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I was wondering if anyone has ever actually measured the volume of these two classes? I was thinking it could be done if one had the scale models and were willing to submerse them in water. Has anyone done this?
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incredibly ironic because i was just considering this question this morning as i walked up the hill to school (its a big hill, good for tech-think)
I think that Sternbach or Probert established the 1701-D had eight times the internal volume as the 1701-no suffix. They probably have a more exact figure on hand somewhere since they designed the thing. My guess is that the Sovereign has about half the internal volume of the galaxy, but thats just from eyeballing it
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At TrekBBS a few weeks ago, Alex Rosenzweig was answering questions about Starship Spotter, and I asked him how he reconciled the displacements of TOS ships with those of TNG and later ships. Anyways, I thought that EntD couldn't possibly weight 4.5 million tons, but I calculated the volume (with 8th grade geometry and calculator) and came up with 6.3 million cubic meters. The weight and the overall density (weight per unit volume) are consistent with those of TOS ships, if we assume stronger and lighter materials.
TOS Enterprise had a volume of about 200,000 cubic meters (my calculations), so Ent D had a volume 31 times greater.
I also calculated Voyager's volume as 620,000 cubic meters.
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Voyager has a mass of 700,000 metric tonnes, according to one of the episodes (I forget which, it's in the Encyclopedia).
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I'd estimate that the E-E is no more than 2/3 the volume of the E-D. Also, there's the cutaway poster which gives the ship's mass, at somewhere around 3,500,000 tons.
I've got an AMT model of the E-E, and recently dug out an old same-scale model of the E-D, and I was quite surprised how much smaller it is.
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The mass of Voyager was mentioned in a first or second season ep already by Neelix while standing in the mess hall, IIRC. Rick Sternbach accepted this figure, but said it was closer to 750,000 tons (in his opinion?).
Aren't there any cheap and tiny models of these ships around? Something like the Micromachine versions, keychains, whatever? One would also have an easier job of finding a big enough container to fill with water. It really is an experiment that should be done, because if a ship length is unquestionable, the volume is unquestionable as well. And knowing the volume of a ship can provide us with many interesting answers.
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Don't know about this, haven't got any physical models. But one thing I do know is the Intrepid Class mass is 700,000 metric tonnes, and the Galaxy Class is 4.96 Million metric tonnes.
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From an old Star Trek Mag - ". . . 42 decks with a minimum headroom of 8 feet and a raw deck space of 12,750,000 square feet, of which 67,320,000 cubit feet is people-accessible".
That help?
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Speaking of ship sizes, which ship is the largest in terms of volume? We know the Galaxy is larger than the E-E, but what about a Nebula class? The only thing I can think of that the Nebula misses is in the neck of the Galaxy, but what if you add in the pod?
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Voyager's weight was first given as 1.5 million tons (I think), then quickly revised down to 700,000. If EntD has a volume of 6.3 million m^3 and weighs 4.5 million tons or so, Voyager should weigh around 450,000 tons.
I'd guess the estimate of EntD having 8 times the volume of TOS Ent comes from EntD being twice as long: 2^3 = 8. Of course, Ent D is much wider and bulkier than TOS Ent, so that estimate is way off.
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It was 1.5 million tons in the Voyager Technical Guide 1.0 (first season writers' tech guide by Rick Sternbach and Mike Okuda), but not in the show, where it's always been 700,000 tons as far as I know. The Magazine and Fact Files mistakenly adopted the 1.5 megaton mass, which Rick Sternbach had rejected. He went with 750,000 tons on startrek.expertforum.ricksternbach.
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Now I know that weight and volume do not go hand in hand, but when I weighed my scale models of the Nebula and the Galaxy, the Nebbie weighed in at about 115% of the Galaxy's weight.
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