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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> <br /><small>Member # 5</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,14,0,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 14, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:20 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Found this in The Straight Dope archive.<P><a href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/980612.html" target=_blank><B>"Does the head remain briefly conscious after decapitation?"</B></A><P><center><img src="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/Bunny2.gif"></center><P>------------------<BR>My mind wanders, but don't worry. It's weak and can't get very far.<BR>--Steve Allen<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/" TARGET=_blank>www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/</A> <P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,14,0,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 14, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:31 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, there's something I could have done without...<P>Anyway, even if the thing at the beginning about blinking were true, it's possible he could have started blinking before decapitation, and continued afterwards w/o consciousness. Like the way a chicken's body continues to move after the head is removed.<P>------------------<BR>"It'd be a pity if every pencil on Earth suddenly collapsed in on itself and blew everything up."<BR>-Krenim, TNO chat, September 30, 1999 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>RW</b> <br /><small>Member # 27</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,14,5,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 14, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:30 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <BR>Further reading:<P> <A HREF="http://www.logp.dk/guillotine/Pages/30sec.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.logp.dk/guillotine/Pages/30sec.html</A> <P>Excellent site on the guillotine BTW. And I say that without suicidal tendencies Lee. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Kosh</b> <br /><small>Member # 167</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,14,9,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 14, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:39 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> People usually pass out within five seconds of haveing their oxygen cut off, and I can't think of a better way to cut off oxygen!!!<P>------------------<BR><B>"One Tequila, Two Tequila, Three Tequila, Floor". George Carlin </B><P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Feste</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,14,15,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 14, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:10 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Perhaps he was just winking and flirting. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>RW</b> <br /><small>Member # 27</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,14,15,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 14, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:21 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <BR>I mean, like, did you know guillotines had a splatter screen? <P>(dig that man!) :] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,1,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:22 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Oh, these are nothing. I know of a site dedicated to one woman's fetish regarding the guillotine. I'll see if I can find the link.<P>------------------<BR>"Quadrilateral I was, now I warp like a smile."<BR>--<BR>Soul Coughing <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>deadcujo</b> <br /><small>Member # 13</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,2,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:05 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Have any of you read the book "If we could keep a severed head alive..."? <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR>The Unknown Vulcan<BR> <A HREF="http://www.phix-it.com/~perseus/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.phix-it.com/~perseus/</A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Diane</b> <br /><small>Member # 53</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,2,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:55 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Deadcujo: Whoa, that just reminded me of those heads kept alive in jars from Futurama.<P>Kosh: "People usually pass out within five seconds of haveing their oxygen cut off, and I can't think of a better way to cut off oxygen!!!"<P>What do you mean? Certainly people can hold their breathes longer than that.<P>------------------<BR>--Then, said Cranly, do you not intend to become a protestant?<BR>--I said that I had lost the faith, Stephen answered, but not that I had lost self-respect. What kind of liberation would that be to forsake an absurdity which is logical and coherent and to embrace one which is illogical and incoherent?<P>James Joyce, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>deadcujo</b> <br /><small>Member # 13</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,3,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:38 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I really doubt someone would try to hold their breath<BR>after getting their head chopped off. They'd be too<BR>frightened and stuff. For anyone who really wants to<BR>know more about severed heads, I really suggest that<BR>book <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR>The Unknown Vulcan<BR> <A HREF="http://www.phix-it.com/~perseus/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.phix-it.com/~perseus/</A><P><BR><p>[This message has been edited by DeadCujo (edited October 15, 1999).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> <br /><small>Member # 5</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,8,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:40 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> When you hold your breath, your blood is still circulating. Oxygenated blood is still travelling to and from your (not empty) lungs, scavenging whatever oxygen is left from the air inside them. That's why CPR works, even though the breath you breathe into a victim comes from your lungs. There's still a lot oxygen left.<P>Your blood hasn't always given up all the oxygen in it by the time it returns to your heart for recirculation either, especially if you are lying still. I can see where the sudden cessation of circulation might cause more rapid loss of consciousness than simply holding one's breath.<P>Despite what you may imagine, the quick severing of the neck and spine caused by the guillotine blade is not the immediate, or even primary cause of death. The complete lack of freshly-oxygenated blood reaching the brain is what does the trick. A person would tend to lose consciousness very rapidly, though there would, of course, be considerable variation from one individual to the next.