So there is that downside.OK, my vote would go to Gore.
(Statistics after 1 vote: Gore 100%; Bush 0%)
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ALPHA CENTAURI
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United Federation of Planets
"A dedication motto? What about it?" - Alpha Centauri
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Operator of the Goulag Hotel, maintainer of the workhouses.
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"Woman is deprived of rights from lack of education, and the lack of education results from the absence of rights. We must not forget that the subjection of women is so complete, and dates from such distant ages, that we are often unwilling to recognize the gulf that separates them from us."
Tolstoy, on a more objective note.
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"It's like the Star of David or something. But without the whole Judaism thing."
-Frank Gerratana, 17-Aug-2000
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"More beer, more beer, more beer, more beer! ARSE!"
- Ode to God.
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Creator of Project Phoenix
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Jean Poutine of course.
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"What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad."
- Dave Barry
What, I'm not of legal to age to vote OR run for president?
Damn.
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"The things hollow--it goes on forever--and--oh my God!--it's full of stars!" -David Bowman's last transmission back to Earth, 2001: A Space Odyssey
See, he's like a rural fellow, so he can bond with the midwestern farm folk...you know, hodowns and corn schucking...all that sort of thing.
But our Sol is a bright intellectual fellow too. He can talk philosophy...not that there is any real day to day value in philosophy...but it makes him sound smart. And apparently all you really need to be a well known policico is to sound smart...and Sol "I Dig Dead Squirrels Out of Farm Pipes Whilst Discussing Plato" System can certainly sound smart!!
Sol "I Don't Do It Unless I Have To" System is a procrastinator as well. So, in speeches where he sounds smart, he can make vague promises about the price of wing-nuts and not actually do anything about it during his term in office!
And he writes poetry! Well some of his work is good and some is...well...But Hey, that can be an asset too!! Consider that Lincoln wrote speeches with a very poetic tilt...we could save money on speech writers. And we could save on clothes...afterall, he only wears black.
But he might have the courage to fund some real space exploration done during his time as president and certainly one would imagine Star Trek would become a national TV program funded by PBS...at least he would form a presidental commission to determine the length of the Defiant or some such cannon nonsense. So there is that downside.
So, vote Sol "I Don't Want To Be President...I Just Want Chicks To Dig Me" System for President...and make They Might Be Giants the National Band!!!!
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Oh, fiddle faddle, everyone knows that our mutants have flippers. Oops, I've said too much.....
~C. Montgomery Burns
If given the chance though, I'd shove both of them in a quantum torp case and fire the damn thing towards the sun and nominate Timo for president.
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So why don't we make a little room in my BMW babe
Searching for some peace of mind
Hey I'll help you find it
I do believe that we are practicing the same religion
- from the song "Fastlove"
quote:
Jean Poutine
Isn't that the name for french fries with gravy in Canada or am I just an ugly American?
Gore must not become president. Bush would put The Bill and Hillary Show to an end for sure, but I'd bet Gore would let it go on ...
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-Small Computer Systems Interface "Scuzzy" Emperor
Operator of the Goulag Hotel, maintainer of the workhouses.
Operator of Cargill Conglomerate Publications, http://www.cargillconglomerate.com
"Woman is deprived of rights from lack of education, and the lack of education results from the absence of rights. We must not forget that the subjection of women is so complete, and dates from such distant ages, that we are often unwilling to recognize the gulf that separates them from us."
Tolstoy, on a more objective note.
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Intelligence, Integrity, Responsibility.
Vote Bush/Cheney 2000
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"We have HTML and images in sigs disabled here. Don't try it. If you do, I'll shove the image up your ass, then ban you. Have a nice day. :)"
-Charles Capps, August 13, 2000
Michael:
Why would you like the fact that democrats have increased minimum wage? This is not a good thing. It's just that the democrats and the media act like it's just so darned obvious that it IS, that everyone assumes so. Every single increase in the minimum wage in history has increased unemployment. They have eliminated entry-level jobs for teenagers. They have had no notable positive side-effects. Minimum wage increases are simply a bad thing, and a point AGAINST the Democrats.
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
- George Bernard Shaw
*runs away in panic with everyone chasing after*
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Teddy Roosevelt: "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
Yosemite Sam: "Well, I speak loudly and I carry a bigger stick...and I use it too!"
Let's look at the numbers...
According to the Department of Labor, in 1999 10.1 million people hourly workers made between $5.15 and $6.14 and hour.
