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Posted by Xentrick (Member # 64) on :
 
from The Times, 29 September

Piercing led to woman's death

BY SIMON DE BRUXELLES

A CORONER gave warning yesterday of the "considerable risks" of bodypiercing after recording a verdict of misadventure on a woman who died after her 118th piercing.

The inquest on Lesley Hovvells, 39, in her home town of Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, heard that she collapsed last New Year's Eve, and died of septicaemia in January. Miss Hovvells had 28 ear studs, 13 ear rings, 11 belly bars through her navel, 18 other bars, six lip rings, 36 body rings all over her body and six nose studs. She is believed to have had over 40 piercings in the year before her death.

A professional bodypiercer, Ronald Hewitt, told the inquest that Miss Hovvells had become a regular customer "but she began to cause me concern. If the skin is broken and not kept clean infection can occur. I didn't think she was looking after the piercings and so I refused to carry out any more. If people who have piercings are not extremely careful and look after their hygiene they are in danger." Mr Hewitt, 53, told the hearing he was qualified with the National Association of Bodypiercers. Miss Hovvells had then gone to a different bodypiercer.

Dr Lesley Murray, the consultant pathologist, said that Miss Hovvells had died of an overwhelming infection which led to cardiac arrest. She said: "There is little doubt that neglected hygiene of her body-piercings was responsible for introducing toxins and bacteria into the blood." The cause of death was septicaemia and bacteria in the bloodstream. Miss Hovvells also had hepatitis C which may have been a contributory factor.


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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"National Association of Bodypiercers"?! I'm sorry, but I'd like to leave the planet now. When does the next starship leave?

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
 
Ma-ha! I'm sorry, death is a terrible thing. *snicker* Ma-ha-ha.

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
mmmmm, allowing ones self to be stabbed to death during the course of an entire year.

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :
 
bad way to go.....

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Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
 
stupid way to go

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
ouch..... okay......

disgusting...... not a better word to describe this...... ugh.

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :
 
That's just weird.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Double-piercing on the ears is okay. Navel rings are cute. But anymore than that... Yuck.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Any of it is disgusting. Earrings (one on each side) I can tolerate, only from so much exposure over time. But, aside from that, looking at unnatural holes poked through someone's body makes me rather ill...

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :
 
Me and my g/f were talking about this last night.
A few ear rings and belly rings are fine, but when you start piercing your eye brows, lips, nose, other anatomy, it gets too odd for our tastes.

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Posted by SCSImperium (Member # 397) on :
 
I never got piercing. I can get the girl with earrings; that's ancient. But not the full body piercings.

Along with those people who can bend their joints in odd dirrections; I can't stand it. They're just as bad as the "I pierce, tattoo, drink, smoke, and sniff" crowd ... "No, I don't want to see you twist you leg around your back or align you fingers on the back of your hand ..."

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
People think my hands are weird because my fingers bend back until they're about ninety degrees to my palm. I never had any idea that was unusual until... oh, probably less than a year ago... :-)

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
"36 body rings all over her body." For which read "yeah, we're talking clit and labia rings here."
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Of course, if it was the Sun, they would not only have mentioned the clit piercings, they'd have had a topless lady on the same page. Possible even with piercings too.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
 
I need to move me to England.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
As for me, I only approve of body modification rituals that are condoned by society at large.

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Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
 
Have you guys heard of these new body modifications where they implant small plastic pieces in their body to add lumps and such where they want. They showed this guy on MSNBC (I think) that had lumps in his head, all sorts of green tattoos, and even had his toungh split down the middle. All to make him look more like a lizzard. There are some weird people out there.

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :
 
That's idiocy. Surgery just to look different. What I wouldn't mind, though, is a genetic code enhancing virus. Theoretically, you could make any cosmetic alterations you wanted, not to mention improved health, poison ducts under nails, built in knuckle-dusters, klingon forehead... ok, maybe that's going a bit far.

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Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :
 
I'd like a two-meter long fully flexible tail with a spikey club of bone at the end, that I could swing and flex and coil at will. And wreak havoc with, naturally.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
What, you haven't got one? Loser...

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
Well, I've already discussed my thoughts on this subject in another thread. Like bright warning markings on poisonous insects tell smart birds to stay away, Massive body modifications on humans tell smart potential MATES to stay away.

Still...

