Well, not really. But, did anyone catch ER last night (for all of those who live here in the States)? I've been saying since Y2K that by 2005 we'd have a scripted, filmed and aired instance of the word "shit" in spoken dialogue on network television in the U.S.
I'm not saying that it's a revolutionary idea or anything...I was just surprised when Dr. Greene said it last night. It was a very good scene when Mark realizes the tumor in his head has paralyzed his entire right side and that he can't walk anymore. He falls down trying, slams hand on the floor and yells, "SHIT!" Cut to commercial.
I thought it was very emotionally honest, myself. It was a good scene.
Posted by YrdMehc (Member # 417) on :
I got to see the short scene with him and the girl one the Missouri, then crying in her room, then her going to talk to her dad, while he was laying on the patio..... then the TVs owner switched to Prophecy 3....
So, he wasn't dead in that scene??? I won't tell my wife, she thought he was....
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
Wow someone finally said shit on American television, another thirty years and maybe I will be able to watch Easy Rider uncut on american tv. WhooHoo
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
No, he wasn't dead there. He didn't die until the end of the show. It showed a brief clip of the funeral after that. It was neat...they had a bunch of the older characters at the funeral. Michael Ironsides from a few years back. The big receptionist guy that was there fro the first few years. Even some of the recently departed characters were there. Eric Lasalle and the lady he was dating. Notable exceptions: Malucci wasn't there and neither were George Clooney or Juliana Margulies (SP?).
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Wait a minute.
Mark Greene's gonna die?
Benton's gonna leave?
Sucks to be a year behind.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Hey... I put spoiler warnings in Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Oh, I don't mind. Just a bit surprised.
(And curious as to why someone would want to give up an acting job that pays $500.000 per episode ).
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Depends on your definition of "network." FX beat NBC out by a month with "The Shield," which I might add is an in-fucking-CREDible show.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
if we are going to consider FX a "network" then we might as well mention that history making episode of south park where they say shit every other word (funny episode, by the way).
--jacob
[ May 10, 2002, 08:49: Message edited by: EdipisReks ]
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Network = non-cable TV.
In this case, anyway. The Shield is pretty damn cool.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Yes. I was speaking of ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS and FOX as the "network" television. All the free stuff.
I've seen previews for The Shield, but I've never seen it. It's got the guy from The Commish in it, right? From the previews, it seems like this is...well...a bit different than that Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Yeah, I always loved Michael Chiklis in "The Commish"...& this really IS the "anti-Commish." Jeff would love the first couple episodes becasue it's got "Homicide" alum in front of & behind the camera. When an episode opens with a nude female face up on the ground, breasts exposed...& a detective talking about how he's "never seen a pair like those before" (& his partner asks, "You sure you don't want to take a squeeze before the ME gets here?")...yeah. My kinda show.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Here's the lowdown: Mark actually died in last week's episode. Carter gets a letter from Mark on how he's doing. He reads the letter to most of the staff there. At the end he reads the addendum from Elizabeth that Mark passed away at 6:04am Hawaii time (presumably). He has Frank (a receptionist and ex-cop) post it up for others to read it. The rest of last weeks episode dealt with the rest of the staff coming to terms with his death. Kerry tries to clean out Mark's locker but can't. Carter finishes the job for her and takes Mark's stethascope (sp?). Kerry finally admits that she actually lost a friend despite always butting heads with him. Near the end, we have a scene exactly like what happened in the pilot. In the pilot Carter (who was a med student at the time) got sick when helping an injured patient and Mark came out to say it's alright. In this episode, Gallant (the new med student) get's sick and has Carter come out saying it's alright.
