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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Make up your own mind:

http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stifgnusa01007.html

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well, if Dr. Turok: Dinosaur Hunter supports it, I'm all for it.

Actually I read in a credible science-magazine months ago that lightspeed had been exceeded.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Well, bugger me. Actually on second thought, don't!

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

Cool! It's about time someone discovered something to knock the physicists out of their "We know practically everything" attitude. The modern physics will now have to find a new "theory of everything" to replace Einstein's theorems, just as Einstein's theorems superceded Isaac Newton's laws.

Even if this doesn't lead to warp drive, it could lead to subspace radio (or at least, even faster computers than we have today).

~~Baloo

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Weird. Actually, I think Einstein did account for faster-than-light travel...I don't remember the details, though.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Actually, I read about this a couple days ago (I think the link was on Slashdot). Apparently, it wasn't that the light wave itself moved ahead at 300c. It was that the information about the wave preceded the wave itself. The cesium gas (or whatever it was, exactly) created a copy of the wave, which went out of the chamber. The creation of this copy then cancelled out the incoming wave when it arrived (borrowed energy, and all that).

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Relativity says nothing about not going faster than light. It's as simple as pie.

It does, however, forbid travel AT the speed of light. Unfortunately for us, but luckily for causality, we've yet to discover a way to go from 0 to 60 without going 55, as it were.

And Einstein hardly suspended Newton's laws. He merely added to them. F still equals MA, as any projectile will be willing to explain to you should you stand in front of it.

This actually raises a larger question that's been floating around inside my head for awhile, but I'm still unsure how to share it without sounding completely nonsensical. Moreso than usual, that is.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Try us.

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Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :

Yeah, I'm game....bring it on Simon.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

It's hardly a question, really. Recently some friends and I have debated about the universe and how much of it can really be understood. While I don't necessarily believe it, I've been taking on the role of devil's advocate and claiming that there are real limits to what we can know. (All without reading "The End of Science" by that one guy, who didn't write "The End of History" but did come up with an amazingly similar title.)

There's more to it, but my mind slowly melts and all I can remember right now are the lyrics to this song by M Doughty.

"All my limbs are sticks and lines, my head's a point upon my spine. I can't get no quadrilateral, I can't say half empty or half full now."

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Doesn't modern physics already accept the possibility (albeit until now theoretical only) of objects/particles that travel faster than light?

Isn't that what tachyons are supposed to be, objects that can't slow down BELOW the speed of light?

Could this be our first indication of...dare I say it...subspace?

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Er, no.

Tachyons have nothing to do with subspace (which is an entirely fictional concept with no grounds in real science, just a convenient plot device).