[ June 08, 2002, 09:19: Message edited by: Cartman ]
Posted by Magna Ultrus (Member # 239) on :
Kind of like when they replace the targets at the NHL All-Star Skills accuracy shooting competition.
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
That is butt ugly.
Posted by Obese Penguin (Member # 271) on :
I am for rebuilding the WTC site but its to soon not to mention that design is just plain nasty, my 8th grade art project looked better than that and It was made from pepsi cans and pringles containers.
Ugh, and it gets worse just start reading some of the info.
[ June 08, 2002, 10:46: Message edited by: Obese Penguin ]
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
That looks kinda nifty, actually. But that pyramid on top doesn't...
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
5 mile no fly zone? Aint there some kind of airport around there? That is ugly, and if it was anything learned it was not to make really really really really tall buildings.
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
I thought it strange that the site was using some 'Twin Peaks' music.
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
Looks like something out of science fiction.
"1: Our Cyber City will have a State of the Art External Security System which at this stage evolves around "Sound Waves" which has the capacity at a specific frequency to repel flying objects up to a five mile circumference. We will seek support from the political system to bring about an edict that a "Five Mile No Fly Zone" area is put into effect around the island of Manhattan."
Comes with its own state-of-the-art air defenses, too!
"To conclude, the best definition I can give you re the issue of "Security" is that we will manage security on the basis of RISK whereby no element of human doubt or human complacency will ever prevail and put our commercial occupants, residents and visitors AT RISK !"
They said something about Titanic being unsinkable, too.
And why would anyone want to live there? It's practically living on the graves of 2833 people.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
There was an interview in the paper last week with the original WTC architect and he wants to get the site up and running again by 2012.
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
quote:Originally posted by The BWC: if it was anything learned it was not to make really really really really tall buildings.
That was a pretty ignorant comment. Should we tear down the Empire State Building, Sears Tower and all those other "really really really really tall buildings" because of future terrorist attacks? The Pentagon was 5 stories high, and it got hit just like the 110 story WTC towers. How do you expect them to fit the office space needed in a large city like New York with limited land without building up?
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
Wraith, just so you know, the original architect of the WTC, Minoru Yamasaki, died of cancer Feb. 7, 1986 at age 73.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Psycic Readings by Wraith....
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
It looks like something out of SimCity. Something ugly.
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
I noticed that they have residential areas in the thing. Yup, that's where I want to live, right at the centre of ground zero.
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
1. What drug was the guy who thought that up smoking? 2. They are going to put 2833 plaques below 2833 trees to honor the victims. Just because it's at ground zero doesn't change a thing. I would rather have a plaque in my honor if I died at some memorial in Washington than a hotel-ish lobby. 3. Where is he going to get the money? 4. If there goal is to create a no-fly zone, wouldn't the helicopter decks on levels 45 and 75 be pointless? 5. How long would it take to build it? 6. Cyber-city? Why don't we just program all our knowledge at age 60 into a computer, make sure we don't have sex and let the human race die out? 7. If the WTC was too tall to prevent a terrorist attack, adding MORE on it would make it more vunerable. Not just to terrorists. To weather. If a noreaster came along that tower would be rockin back and forth. 8. As said before, I sure wouldn't want to live at grond zero. 9. If you wanted to honor them, it would be more logical to me if the cleared that off, made it a memorial with a plaque with all the names? 10. I would like to think that if they did that, other contries would have more respect to them not to put their respective office there.
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Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
I was trying to think how you could make a building completely safe from any sort of attack, as these designers so very optimistically claim to have done. After rejecting several ideas which involved resolving long-standing socio-economic, ethnic and religious conflicts as being too implausible, I realized that there isn't really a good way to do this. Even NORAD isn't completely invulnerable and it has the advantage of wearing the Rocky Mountains as a hat.
I mean some options could include: moving it around to a random location every twenty minutes or so; constructing it out of solid titanium and gold (I mean solid: such that no one could ever enter); constructing it and then kill or horrendously injure and then sterilize everyone everywhere so that they (or their offspring) would never be capable or willing to make the building a target of their hatred; usw.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
The design team found a neat little craft and traveled to the 25th century....
There they pretended to be from the future, posing as historians, and acquired various bits of technology and designs....
nah, sounds to unrealistic.....
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Wow, a Flash site that won't load on my computer. Without being able to actually see it, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that this website has almost as much to do with the people who will actually make the decisions on what to do with the site as I do.
Sheesh, why not just go all the way: when danger is detected, the buildings turn into Voltron. That way we're protected from radical Islamic terrorists and Prince Lotor.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
actually, seeing as two tall building and several of the smaller WTC buildings were destroyed, i would propose that they build five towers with an equal office space lost in the originals.. basically make the two towers shorter and make the other buildings taller to compensate, and have five or six buildings of equal height there
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
The majority of their silly proposal building is glass. What better replacement than one that would send shards of glass raining down on everyone if attacked.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: It looks like something out of SimCity. Something ugly.
Yeah, that was my first thought as well... it kinda resembles one of those weird arcology contraptions.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ace: Wraith, just so you know, the original architect of the WTC, Minoru Yamasaki, died of cancer Feb. 7, 1986 at age 73.
*ahem* Ah. right. Um... must have been someone on his design team. Or something.
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
Anyway, I don't understand why everyone seems to blame the buildings as "unable to prevent/stop/withstand a terrorist attack." The only way to stop future attacks is to resolve the political problems and stop the terrorist operations where they begin: at the airports.
I don't know about making the surrounding buildings taller and lowering the two towers in a possible reconstruction. A majority of Manhattan looks pretty congested with buildings, and any design like this would just further create an "urban jungle." A neat feature of the original WTC was the plaza. Unlike other famous skyscrapers like the Empire State Building or Chrysler Building, the two towers were not directly surrounded by streets. People walked to the towers from an open plaza complete with benches and sculptures, thus creating a "warmer" and more peaceful feeling to the buildings' extreme heights.
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
Let's hope our buildings never attack us.
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
for the most part it looks okay, the pyramid at the top doesnt fit.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
I think this proposal has potential. The little animation when the applet is loading that shows a top view of the structure looks pretty nifty.
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
I hate this building design. I could care less if it was on Ground Zero since I would not live in a building that looked like what I do when I stack my soda cans.
If you really want to rebuild the buildings you could do the following:
1. Build a singlular tower, same height as the Twin Towrs but twice as large (Twin towers took up a acre each, this would take up lets say 4 acres.) It would look fat but it would make up for office space, have more space for more heavy structural supports, so a singular plane does not slice through the entire tower which is what happened on 9-11. So if did get attacked, somehow, the other structural supports would take the stress from the damaged structural supports. This is my idea after my Advanced Design Seminar decided to design what we wanted to put there to replace the WTC.
2. Rebuild the Twin Towers to look basically the same, however using higher grade materials, and heavy reinforced structural beams. Maybe even armor it as well.
3. Or go the way of the American and rebuild the Twin Towers but add a larger one in the middle.
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