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Posted by Tora Ziyal (Member # 53) on :
 
Can anybody come up with a very common, recognizable model for a handgun circa 1970-80? It's for a story. I've looked up handgun history and stuff on the Net, but can't make heads or tails of it. Help is greatly appreciated.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Here you go.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
that looks a little too advanced for the timeframe snay..

here's a schematic my friend William drew



or you could try google, click image search and type handgun.. dozens and dozens of pics come up

[ March 05, 2002, 18:51: Message edited by: CaptainMike ]
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Not really, it's a 1911 model ...
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
it's mostly a 1911A1. that is actually a para ordnance (looks like the p13, which is the para odnance version of the colt commander). those have been made since 1988. high cap magazine with a wide body. made in canada, i believe. it should fit the bill nicely.

--jacob
 
Posted by Tora Ziyal (Member # 53) on :
 
Mal: Er...what's it called???
 
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 
Colt forty-five. Everyone knows a Colt 45.

Never leave home without one. [Big Grin]

People also seem to respond pretty well to WalterPPK, Glock (any number below 30), Berreta, Luger, and Browning (string a bunch of letters together).
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Walther P-38. Can't go wrong with Megatron, I always say. Then there's the Smith & Wesson .38 police special.
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
if i was going to carry a gun from that era, it would be a browning hi-power.

--jacob
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Amazing. D'y'know, that's exactly what I was going to suggest. . .
 
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
Personally, I prefer the Fecilator. Named as such because when the victim catches sight of it, they shit their pants.

(A gold star for anybody who can place what movie that's from) [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
Colt made a nice 357 in that time frame, and I seem to remember hearing of the "Plastic" gun from that time, that turned out to be Glock. Histroy channel rated Glock the #1 pistol of all time, at least the 9mm. Smith & Wesson made some nice pistols in that time, and Dan Wesson went solo at one point, but I think that was before the time you need. We had a Dan Wesson 45 that was very accurate.
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
the "plastic gun" from the 70's was the hk VP70, which was the first production polymer frame pistol. it was nice, but had a heavy trigger pull. in my opnion, there are plenty of individual guns that are better than any individual glock (SIG p220/226, SIG P210, HK USP, Beretta 92 Elite, Armand Swanson custom 1911 [Big Grin] , etc), but Glock certainly has the best "family" of pistols, overall.

--jacob
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
"Dogma", OnToMars. I've seen it 15 times.
 
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
quote:

the "plastic gun" from the 70's was the hk VP70,

So when was the Glock first introduced? I understand that they made dishes, or something of that nature, before going into guns.

With the History channel, I think they were refering to pistols that the police are using now.
 
Posted by Tora Ziyal (Member # 53) on :
 
Well, I ended up calling the thing a plain old revolver. I'll probably add a model name in the revision. Thanks everybody.
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
glock was founded in 1963, but they didn't start making guns until like 1983. cops used the VP70z (the z is the civilian version of the VP70 which, in military form combined with a stock/holster, is a machine pistol), but turned to other guns fairly quickly. in fact, the VP70 was one of the first double action only pistols, which are now quite popular with cops, but the expense and heavy trigger pull caused the gun to die an undeserved death. in my opinion, the history channels "history of the gun", etc, are VERY innacurate and like any 1 hour tv history program has to gloss over a lot of stuff (try comparing anything the history channel makes about hitler and the book Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, for example [Big Grin] ). i still find the shows enjoyable, but i never take them at face value

if you are going to use a revolver for the story, i would choose the colt detective special. there are a couple good photos here

--jacob

[ March 06, 2002, 13:09: Message edited by: EdipisReks ]
 
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
"History of the Gun", for those who haven't seen it, is a series of one hour programs on the history of the gun, but Ed is correct in that they move quickly, and should be taken with a grain of salt, like anything about History, in the USA.
 
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
Have the Special Addition DVD, FoT. Kevin Smith rules!

The one that's still alive, that is...
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Kevin Smith does alright, but he's only batting 60% ... Mallrats and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back were both pretty awful.

[ March 07, 2002, 13:43: Message edited by: Malnurtured Snay ]
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
JOE??!!?!??

Yeah, OtM, that's the same DVD I got.

Man, they should have left Azrael's bar rant on the nature of Hell IN the movie.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Joe, Jay, what's the difference?
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Oh, yeah, I really love how you didn't get on Mar's case about having the Special Addition.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
What was wrong w/ Mallrats?
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Well, it wasn't quite as funny as Clerks and Chasing Amy (leaving aside Dogma and the new one, which I'm not as familiar with.) More than that, Smith made more than a few concessions to the "studio" that he was, in retrospect, not happy with.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
TSN -- in short, it wasn't very fun. Also in short, it sucked. It wasn't any good. It reeked like my cats' litter box.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
In other matters, and out of pure curiousity, Rob, want type of handgun(s) do you own? Glock, Sig, Colt, S&W? Something else?

(P.S. -- my motive is simple curiousity and not to turn this into another debate about government regulation which is really silly since I think even Fo2 and Omega are against assault rifles and what not ... )
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Guess not ...
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
Sorry, I stopped looking at this thread.

SIG Sauer P220 "American"

Wanna see one?
http://www.gunnery.net/sig/220.html
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
GUN PORN!

[ March 31, 2002, 10:12: Message edited by: Malnurtured Snayer ]
 


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