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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :

I was wondering who will win the US president elections today? Personally, i think it will be George W Bush.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Jaresh Inyo

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

I think my feeling are quite clear =)

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Jeff is right. I am hoping for full Democratic control of the Administration and Congress. Of course, if I am wrong in my decesion, ad the country falls apart, then I will benefit also.

Actually, with the lines of work I am in, I win no matter which one wins. Hey, this is a nice feeling.....

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

I'd be happy with just the White House ...

What line of work are you in, Ritten?

Hitman?
Government Black Ops?

The only thing that would effect me (financially) is the tax cut ... but I pay so little taxes to begin with, whats an extra two or three dollars a week?

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Gore/Lieberman 2000
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"You're history!" - MacLeod
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"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush

[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited November 07, 2000).]

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

I am in the Rent-to-Own during the days, so a poor economy will allow the owner of the chain I work for to expand, as people won't be able to pay for things, being unemployed and all. A store in Lapeer or Bad Axe would probably be mine, giving be a pay raise and bigger bonuses.

A booming economy will increase the income of my gfs web design and hosting company, which I dop most of the work for, but since my divorce sin't final I have it in her name. Although I do more PC repair and upgrades than anything else these days.
I also work with another guy in doing home remodeling, so if people can spend more

A so-so economy will not change anything, I will still be comfortable. So any change will be good.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Bush leads in all major polls except MSNBC's "Zagvi" (sp?), and in some is ahead by as much as 9-10 points.

If Bush wins and keeps his promise, I will pay no taxes. If Gore wins, my taxes will stay the same or increase.

If I had the money now that I pay on Federal Income Tax each year, I could afford to rent an apartment for myself and Julia.

Bush.

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

Its spelled "Zogby"

And guess what? The Voter.com polls do internal polling for both Gore and Bush... And they're more accurate than the publicly released ones cuz the campaigns pay more for the accuracy.

Word is both the internal polling for Bush and Gore show Bush with almost 300 electoral votes.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

232 is not "almost 300", Jeff

And Voter.Com is also saying its too close to tell.

How much do you pay in tax? I mean, a one-bedroom apartment around here runs for about $700 alone (no utilities), so maybe the question is, how much do you make?

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Gore/Lieberman 2000
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"You still don't understand, do you MacLeod? I am the End of Time!" - Kronos

"You're history!" - MacLeod
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"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush

[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited November 07, 2000).]

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Dang, JeffK, where the hell do you hail from again? Here we have a 3 bedroom house for $575.00, for $8,000.00 down and $600.00 a month you can buy a house on a 10 year land contract.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Zogby hasn't been all that accurate lately. Seven point swings destroy credibility.

Under any circumstances, the two polls that called the '96 election right are Battleground, from the Terrance Group, and Portrait of America, by Rasmussen Research. The rest had Clinton ahead by 20 points, when he won by six. PoA has Bush up by nine points. The internal polling has Bush ahead in California, Florida, and Michigan.

This election is Bush's.

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

Although I'm not American, I still hope for Gore to win, though I think Bush will be the winner.
I just don't like Bush all that much. He seems to be one heck of a conservatist and he's also quite nationalistic and he is *the* archetypical NRA-"It's the hand on the trigger that kills"-American-Redneck sort of guy..

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

When I was in the Army my 9mm never killed anybody, I watched it for years.

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

I was going to post some stuff in response to Omegas other comments in the Liberalism thread. But since the election is here, my points are probably moot.

I'd like to see Bush maintain a stable social security net with all his Tax Cuts, but I remain skeptical.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

I could rent a small apartment for between $250-350 a month. Remember, I live in an economically depressed area, so rent's lower, too. In fact, I could probably rent my grandmother's house from my parents for as much or less, if it wasn't for the fact that I'd be living with Julia. Oh, well.

