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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

Yes, this is a question about Masters and Slaves. Well sort of.

This is also a question about Primary and Secondary IDE Hard Drives. Tricked ya, huh?

Anyways, here is the situation: I just got my old computer from my parents, and a new 20 GB removable hard drive and I just tried installing it as the Primary Master. The old hard drive is now the Secondary Master, while the CD-Rom is now the Secondary slave (was Secondary Master). The CD-ROM was working before I installed the new HD, and yes, I adjusted the jumpers to say Slave, and I made sure that it was plugged in properly.

If I remove the Primary master, then the secondary master kicks in, loads up Windows 98 and recognizes the CD-ROM

If I insert the Primary master, it loads up the Win98, then the secondary master becomes the D drive, but wait, the CD-ROM is not recognized. No E Drive, nothing.

I have tried reinstalling Win 98 several times, but to no avail. Can someone help me?

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

I had a similar problem. Go to

Start-->Run...
Type in "msconfig"
Go to config.sys and look for a line that says "LASTDRIVE=D" where D could be any letter. Click on that line, and choose Edit. Change the letter to Z. Save it, and then reboot. See if that works.

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Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :

Many CD drives flat out do NOT like being secondary slave. Lastdrive is very unlikely to exist unless your system was upgraded from DOS/Win31...

Try putting both hard drives on the primary channel, then making the CD secondary master. If that fails, put the old/second hard drive as secondary master. One of those configs is likely to work.

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

A few years back we used three removable hard drives at my work. We thought they were the shit, as the technology was relatively new at the time. Within a couple months, though, they all ended up defective. I hope yours fares better.

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

What if I put my CD-ROM as the primary Slave? I need to have two masters in the event that the primary master is absent.

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Psychiatrist: "Again."

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

It was an alright Deep Purple Album/Tape......

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Why have Windows on both harddrives??? You'd have to watch them like a hawk to be sure both drives have the same resources.
Suddenly you start a program and the new drivers to this program is on the other drive.
If I would choose, I'd put Win98 and your programs on the non-removable and put the multimedia-files and documents on the removable one.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Speaking from the network administrator's perspective, one has to wonder why he needs a removable disk.

And the answer is obvious - it's for his porn collection, so his parents don't find it.

Which answers Nimrod's question, and suggests the best solution - Internal HD, Primary Master. Removable HD, Primary Slave. CD, Secondary Master.

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

Vogen Poet: This removeable Hard Drive is for School. And did you remember, I moved out a couple of months ago.

Nimrod: I was thinking of that.

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"My Name is Elmer Fudd, Millionaire. I own a Mansion and a Yacht."
Psychiatrist: "Again."

[This message has been edited by Tahna Los (edited January 17, 2001).]

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Unless you want your removable HDD to be bootable.

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Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :

Your CD as primary slave should work. SHOULD.

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"Babies are squirmy, ugly, dirty, smelly, and noisy. They'd offend all five of my senses if I had any reason to lick one..."
-- TSN, 2001.01.11 23:27, PhoenixChat

[This message has been edited by Charles Capps (edited January 17, 2001).]

Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

Wouldn't that screw up the secondary master? I mean, wouldn't the CMOS try to boot up the Primary slave first?

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"My Name is Elmer Fudd, Millionaire. I own a Mansion and a Yacht."
Psychiatrist: "Again."

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Yes, but if there is nothing there it will skip it, like the A:. My system is set up to try the A:, then the E:, then the C:. Only screws things up if I leave something in I shouldn't have.

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Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :

Standard boot order is:

- Primary Master
- Primary Slave
- Secondary Master
- Secondary Slave

Some new BIOSes can change the easily, including recognizing which devices are which (i.e. zip drives, CDs, DVDs, and HDDs)...

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-- TSN, 2001.01.11 23:27, PhoenixChat

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

My boot order is:

Right
Left

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Fasten, then zip, or vice versa?

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

I'm a southpaw, so left is foist for me.

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Here lies a toppled god,
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

-Tleilaxu Epigram

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Toilet paper over the top of the roll, or underneath from behind?

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