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[QUOTE]Originally posted by RW: [QB] The current provinces of South and North Holland, or, in Dutch terms, Zuid- and Noord-Holland, are roughly the area formerly called Holland. This was the richest of the 7 provinces united, (I believe, but history isn't as important here as in the US) in 1579 (union of Utrecht against the Spanish) and it is from Holland the merchant ships sailed and innocent people were oppressed in colonies, a practice which didn't stop until 1975 with the independence of Suriname. (yes, we still have the antilles but at least we don't extort them anymore) (Currently there are 12 provinces, one of which is completely artificial) The Dutch refer to themselves as Nederlander (plural Nederlanders) and to The Netherlands as Nederland. The language is called Nederlands. Holland is used mainly on trucks and containers and such (the poor people in Panama or something wouldn't know where the ship that says "Nederland" comes from :]) and it's also used sentimentally, or in a flippant way. Only rarely is Nederland called by the plural name "de Nederlanden" (this is mostly done in official documents, like on passports, and in titles like "Beatrix, koningin der Nederlanden" which, of course, means "Beatrix, queen of the Netherlands) And no, Beatrix is not at all a common name here, before you ask. But neither is my name. Or my last name, which is very rare indeed (if I meet another Warrink, I can be dead certain he's related to me) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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