Basically, to sum it up, this guy is on death row because he supposedly paid some guy to kill someone. However, the killer has since admitted that he lied in order to plea bargain himself out of execution, and the guy who is on death row actually had nothing to do w/ the murder.
But he's still going to be executed, as it stands now. The courts keep denying his appeals because the killer who admitted to perjury isn't trustworthy.
Yeah, the American (in)justice system works soooo well... *rolls eyes*
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My new year's resolution is the same as last year's: 1024x768.
"No, you told the truth before, but you are now untrustworthy, even though it might get you killed."
One Country, Under God......
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"One's ethics are determined by what we do when no one is looking" Nugget
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20th century, go to sleep.
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R.E.M.
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Read chapters one and two of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet"! Show no patience, tolerance, or restraint.
Does anybody know if this is a real story, or a 'stolen kidney' story?
Does anybody know if the killer actually IS suddenly trustworthy?
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"Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ty Kwan Leap. Approach me, that you might see." -- The Master
That's how I see it, in any case.
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"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier ... just as long as I'm the dictator." - George "Dubya" Bush, Dec 18, 2000
[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited January 19, 2001).]
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My new year's resolution is the same as last year's: 1024x768.
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My new year's resolution is the same as last year's: 1024x768.
Seriously, in any case, when something like this comes along, it pretty much screams for "APPEAL!" or "NEW TRIAL!"
Because, let me tell you, getting to say, "hey, in this case, the guy whose testimony put the dude in the electric chair said he lied on the stand and you still killed the guy without giving him a re-trial! Foul!"
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"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier ... just as long as I'm the dictator." - George "Dubya" Bush, Dec 18, 2000
I was on a jury on a drug trial a while back, and we had a witness for the defense who was an admitted liar, habitual drug user, filer of false reports, and who had been intimately involved with the accused.
Needless to say, we found her testimony to be neither believable nor remotely credible.
We found the guy guilty of 3 of 4 charges, and would have convicted him of intent to sell, except one of our jurors was an idiot who couldn't understand the concept of independent thought. (In other words, we, the jurors, independently discovered damning evidence which neither the prosecution or the defense had noticed, but she wouldn't accept it as being usable.)
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"Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ty Kwan Leap. Approach me, that you might see." -- The Master
I'm trying not to be judgemental here, but what is this so-called evidence and how did you come by it? Aren't such situations meant to mean the jury has been unfairly influenced? However, since you all felt the witnesses were unconvincing, you just decided in this case it wouldn't matter too much. Thank Christ for that one juror who actually too his job seriously, I say.
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"Businesses used to be like Christianity; if you were faithful and obedient, you could obtain bliss in the afterlife of retirement. Now it's more of a reincarnation model. If the worker learns enough in his current job, he can progress to a higher level of employment elsewhere."
- Dogbert
The Prosecution is of course going to argue that the man's testimony can't be believed: he's lied before, why believe him now?
The Defense will go a different route. Yes, he's lied before. But by telling the truth now to set free an innocent man, he's exposing himself to horrid consequences, such as jail time and possible the death penalty (if he was the one who actually killed the guy). It's his conscience that's killing him now, and he wants to make sure the wrong guy doesn't go down for it.
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"Oh, yes, screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!"
-Forum Member Who Shall Be Nameless. 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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"And Mojo was hurt and I would have kissed his little boo boo but then I realized he was a BAD monkey so I KICKED HIM IN HIS FACE!"
-Bubbles
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Plagiarism saves time
Which wasn't actually meant to be a pun, but that works too!
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"Businesses used to be like Christianity; if you were faithful and obedient, you could obtain bliss in the afterlife of retirement. Now it's more of a reincarnation model. If the worker learns enough in his current job, he can progress to a higher level of employment elsewhere."
- Dogbert
And do you REALLY expect people to believe that the pun wasn't intended.
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Plagiarism saves time
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"Businesses used to be like Christianity; if you were faithful and obedient, you could obtain bliss in the afterlife of retirement. Now it's more of a reincarnation model. If the worker learns enough in his current job, he can progress to a higher level of employment elsewhere."
- Dogbert
BUT... In the jury room, we examined the sandwich bags that the drugs were in. The ones that had never been opened and 'cut' with other stuff were intact. But we noticed that the top fold-over flap (the part you stick back down into the bag to cover your sandwich, you know?) had been almost completely torn out of the bag that had been opened. It had a very jagged edge, suggesting repeated tearing of of small bits.
Now, a guy using the bag to hold his OWN stuff has no reason to do this. But a guy SELLING the stuff would be carrying the packaging with him. Sell a gram, tear off a bit of plastic, instant packaging. More you sell, more bits of the baggie become available for use as packaging.
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"My knowledge and experience far exceeds your own, by, oh, about a BILLION times!" -- Q
And why little bits? Could it not have been one LARGE piece ripped off?
You came to one conclusion, the other guy came to a different one.
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"Oh, yes, screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!"
-Forum Member Who Shall Be Nameless. 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited January 23, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited January 23, 2001).]
No, the other 'guy' didn't come to another conclusion (remind me not to have you as a witness, I said SHE when I spoke about this.). The other 'guy' didn't even LOOK at the evidence. Truthfully, I've never seen anybody so incredibly eager NOT to do ANYTHING, in my life. And she was proud of the fact that she was totally out of touch with reality -- "I don't read newspapers, watch tv, listen to the radio, or read books" -- a direct quote.
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"My knowledge and experience far exceeds your own, by, oh, about a BILLION times!" -- Q
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I looked at my son, and said, "My god, he's hung like a bear."
"That's the umbillical cord, Mr. Williams."
-Robin Williams, "A Night at the Met" 1986
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"My knowledge and experience far exceeds your own, by, oh, about a BILLION times!" -- Q
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Plagiarism saves time
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"Businesses used to be like Christianity; if you were faithful and obedient, you could obtain bliss in the afterlife of retirement. Now it's more of a reincarnation model. If the worker learns enough in his current job, he can progress to a higher level of employment elsewhere."
- Dogbert
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"And Mojo was hurt and I would have kissed his little boo boo but then I realized he was a BAD monkey so I KICKED HIM IN HIS FACE!"
-Bubbles
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Plagiarism saves time
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"Businesses used to be like Christianity; if you were faithful and obedient, you could obtain bliss in the afterlife of retirement. Now it's more of a reincarnation model. If the worker learns enough in his current job, he can progress to a higher level of employment elsewhere."
- Dogbert
Erm, no then.
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"And Mojo was hurt and I would have kissed his little boo boo but then I realized he was a BAD monkey so I KICKED HIM IN HIS FACE!"
-Bubbles
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"President Bush. It's fun saying that. Go ahead, you try." - M. Lucinsky, Spectrum Editor
I'm here for the cake. Will there be ice cream? Must be chocolate...
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"Omae o korusu..." - Heero Yuy
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"Businesses used to be like Christianity; if you were faithful and obedient, you could obtain bliss in the afterlife of retirement. Now it's more of a reincarnation model. If the worker learns enough in his current job, he can progress to a higher level of employment elsewhere."
- Dogbert
Pity Monty, our ex-resident Chris Morris worshipper has returned to his Vixen.
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"And Mojo was hurt and I would have kissed his little boo boo but then I realized he was a BAD monkey so I KICKED HIM IN HIS FACE!"
-Bubbles