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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
 
I don't know if anyone will read this, or even care, but I just wanted to apologize for my behavior on certain occassions. A lot of the times I act like a stubborn know-it-all, and it takes a little slap in the face for me to recognize it. I've re-read several of my recent posts, and I realize I've been quite a little self-righteous snot.

So for all those that have had to deal with me on this whole dilithium/Pheonix/pre-TOS tech tirade I've been on, my thanks for your tolerance. I hope I haven't made anyone permanently pissed off at me because of my "holier-than-thou" attitude.

I try not to be so inflexible to other's ideas, but once I've got my own theory in my head, it's hard for me to accept something else. *sigh* At least I'm not a racist or something awful like that.

Anyway, thanks again for your patience. We now return to your regularly scheduled posting.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
That's good what you did, makes room for growth. I haven't observed any particular 'snottiness' from your part (I've spent very little time in the "ships&design"-secitons), but it's also a fact that some people can bring out the worst in you.

Nevertheless, it's prudent to be one's own watcher...

Many a fiery post have been written by yours truly, only to be discarded a second before the 'submit' button is pushed. The question must always remain; "Do I want to do this? -Yes. Should I?"

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I didn't notice it. Maybe I'm just used to it. *L*

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
Dan, you seem to be fitting in just fine....

The apology is accepted by me, although not really needed.....

Type long and post....

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :
 
I mostly hang out here and in the flameboard, and most people there are a lot worse than what you described, no apology needed, but if you insist it is accepted.

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
*reads*

Aw, shucks Daniel. It's OK.

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
Daniel: I've read your post responses, and I really don't see anything for you to have to apologize about. It's one thing to do something like what Darkstar did when he "returned" to Flare, or like what Red Quacker did when he purposely tried to instigate arguments between members of this board on topics that had absofuckinglutely nothing to do with Star Trek. Those sorts of posts deserve an apology, not yours.

Think of it this way. Opinions are like assholes: Everyone at this board has one. Your opinions, especially regarding Star Trek, are just as valid as the next person's.

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Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
 
And with those fine words of wisdom, on with the opinion bashing! Hehe!

(Hey Daniel, if you appear a bit aggressive or rude at when arguing your point, it just shows how strongly and pasionate you feel about what you are saying. Last I checked, there was nothing wrong with that. )
 


Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
I'm more fond of guys with passion than guys without.

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
 
You people *sniff* make me feel so loved! *burst into tears* It's so beautiful!

Okay, *sniff* I'm over that now. Thanks for the imput though, really. I guess I should lower my standards for intolerant, belligerant, snottiness than? Oh, I see it all now. I shall let my ego and intolerance grow to incredible sizes! I will dominate the world! Bwahahahaha!

No! That won't happen, I promise! After reading the "contradictions in the Bible" thread, I can see what some of you are talking about. Whooee. But some of my posts still make me feel guilty for my inability to see another's viewpoint.

My new (and first) .sig, by the way, isn't meant to insult anyone who is highly religious. It just succinctly states my own view on organized religion.

QW: I'll remember that.

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
Daniel: I'm very fond of "Contact". Both the movie and the book. And before anyone says it, Jodie Foster was PERFECT as Ellie Arroway.

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
 
I KNOW! Man did she do a good job with that role. I loved it.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Daniel, from the bottom of my heart, you're a turnip.

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
 
*wails* But I don't know what a turnip IS! Please, somebody, anybody, what are they talking about?! Do I want to BE a turnip?!

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
Now, now Daniel...*comforts him* I'll make the bad turnips go away...

*leaves & returns with SANDROCK!*
(Explosions occur)

Now then, Daniel.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Daniel,

it's a good thing. I mean, it's not like I said you were a bannana, did I?

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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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"I think this reason why girls don't do well on multiple choice tests goes all the way back to the Bible, all the way back to Genesis, Adam and Eve. God said, 'All right, Eve, multiple choice or multiple orgasms, what's it going to be?' We all know what was chosen" - Rush Limbaugh, Feb. 23, 1994.



