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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on July 19, 1999 04:46 PM:

I couldn't help but see what was up with this site so I went to read up on the subject...and found that... well.. This site is just plain awesome! You can use all the tactics to get out of conversations you'd rather not be in.....

Conversational Terrorism

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on July 19, 1999 05:04 PM:

"I agree with everything you said except the conclusion. It doesn't make any sense to me, and I can not accept it. I am trying, but your brain must work much differently than mine."

*L!*

I LIKE this site!

Fortunately, though I am not fully familiar with terms such as "Ad Hominem", I am familiar with the principles behind them. I love raising the "BS flag" when people start spouting spurious logic such as this.

--Baloo

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on July 19, 1999 06:34 PM:

Ad Hominem: "Attack the Man"... an [illogical] debating tactic where instead of criticising your opponent's arguments, you attack your opponent due to other unrelated reasons (ie, personal insults).

*never realized his term studying logic would be useful*

Wait till I tell you about Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc

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-Ira Stephen Behr on the Moore fiasco

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on July 19, 1999 08:33 PM:

Ah...ow...argh...

Memories of...Philosophy 120...

Ad populum...that was a fun one.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on July 20, 1999 02:11 PM:

In other words, when someone responds to your statements by yelling "Fascist!" or "Gun Nut!" or "Satanist!" or (Insert the racial/ethnic/sexual epithet of your choice), he/she/it is using an Ad Hominem argument.

F'r instance: "First of Two prefers punishing the naughty to passing unnecessary laws that will weaken the nice! He's a right-wing crackpot!" is an Ad-Hominem argument, one that will get you laughed at by me.

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on July 20, 1999 04:51 PM:

...And by me.

Laughter works better in groups.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on July 20, 1999 05:37 PM:

Well, ad hominem remarks aren't completely useless. Once you've determined that your opponent has no comprehension whatsoever of the concept of logic, a real arguement really has no point. Might as well try to make them look stupid even to their illogical sympathizers... :-)

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on July 21, 1999 01:07 AM:

Are not!

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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on July 21, 1999 05:17 AM:

�

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mine to give........ "
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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on July 21, 1999 07:32 AM:

I'd respond, but I don't think you would understand.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on July 21, 1999 08:24 AM:

Comprehension is not required in context. Just look at every second post here!

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on July 21, 1999 08:25 AM:

Would too! (watched "Hot Shots" last night)

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Posted by RW (Member # 27) on July 22, 1999 01:08 AM:

What are you talking about ad hominem, you lying shit??!

(It's a joke people, like the phrase "don't swear god damnit!" before you think I'm in a mood again. Well, I am in a mood, but I'm trying to be nice)

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on July 22, 1999 10:49 AM:

*LOL*

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