69% of those workers were adults (20 and over)
60% women
45% full-time
33% were partents of children under 18
The current minimum wage is 5.15 hr.
So for those 45% who work full time, before taxes they would make a grand:
$41.20 a day
$206 a week
$10,712 a year
My that's lavish.
Now, let's say that we lived in Los Angeles...
You need shelter. Go find an appartment, if you could one in a an area where you didn't get robbed, killed, raped, whatever in LA for:
$500 a month = $6000 a year
You gots to have food, so you eat light, say $50 a week = $2,600
You have to drive your car into the dynamic wealth producing areas, cause you sure as heck can't live there...say $20 a week on gas...that comes to $1040.
Ok, we're already at $9640 of your before taxes $10,712.
You don't have a computer (too expensive, so you can't learn new skills easily), you have no uplifting entertainment (too expensive, so you watch Springer on the TV...that learns ya real well), you don't go to school (too expensive and too little time after working 40 hours a week...and your second job cause you had to pay for new tires on you car that blew out on the road), I hope you have car insurance in California, very bad if you don't...
Meanwhile the dynamic wealth producing Americans, who have to have someone's back to break to do the labor are what, yachting?
You bet the minimum wage is a point against the Republicrats, they should be fighting for a Living Wage.
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~C. Montgomery Burns
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In short, it could perhaps be the ultimate demonstration of Dubya's raw stupidity caught on videotape. It was so bloody funny my English teacher taped it and showed it to our class.
My vote would be with Gore. Bush is a conservative whose decisions are driven by ideology and special interests groups alone. On the other hand, Gore, stick up ass and all, does have a brain and does exercise it in making his decisions.
And he can open his eyes when he speaks, which is a plus.
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"...I was just up in Canada, Toronto actually. You know, they really hate you guys [Americans] up there? The funny thing is, they think you hate them back, when in fact, you just couldn't be bothered to care. Now in Ireland, it's a different story. At least we had the common decency to wait until the English invaded before we started hating them. I guess the Canadians are hating you in advance..."
-Irish Comic Ed Byrne on Canada-US relations
What you may mistakenly think about Bush's lack of intelligence is your problem. His ideas work. Gore's don't. And Gore lies about it, on top of that.
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
- George Bernard Shaw
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"And on a wholly unrelated note, I went to high school with Fidel Castro. So there." - Simon Sizer
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Oh, fiddle faddle, everyone knows that our mutants have flippers. Oops, I've said too much.....
~C. Montgomery Burns
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Oh, fiddle faddle, everyone knows that our mutants have flippers. Oops, I've said too much.....
~C. Montgomery Burns
"Gee, I guess we should just want people to work for free. That way the owner gets to keep everything! Yeah!!"
Well, this is going to consign this thread to the fires of... oh, you know, that forum below this one? But frankly, I don't care. It was on its way there, anyway, and I will not stand for someone twisting my words, especially when it's based on nothing more than liberal lies told when trying to demonize the Republican party.
*ahem*
I never said this. I never said anything like this. I never even remotely indicated that I might believe this, at least not in the eyes of any rational person. If you think I or ANYONE else believes this, Jay, then you are a complete imbecile.
"...it's all far game ladies and gentlefolk. And you can thank the Clinton haters for it."
Again, you are a blithering imbecile, Jay. The only thing that conservatives have conserned themselves with in this campaign are the things that matter: character and issues. What Gore may or may not have done in the past is irrelevant, short of criminal activity, or anything that calls his stance on issues or his character into question. It's you liberals that want to dig up every little thing that someone may have done. I challenge you to give me ONE example. Just ONE.
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
- George Bernard Shaw
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I'm sorry, but he's an idiot. Need we bring up Dubya's SAT scores?
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"...I was just up in Canada, Toronto actually. You know, they really hate you guys [Americans] up there? The funny thing is, they think you hate them back, when in fact, you just couldn't be bothered to care. Now in Ireland, it's a different story. At least we had the common decency to wait until the English invaded before we started hating them. I guess the Canadians are hating you in advance..."
-Irish Comic Ed Byrne on Canada-US relations
[This message has been edited by The_Tom (edited August 21, 2000).]
Is it? I mean, sure, it's useful to know, but I wouldn't say it's a key issue until Canada does something to bring itself to attention.
"I'm sorry, but he's an idiot. Need we bring up Dubya's SAT scores?"
IIRC, they weren't spectacular, but certainly above average. Then again, mine were higher. Should I be a presidential candidate too?
In the meantime, I think this is Flameboard material.
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