okay, some. Weak plot? Not really.

Bad acting?!?! What?

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Diane
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Er...I thought there were enough other threads in here talking about how bad the movie was, so I didn't explain it further (Refer to RW's thread).

Elim: Jake Lloyd. Liam Neeson is a good actor, just not in this movie. You can probably count the number of his emotional phases with one hand.

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Lloyd was playing this cute little kid. What did you expect? Same with Neeson...he played a Jedi Master. His character is comparable to Obi-Wan Kenobi's in ANH.

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RB: "'Get a life' is a phrase heard a lot, though I have never known exactly what kind was implied. Seems a lot of shallowness and greed is the rule."
CS: "I guess that it means the kind of life led by the characters of 'Dawson's Creek' or 'The Simpsons'."


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AndrewR
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Tora, I think you may have hit onto something there.

Star Wars - episode 4 - the favourite. STAR TREK IV - the Favourite

ESB - the dud - STAR TREK V - the Dud

ROJ - probably one of the best - at least bloody good. STAR TREK VI - the same

TPM - TMP!!!!! what is THAT! look look. heh heh - as well as what you said.

so expect Eps 2 and 3 - to run into each other - and both be bloody cool.

also look at the syllables

The - Mot - ion - pic- ture
The - Phant - om - men - ace

The Voyage Home
A New Hope

The - Em - pire - Strikes - Back
The - Fin - al - Fron - Tier

Un - dis - cov - ered - count - ry
Re - turn - of - the - Jed - i

I think there's something in that for all of us... don't you.

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Elim Garak
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Since when was The Empire Strikes Back the dud of the Star Wars family? I'm quite sure most people prefer that to at least one other of the first three movies.

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I agree...ESB has the advantage of being in the middle, so it draws upon the previous story but doesn't have to conclude anything. To many people, it's easily the best.

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RB: "'Get a life' is a phrase heard a lot, though I have never known exactly what kind was implied. Seems a lot of shallowness and greed is the rule."
CS: "I guess that it means the kind of life led by the characters of 'Dawson's Creek' or 'The Simpsons'."


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Diane
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I have seen many cute little kids who are better actors than Jake Lloyd. Examples: Naomi Wildman, kid who plays Young Tarzan, young Jake Sisko.

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Elim Garak
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True. Scarlett Pomers is a rather good actress, particularly in comparison with most kid actors out there.

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*Rolls eyes*
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sorry Jedi Weyoun, I have to agree Scarlett Pommers great actress.

well ESB - is a 'dud' for me - i doesn't really do anything SPECIAL - where as so far ANH - was the first
Jedi - was the last and TPM was the first prequel.

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Sol System
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If, in ten years, The Phantom Menace is hailed by a majority of the public as the best movie of all time, I will slit my wrists.

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*L* Andrew--i wasn't referring to that post. just this thread in general. rather nitpicky. actually, if scarlet pommers is the one who played amidala and padme, then i agree, she was a very good actress. i think she's very pretty too, once you get all that horrid makeup off her.

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Sol System
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No, no! Pomers is the actress who plays Naomi Wildman on Voyager.

Amidala was played by Natalie Portman. Sheesh.

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