 


Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
Or a cucumber. I have this thing for cucumbers.

Why did I say this?

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
The book Contact was awesome.

The movie Contact sucked.

Maybe they should have read the book before making it...

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Mr Garrison: *bleargh* *bleaaaaaargh* Euh that movie was horrible! And when that alien turned out to be her father...*bleeargh*

Turnip is good for you, in more ways than Wan. It's the king of root vegetables. It represents the finest life ambitions, it can penetrate the thickest, coldest crust of any soil! Makes for good schnapps material, too.
Our newest hybrid, turnip green�, is especially nutricious...

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
But. . . Turnip Green - is people!

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
The book "Contact" was awesome.

The movie "Contact" was awesome.

Maybe Tim shouldn't be so goddamn judgemental at times. *GLARE!*

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
No, the movie was totally screwed up. If they're going to write their own story, they shouldn't steal the major plot points from a perfectly good book. If you're going to use the book, use the whole book. Not just the bits you like, while changing everything else.

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
*picks this apart*

"No, the movie was totally screwed up."

Name one scene that was.

"If they're going to write their own story, they shouldn't steal the major plot points from a perfectly good book."

If i'm not mistaken, it was Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan who signed off on the whole thing.

"If you're going to use the book, use the whole book. Not just the bits you like, while changing everything else."

Again, Carl and Ann. Zemeckis just directed the thing. This is something non-film (the techie bits) don't get. YOU try adapating any novel to a screenplay and see what you wind up with. You'll wind up with a screenplay that's twice as long AS the novel. (Knows this from personal experience)

Bottom line: "Contact" = Great movie. TSN ='s HERETIC.

(This post paid for by the Holy Shrine of Arroway)

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
Wasn't it just Druyan who signed off? Wasn't Sagan already dead by this time?

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
No. If I recall corectly, Carl died during the post-production phase.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Let's see... The religious-freak guy was in the movie way too much. Arroway was the only one who went through the device, rather than the five or six that were supposed to. They made her mother dead from the beginning, when it's supposed to be only her father who dies, and her mother remarries. They don't find the message in pi at the end.

And that's just the stuff I remember offhand...

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
You know, it's not that a movie captures every little nuance in the book. Read the book LA Confidential, & then watch the movie, why don't you? It's that the movie captures the spirit of the book. You're just nitpicking. That's like my friend -- ex-navy -- who hates submarine movies because the set is a different shade of gray than the real thing.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Different shade of gray??? The entire movies are black!!! They must have terrible gashes over the body from running into levers and bolts...

Submarines practically glow from the light gray everywhere, coupled with the fluorescent lamps.
When I watch "Red Sea" (sorry, "Crimson Tide", I ran out of synonyms) I feel like I'm walking through a star destroyer! But the movie's good.

A friend and I actually laughed in "Red October" (is everyone hemoglobin-obsessed???) when my fellow turnip Stellan Skarsg�rd was giving out orders to his staff aboard the Alfa class sub.

He sat sloped over a chair, green and red lights blinking in his face to increase the drama and make him look like a scheming psychopath, smoking filterless russian cigarettes. We excpected him to storm away and rip the throat out of the chief engineer for not wanting to push the engines past 110%.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Jeff: Nitpicking would be if a word or two were missing from the dialogue and I complained. I'm talking about things they changed for no good reason.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
"YOU try adapating any novel to a screenplay and see what you wind up with. You'll wind up with a screenplay that's twice as long AS the novel. (Knows this from personal experience)."

Er, you adapt novels into major Hollywood movies now Jordan? When do you find the time?

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
Liam: No. Not exactly. I did try it tho with a few novels i'd KILL to see turned into movies. And when I was still with the P-Cola's Reader's Showcase, I did adapt a few short stories into plays. It ain't easy to do.

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