If I paid zero Federal Income taxes, I would have a bit over $2000 extra at the end of the year, or enough for around 10 months of rent. I could come up with the other 2 months, simply by not eating out for lunch and dinner, like I usually do, and perhaps not subscribing to as many comic books.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

In an ideal world, that guy who played the cop on "Die Hard" & "Family Matters" should be the president. But, because the USA is so densely populated with people who are dense, they'll vote Bush. Damn second ammendment.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Reginald VelJohnson? Heh...

I wasted my vote. I WAS planning to write in Ambassador Duke, but on my walk over to Rogers Park, I started thinking that, while having Hunter S. Thompson as President would be MONDO fun, I still intend to habitate in this nation for a little while longer.

Being that I couldn't really feel anything grand for any of the candidates available to me, I decided to write in someone who I know a grand job: John Sheridan.

What the fuck. He's gonna be president ANYway...

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

I intend to go home, change clothes, and wear my favorite T-shirt to vote in...

"Chthulhu for President!! Why choose the lesser evil?"

But I'm still going to vote Bush, if only to annoy certain people here.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

No matter who wins, I'll still give yanks a hard time. But I'll have more of an excuse to do so, if Bush wins.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

Stockwell Day, all the way! (hey, that ryhmes...

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

How would Bush alone have the power to eliminate anyone's income tax?

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

If stupid people voted, they'd vote for Gore.

If this election is decided by smart people, then Gore doesn't stand a chance.

"All stupid people are liberals, because they don't know any better." - R. Rhodehorst

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Now, now, Jeff. You're getting a little flamey with that comment.

The majority of liberals aren't stupid. A reasonable-sized chunk, yes, but not the majority, by any means. Most are simply ignorant.

Then you've got the 1% or so that are actual socialists, which are a combination of both...

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Well, coming from my parent's home-cooked dinner, I heard on AM radio (NPR? I'm not sure) that Bush was ahead ... by *.1* ... it was something like 43.5% Bush, 43.4% Gore ...

Earlier in the day (a few hours before polls closed), another AM station reported that Maryland's voter turnout was estimated at 80% ... now, obviously, this number isn't final, but -- wow! 80%?! That's great, considering usually only 50% of registered voters actually vote.

Anyway, Maryland is Gore's.

JeffR: Call me stupid if you want. You're the one throwing your lot in with the same party that got David Duke elected in '89.

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"You're history!" - MacLeod
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"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

According to Voter.Com, Gore got Florida ...

Ain't it sad that his own brother's state didn't support him?

What does the leave, Pennsylvannia and Michigan as the "Big Three"?

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"You still don't understand, do you MacLeod? I am the End of Time!" - Kronos

"You're history!" - MacLeod
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"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Scratch that, Gore got Michigan too. Only Pennsylvannia remains ...

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"You still don't understand, do you MacLeod? I am the End of Time!" - Kronos

"You're history!" - MacLeod
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"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

The question is who will win the election, not who should win the election, how stupid anyone could possibly be for disagreeing with me because I am YHWH himself descended upon the planet here to wage my bloody vengence upon my children, or why group X should all be sent to work camps.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

YHWH?

Your Holy Whole Honor? I dunno.

I'm off to GWU to celebrate Gore's victory with some friends! Until late tommorow, adieu!

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Gore/Lieberman 2000
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"You still don't understand, do you MacLeod? I am the End of Time!" - Kronos

"You're history!" - MacLeod
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"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

If you add in vowels to YHWH, you can get "Yahoo Wahoo"

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Man, this is too close to call. Each TV station has different counts for electoral votes, so I have no clue who is really leading...

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Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :

It would seem, according to CNN at least that Gore took Florida and Pennsylvania.

Open Duh-bya's shirt and plant stake over place where the heart should be (since conservatives don't have a heart)...now it's just a matter of waiting for the hammer to hit it.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

YHWH - Yahweh

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

Jeff Kardde, I didn't call you stupid at all, nor did I call liberals stupid.

