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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

(That's Screen Actors' Guild, BTW)

What is going on with this? What's it about? Is it actually happening now, or is it going to happen, because everywhere I go on the web to read on upcoming TV shows or films, it's "may be delayed because of the strike this" or "unwilling to commit until the strike is resolved that."

However, it does seem to me they have a funny idea about what a strike is. It's meant to be disruptive! Instead they plan it months in advance, and no-one signs to do any work during the period. How is this meant to make the studios capitulate (over pay for adverts, or something)? If a few $10 million a picture actors suddenly refused to honour pay-or-play contracts to do some film or other because of the strike, that would work. But instead they've all planned their holidays for then.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Yes, but the problem is, they can't make ANYTHING during that time frame ... no new movies, no new TV shows, etc.

Frankly, I hope it'll be a good thing. Let's get some new actors into Hollywood ... I'm sick and tired of people who want to be paid $12 million for a film and not $10 ...

Basicly, what it means is this:

Studios are rushing to make movies right now, so that they've got something to release during the strike. If the strike gets resolved, no worries, they'll be able to keep making films. If the strike doesn't get resolved, they won't have any actors to make films with and Blockbuster's New Release wall won't be updated for awhile.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

What I know about this strike is that it has pushed the release date of Star Trek X back to early 2002 (it had previously been Fall 2001), and could even push Star Trek: Series V back half a season or more as well (since writers are going on strike as well)

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

A break between the end of "VOY" and the start of "BOTF" isn't neccessarily a bad thing ...

Anyway, it'll be hard to get actors to fill in during the strike because, presumably, those "scab" actors would then not be allowed to join the SAG after the strike ends ...

Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Oh great...what the hell am I suppose to watch then when the strike happens,talk to people?

No new episodes of Will & Grace, Friends, Law And Order, the Practice, Sex and the City, Queer As Folk...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Barnes & Noble???

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Barnes & Noble isn't a TV SHOW!!!

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

True, but he can read about them...... LOL

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

The strike isn't about actors making millions of dollars per picture. Originally, it wasn't about those sorts of actors at all. This started as a disagreement between commercial actors and commercial, uh, makers. ("My God, my head! Thank you, Proxynofalethaline!") It has since grown, as all these actors belong to same union.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

I should point out, Michael, that

1/ Queer As Folk is a British TV show. Amasingly, we don't actually care about the SAG strike. No, we make TV shows without ANY American support. And so do other countries. Don't worry, I'm sure Bush will put a stop to this when he hears of it.

2/ Queer As Folk ended almost 2 years ago now. There are no new episodes. Sorry, but that's the breaks. (It was a good TV show, but not one that was designed to go on for years).

3/ I Am Iron Cool-Dude!

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

I'm talking about the US remake of the show by Showtime. I'm worried it would be disrupted.

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :

Oh joy! - another US remake. Cracker and Men Behaving Badly have already been screwed up, and I can see this one going the same way. You'd think the US TV networks would have realised by now that they just don't understand British humour well enough to make a remake that'll do justice to the original.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Can't even do American things right. It took Britain's Channel 4 to do a version of "Tales of the City" because US networks would only consider it if the principal gay character became straight, and his boyfriend the gynaecologist (do you know, I think that's the first time I've ever written that word) became a Serial Killer. In fact, I see "Further Tales. . ." is out soon, been 8 years since the original (and 3 since "More Tales. . .").

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :

Just out of curiosity, how does the US version of Queer as Folk compare to the British version. Our version was good because it was so controversial and deliberately set out to push back every boundary. Is your version the same, or has it been toned down for a more sensitive audience.

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[This message has been edited by Orion Syndicate (edited January 23, 2001).]

Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Queer as Folk is one of those things I never watched that people now say I should have, first time round - like The Royle Family and The League of Gentlemen. I guess I'm getting less with-it as I get older. . .

- Dogbert

Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

I think it's good, but like all US shows, there are some pitfalls. But I haven't watched the UK version yet since I'm waiting for my DVD... Over here in Los Angeles, it has mixed reviews, mainly from the people who saw the original before and the people who first watched the US version. People who watched the original say it can't beat the original, which is most likely true since nothing beats an original.

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[This message has been edited by Michael_T (edited January 24, 2001).]

Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

I've seen snippits of Queer as Folk (UK version) and i've seen a few episodes of the US version. My take on the US version is somewhat mixed. It seems to go for more the shock value of showing gay sex and other "sortid" views of gay society as a whole. (Such as the club scene and drug usage and so on.) I think it really misses the mark in a lot of places where the UK version hit it on the head. By the way, the one character I do like on the US version is Sharon Gless's character. If we all had mom's like that...*sighs*

But anyway.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

The one time I saw it, it was quite awful. The story was essentially this:

GAY MAN #1: What shall I wear?

GAY MAN #2: I don't know! BUT I SURE AM GAY!!!!!

GAY MAN #1: Right then. Do these pants fit?

GAY MAN #2: Not now, AFTER LOOKING AT A SEXY MAN!!!!!

GAY MAN #1: Calm down. Are you okay?

GAY MAN #2: YES I AM!!! You did ask 'ARE YOU GAY', right?

GAY MAN #1: Okay, look forget it.

GAY MAN #2: DID I MENTION I'M GAY? I LIKE BUTT SEX!!!!!

GAY MAN #1: I'm gone. Goodbye.

GAY MAN #2: HMMM. SHUT I PAINT 'I'M A GAY MAN' ON MY SHIRT? Because I AM GAY!!!!!!!

GAY MAN #1 LEAVES ROOM.

GAY MAN #2: Aw...Who will start the MAN TRAIN!!! BECAUSE I'M GAY!!!!

Yes, yes, real entertaining this is. I did forget though, is Gay Man #2 gay? Did they bring attention to this at all?

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

Which version? Ours or yours, UM?

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Er, your version IS UM's version. Unless Canada gets the UK version ahead of the US one.

The UK version would be similar, but people would talk about Doctor Who inbetween the gay bits.

And they'd be some amusing spoofs of stuff.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Showcase (Canada's analagous cable channel to Showtime which was a weekly institution in Grade 12 at my boarding school ["Fridays without borders" and "The Late Revue"--wahoo!]) aired the British version last year sometime, IIRC. I dunno if they're airing the American version now...

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

How about 'Red Shoe Diaries'?

DAVID DUCHOVNEY READING PORN!!!!!!

LOPISTA!!! BITCHES!!!!!!!

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Which also featured Denise Crosby once.

Or so I hear.

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

David Duchovney was reading CORN? *rubs eyes*

Oh, PORN.

My bad.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Yeah, Denise Crosby was in it. I have vidcaps somewhere. It's a hobby of mine.

- Dogbert

Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

Getting vidcaps or getting vidcaps of Denise Crosby?

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :

Oh boy, that's conjured up images I don't want to see....

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

No, vidcaps of EVERYONE. 8)

- Dogbert

Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

Dare I ask?

*ponders it*

No, I shan't.

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