If I could get the full Wolverine treatment...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
You want to be plotted by Rob Liefeld? And you're calling body piercing sick?

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
 
Yeah, but the WildCATS would occasionally drop in. And maybe Wildstorm, Wildman, Youngblood, Youngstrike, YoungCATS, CATSblood, Wildblood, Wildgopher, Younggopher, StrikeStrike, Wildstrike, YoungYoung, BloodyYoungStrike, StrikeyYoungBloody, BloodCats, WildChicken, StriketrikeStrikeyoung, bloodman, bloddygrifterstrike, and perhaps Deadpool. And Cable.

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Posted by Xentrick (Member # 64) on :
 
"Let's create the ultimate super group! The Fantastic 40!" MST3k

 
Posted by RW (Member # 27) on :
 

We had a similar story over here too. Girl has tongue pierced and loses two litres of blood. That's TWO litres. Didn't die though. Anyone else seen that guy with spikes sticking out of his skull? And only yesterday I saw someone on TV who had his tongue split down the middle to look like a reptile. That was about the grossest thing I've ever seen that was done on purpose. Ack.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Robbie's not that bad. You could be plotted by post-1994 John Byrne. (Don't worry Brucie, nasty old John's gone away, and nice Mr Jenkins will look after you know. He's much nicer. Even if he seems desperate to use all of the characters he writes in Sentry. But that's okay, cause the art's neat. Even if it doesn't tie into other current storylines. And Read's looking a bit thin these days. I hope he's eating okay).

Brrr...Bryne...

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Sorry, First, but from what I've gathered lurking round here these past couple months, isn't your "you'll get my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers" T-Shirt protective coloration enough?
 
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
 
And me, thinking it was GOOD idea to get that 7o9 occular thingy over my eyebrow...

D'oh!!!!

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
Actually, it says: "You can HAVE my gun... assuming you can make it past the land mines."

To be honest, the only gun I own is a .22 rifle I use to kill carpenter bees. I'm SUCH a threat to public safety. It's my father whos the collector.

Bladed weapons. That's where REAL men go.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
No worries mate.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
A rifle... For bees...

*slowly shakes his head and walks off*

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
Dude, I'm not talking about using an M-16 with full-metal-jacketed rounds, here. It's a .22 rimfire. One step up from a friggin' BB gun.

I use .22 birdshot. Have you ever used it? It's not really effective on birds, but it works well on large insects. In fact, that's probably the ONLY thing you could kill with it.

Usually I only ever shoot at the bees I can't reach with a flyswatter. Since they nest in roof eaves, and those are usually higher than my arms' reach...

Swatting them, however, is much better on your cardiovascular system. Like a batter trying to bat a ball that changes speed and direction randomly, and can hover for a moment before changing course.

It's fun. Especially when they get mad.

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :
 
I'd never heard of using shot in a rifle. Sounds like a larf, though, shooting bees with a rifle.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
There's very little difference in size, caliber-wise, between a .22 bullet and a 5.56mm M-16 round. How big is a carpenter bee?

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
Oh, roughly as big as the average man's index finger from the nail to the first knuckle. Excluding wingspan.

I said shot, not bullet.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, an M16 bullet goes WAY faster than a standard rifle bullet. Speed's a lot more important than caliber, if you're trying to kill someone. Sure, the higher caliber makes you bleed more, but the speed gives more kinetic energy. As kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2, with twice the speed, you get four times the energy. Since the human body is composed mainly of water, and that's not compressible, if you absorb that much kinetic energy, it's gonna set up a nice little shockwave in your body. Bye-bye, higher brain functions.

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :
 
In what form do you get the shot? Are there special shot cartridges for rifles?

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
The shot comes in .22 cartridges, made up just like regular bullets, except with a perforating nose.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
A shotgun cartidge for rifles eh. interesting. What does it do to the bees?

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Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :
 
Tickles them gamely between their abdomen and thorax, I'd imagine.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
It takes them on a little trip.

*dramatic pause*

To another dimension!

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
Generally, it kills them, the same way as shot from a shotgun would kill a bird or small mammal, through multiple small shot penetrations. Just on a smaller scale, coz it's birdshot and bees.

Sometimes, though, at close range, it vaporizes them.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Noooo. It doesn't kill them. We can't have children learning that tearing great big holes in living things kills them. It might warp their fragile little minds.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Yeah no reset button for these little bastards.

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