If you noticed, I just said "stupid people are liberals."

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Yeah, there are no vowels in ancient Hebrew, except O. Thus what's pronounced "Yaweh" is YHWH.

As for the votes, someone jumped the gun. Bush is ahead in Florida, and Michigan, and pretty darned close in PA.

Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Yep, Florida is now too close to call, but all the stations are still calling Michigan a Gore state (yet ABCNews.com says Bush is killing Gore in Michigan). New Mexico was also called a Gore state, but Bush is only behind by 1% now. It's 217 - 173 in the electoral votes now, Bush winning.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

YHWH. You'd think God would've named himself something cool, like Dylan or Zak. YHWH. What kinda leader is that?

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

OK, I just added up the electoral votes for myself.

I made a list of all the states Bush had in the bag, all the states Gore had definitely won, and the tossups. Even WITHOUT Florida, Michigan, and California, all of which Bush is winning in at this point, Bush still has over 270 electoral votes.

It's his.

Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

OK, there are now 5 states left:
Florida (25 votes)
Oregon (7 votes)
Nevada (4 votes)
Iowa (7 votes)
Wisconsin (11 votes)

It is currently TIED at 242 electoral votes a piece. If one candidate gets Florida, the other candidate MUST get Oredon, Iowa, and Wisconsin to TIE the election again at 267 electoral votes a piece. It will then come down to the final 4 electoral votes from Nevada to push one candidate to 271!

This is DAMNED close! Bush only leads the popular vote by .7% (less then 600,000 votes, which 71% of precents reporting in)

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Don't forget the military votes and the other people who must and still need to vote. It's 50/50 right now!!!

Damn this thing is too close. Will the next president be a homophobic moron or a homophobic liar? Hmm, either way, I'm screwed...

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Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :

Then again, AP wires report the Florida vote may change as the Broward County votes are counted...as of 3:10 am.

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

Stockwell Day, all the way! (hey, that ryhmes... )

I have another quart of Chocolate Milk here....

The majority of liberals aren't stupid. A reasonable-sized chunk, yes, but not the majority, by any means. Most are simply ignorant.

Fine. The Majority of Liberals are ignorant to the wishes of most of the upper class. The Majority of Conservatives are ignorant to the cries of most of the lower class and virtually all of the bottom-of-the-barrel people.

You wanna typecast Liberals? Fine, so be it. At least that's what I've noticed here in Ontario.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Wow. Who'd ever have thought that people shouting out statistics and figures could be so much fun?

It's like maths on crack!

Or not...

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

I don't think that anyone who would propose that I, a lower-class income person, pay NO Federal income tax, is ignorant of my desires. :P

Unless massive voter fraud goes on, Bush should win it.

Of course, it was awfully nice of the media to announce that Gore had taken Florida early on, so that all the people STILL VOTING in the Western part of Florida (they're on Central Time, if you didn't know) could go home.

Hey, didja know that Bill and Hillary were campaigning for her senate seat in New York by going to black churches? Isn't that against federal law?

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Going to black churches is against Federal law? How so? Is it legal to go to white churches?

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"You're history!" - MacLeod
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"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Oh boy. Stockwell Day. Yeah, we need another WASP in office. Especially a homophobe, anti-french and not to mention bible-thumping leader.

It's not like it matters, anyway. How much importance can you have with 20% of the vote. Hoop-dee.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

No, JeffKarde, it is illegal to campaign in ANY church, and it's against IRS regulations, as well.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

I was unaware of that.

Now, are you accusing the Democrats of actually WALKING into a church and campaining? Or using Democratic Preachers like Rev. Jesse Jackson to drum up support?

Because, if its not the actual candidate going in and saying, "vote for me!" I don't see how it would be illegal ...

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"You still don't understand, do you MacLeod? I am the End of Time!" - Kronos

"You're history!" - MacLeod
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"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I'm simply tired of this. Off to the Flameboard.

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