Last night's episode was a flashback of sorts as we see Mark's final days. He does die at the end, with the funeral occuring at the very end. The entire main ER staff is there including Peter and Cleo from Northwestern Hospital. Donald Anspaugh (former head of County) is also there as is Ironsides (can't remember his character's name) and Romano, Jennifer, and Gallant in his army uniform. We only see two ER nurses there, Abby and Halleh, but presumably there were others. Correct we don't see Mallucci, Carol, Doug, Anna, and Jeanie. We also don't see Pratt there as well because he only knew Mark for one day and besides someone still has to be at the hospital. Anyway, those we don't see could still have been there. (Except fot Lucy as we already know she passed away a few seasons back)
Oh, and most likely, the original script probably had Mark saying something else like "Damn!" and was probably filmed that way for the NBC executives to preview, but was reshot and re-edited for the final airing for the public. They did something similar when Juliana Marguilles left and had a cameo by George Clooney at the end. (The execs didn't know Clooney was going to be in the episode)
[ May 10, 2002, 10:20: Message edited by: Dat ]
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Actually, I've been following it since the pilot Shik -- although I was 100% certain that it would suck just by virtue of all the damn adds F/X ran for it.
Well, advertising is BOUND to be correct every now and then ... right?
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Jeanie...that's who I forgot. Those absences could be explained by the fact that those characters couldn't be reached or that noone thought to call them.
I didn't see William H. Macy's character there either. He was Benton's mentor. Chief of surgery before Romano.
Doug and Carol's absence could be explained by the fact that they couldn't get there in time. The real reason is most likely that the actors didn't want to bother with it.
I thought one of the coolest things ER did was get Clooney to do a guest spot when Carol left. That and the death of Lucy. That was just excellently done.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
What about Susan Lewis? Was she present at Mark's funeral, or mentioned in dialog?
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Cartman, given since she's a regular on the series ...
[ May 10, 2002, 10:45: Message edited by: Malnurtured Snay ]
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Was, you mean.
Ah well. I'll find out in a year or so
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Susan Lewis rejoined the cast?
*Really* sucks to lag a year behind
[ May 10, 2002, 11:37: Message edited by: Cartman ]
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
She rejoined the cast earlier this season. I guess, since the next year has already been ruined for you, you won't mind that little tidbit :0)
They even got the lady that plays Mark's ex-wife back again for the funeral and the little bit afterwards.
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
I've just seen the episode "Beyond Repair" (the one after Benton leaves). My questiond are: how long do I have to wait to see this episode?, and: I thought that Mark had his tumor removed in the previous series when he had his head cut open - if so how can it kill him? Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
It came back.
Let's see. Benton left...a few months ago, I think... I'd say half a season still, until you catch up.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Um... ER used the word "shit" in an episode a couple years ago. A lot of places (including here in St. Louis) bleeped it out. It was a big deal at the time. I don't even watch the show, and I remember it...
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Really...what episode was that?
I guess my point was, though, that they didn't bleep it out this time. At least they didn't here.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Yes, the tumor came back. Mark was yelling at Rachel at the hospital when he accidentalliy bites his tongue severely as it starts bleeding. Susan tries to treat him and tells him to open up his mouth and stick out his tongue straight. He sticks out his tounge toward one side but believes it's out straight. He goes to Neurology and back to New York to see that doc that took out his tumor. That doc tells him is a new regrowth and this time it can't be operated on. He gives Mark about 10 months to live and states that he really should have been dead already. Mark goes on medication and hides the bad news from everyone except for Susan who already knows. Elizabeth eventually finds out as does everyone else. He realizes it's beginning to be hopeless so why bother trying to prolong the inevitable. He volunterily goes off medication (though he's still taking some meds that only help control himself temporarily) and quits his job.
[Edited because of a typo, even though there are probably others]
[ May 10, 2002, 16:57: Message edited by: Dat ]
Posted by U//Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Well, at least none of y'all need a lie-detector test to prove that you know that Jake slept with Kimberley who has Luke's baby, and Susan married Margo.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"what episode was that?"
Hell if I know. Like I said, I don't watch it. I just remeber that it was a big deal, and it was on the news and such. I only remember it because it seemed such a sad commentary on our society when we're so hung up that the use of a random combination of four letters on a television program is big news...
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
So what is happening on Y&R lately lets find out about all the soap operas.
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