<P><center> <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/JOL.gif"> </center><P>"I gotta get a head!"<P><OL>--The Headless Horseman</OL><P>------------------<BR>My mind wanders, but don't worry. It's weak and can't get very far.<BR>--Steve Allen<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/" TARGET=_blank>www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/</A> <P><p>[This message has been edited by Baloo (edited October 15, 1999).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> <br /><small>Member # 35</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,9,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:01 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, yes, but the sheer shock and trauma of the amputation would probably cause immediate loss of consciousness, thereby making the question moot.<P>------------------<BR>Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You don't stare at it. It's too risky. You get a sense of it and then you look away! - Jerry Seinfeld<P><BR><A HREF="http://wwww/leenet.demon.co.uk/phaser/" TARGET=_blank>Starfleet Weapons & Tactics</A><P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>RW</b> <br /><small>Member # 27</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,10,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:59 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <BR>And it's a pretty neat cut too. In medieval times, I don't think the axe always landed on your neck..rather..higher? Nice thoughts for a friday afternoon. i'm twisted. Rowl! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Kosh</b> <br /><small>Member # 167</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,11,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:47 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> And the spine would go first, so no sensation. <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"> Grewsome, but humain!! Gotta love it.<P>------------------<BR><B>"One Tequila, Two Tequila, Three Tequila, Floor". George Carlin </B><P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>RW</b> <br /><small>Member # 27</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,15,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:55 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <BR>Oh, before anyone forgets:<P>THIS WILL NOT TURN INTO A DEATH PENALTY THREAD! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Omega</b> <br /><small>Member # 91</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,16,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:11 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> IIRC, you were lucky if you got decapitated in one stroke. It sometimes took three or four.<P>------------------<BR>"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That "all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people . . ." To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition."<BR> - Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1791 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,19,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:33 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I wonder, how do you determine when the person is dead? When their head dies, when their body dies, or both?<P>------------------<BR>"It'd be a pity if every pencil on Earth suddenly collapsed in on itself and blew everything up."<BR>-Krenim, TNO chat, September 30, 1999 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> <br /><small>Member # 5</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,20,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:24 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Actually, I suppose death comes when enough of one or the other sustains enough damage to render it nonfunctional. If your brain dies, the body will likely soon follow. Likewise, the body will not last long without extensive intervention if the brain takes a hike.<P>Actually, I'll bet the guillotine isn't painless. It's just that you'd only feel the incision along your neck. I would guess that the nerves which send pain signals to the brain attach <I>above</I> the point where the neck would be severed.<P>On the other hand, I once knew a friend who was a Vietnam vet who had been shot once or twice during his tour. He said that he didn't feel any pain for a few minutes. He knew he'd been hit, but his adrenal glands must've gone into overdrive.<P>My personal theory (bolstered by wee-hours collisions betwixt my toes and furniture) is that when an injury occurs, it can take several seconds before the sensation registers as pain. It's as if the nerves are saying:<P><blockquote>"Uh-oh! This is bad! Somebody's gotta tell the brain about this!"<P>"Oh, no, <I>I</I> ain't telling the brain! <I>You</I> tell the brain!"<P>"Not me!"<P>"Well, somebody's gotta do it!"<P>"Tell ya what. We'll tell the brain on the count of three."<P>"Okay, I'll count: One, Two..."<P>"Wait! Wait! Just how bad is it?"<P>"I dunno, but the eyes just had a look. We'd better say something now!"</blockquote><P>And so forth.<P>Actually, the Guillotine was, if not invented, then at least perfected by French physician Joseph-Ignace Guillotin. He developed and tested (on cadavers) a "machine" that would be, in the opinion of the medical community at that time (1792) a more humane form of execution than the methods currently being employed.<P>Here's a link to a site that gives a bit more detail:<P><A HREF="http://www.cecut.org.mx/GALERIA/tortura/guillot.htm" target=_blank>The guillotine</A>.<P>--Baloo<P>------------------<BR>My mind wanders, but don't worry. It's weak and can't get very far.<BR>--Steve Allen<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/" TARGET=_blank>www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/</A> <P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Omega</b> <br /><small>Member # 91</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,22,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:09 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> DeadCujo:<P>Of course they wouldn't try to hold their breath after their head was chopped off. They'd have nothing to hold it in!<P>------------------<BR>"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That "all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people . . ." To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition."<BR> - Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1791 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>deadcujo</b> <br /><small>Member # 13</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,23,0,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:00 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I just meant they wouldn't have time to even think about it <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR>The Unknown Vulcan<BR> <A HREF="http://www.phix-it.com/~perseus/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.phix-it.com/~perseus/</A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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