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Posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy (Member # 510) on :
 
hopefully he did indeed contract it in Great Britain, because i don't want mad cow in North America. goddam prions.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Hm... UM flees Saskatchewan, and then people there suddenly start dying of rare diseases? Connection? I wonder...
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
As sympathetic as I try to be, I still have a great deal of trouble carting over CJD. "Oh no, potentially DOZENS could die from it this year! It's the most LETHAL DISEASE EVER!"
 
Posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy (Member # 510) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
As sympathetic as I try to be, I still have a great deal of trouble carting over CJD. "Oh no, potentially DOZENS could die from it this year! It's the most LETHAL DISEASE EVER!"

you're in the UK, right? you could have CJD. you wouldn't know it until you started showing symptoms, which could take years. it's totally incurable, and who you are is slowly destroyed along with the ability to care for yourself. sounds pretty scary to me.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"CJD takes years! It's a slow, 'orrible death!"
"Well, at least it gets you out in the open air."

Erm... No, doesn't work. Nevermind.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PsyLiam:
[qb]you're in the UK, right? you could have CJD. you wouldn't know it until you started showing symptoms, which could take years. it's totally incurable, and who you are is slowly destroyed along with the ability to care for yourself. sounds pretty scary to me.

Yes. I could also have a brain tumor, or cancer, or Pakinson's disease, or any sort of disease that lies dormant. Worrying about it will do diddly squat.

The main thing that bugged me is that when the whole "mad cow" thing started, several people stopped eating beef. Which was slightly pointless, since after consuming possible infected cattle for over two decades, stopping AFTER they had the massive culls really wouldn't have done much at all.
 
Posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy (Member # 510) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
quote:
Originally posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PsyLiam:
[qb]you're in the UK, right? you could have CJD. you wouldn't know it until you started showing symptoms, which could take years. it's totally incurable, and who you are is slowly destroyed along with the ability to care for yourself. sounds pretty scary to me.

Yes. I could also have a brain tumor, or cancer, or Pakinson's disease, or any sort of disease that lies dormant. Worrying about it will do diddly squat.

The main thing that bugged me is that when the whole "mad cow" thing started, several people stopped eating beef. Which was slightly pointless, since after consuming possible infected cattle for over two decades, stopping AFTER they had the massive culls really wouldn't have done much at all.

yes, but those diseases all have treatments. they all have hope of recovery. once there is evidence of BSE in the US, i will stop eating beef until enough reforms are made that BSE can be stopped. there is no evidence for any BSE in the US up to this point, so stopping beef consumption after the first evidence (remember, this stuff gets tested for) would probably be a fairly effective way of preventing CJD, since there is little chance of being exposed up until this point. you're argument is also a little silly. it's like saying "well, you've been smoking cigarettes for 20 years, so you might as well just keep at it". granted, eating more contaminated beef doesn't give you a worse form of CJD (if you've already got it) the way cigarettes will worsen emphysema, but it is never a bad idea to eliminate risk factors after a problem has been identified in the public at large.
 
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 
Read enough of Liam's posts and you would swear he already had it.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Is this about me hating the Daedalus again?

And there's as much hope of recovery from Parkinson's as there is from CJD, surely?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Yeah, but CJD turns your brain into a sponge. At least w/ Parkinson's, you just shake around a bit. Or more than a bit.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
It also destroys parts of your reasoning, your memory, and your ability to percive the outside world. And a whole host of other mental problems.

And it dosen't make you shake either. Parkinson's stops you from moving altogether. The drugs taken to counteract it are what cause you to shake.

And the only reason I didn't include Altzeimer's on that list is because I was sure I'd spell it wrong. Tim?
 
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
Alzheimer's.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
YOU ARE NOT TIMMY!
 
Posted by Captain... Mike (Member # 709) on :
 
Nix-pick his Nixpick!
 
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
Tim-may
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Hmm. I don't think there's a hyphen in the name. It's said quickly. "TIMMAY!"

But you can't capture the sheer glory of Timmy through the medium of text. You have to experience him aurally.
 
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
I did NOT misread that.
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
It also destroys parts of your reasoning, your memory, and your ability to percive the outside world. And a whole host of other mental problems.

And it dosen't make you shake either. Parkinson's stops you from moving altogether. The drugs taken to counteract it are what cause you to shake.

And the only reason I didn't include Altzeimer's on that list is because I was sure I'd spell it wrong. Tim?

there aer treatments for parkinsons, and stem cells seem very promising. there is none of this for CJD. how do you stop a protein?
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
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It also destroys parts of your reasoning, your memory, and your ability to percive the outside world. And a whole host of other mental problems
Oh, crap. This happens to me just from being online!
 
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
Join the club. [Razz]
 
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
quote:

But you can't capture the sheer glory of Timmy through the medium of text. You have to experience him aurally.

Thanks!! I've been struggleing with that very question.

TIMMAY!!
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EdipisReks:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PsyLiam:
there aer treatments for parkinsons, and stem cells seem very promising. there is none of this for CJD. how do you stop a protein?

Treatments != cure. And yes, stem cell research is very promising. Good thing that Georgie boy put a stop to that then, eh?

And I'd weigh up the number of people with Parkinsons, and the number with CJD. Slight difference.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"how do you stop a protein?"

With an antimatter protein? Or, if it's a very submissive protein, you could just order it to stop.
 
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
 
Or, you can get a Negatine!

Thank you.
 
Posted by ThoughtPyminal (Member # 480) on :
 
[Embarrassed] [Embarrassed] [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
quote:
Originally posted by EdipisReks:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PsyLiam:
there aer treatments for parkinsons, and stem cells seem very promising. there is none of this for CJD. how do you stop a protein?

Treatments != cure. And yes, stem cell research is very promising. Good thing that Georgie boy put a stop to that then, eh?

And I'd weigh up the number of people with Parkinsons, and the number with CJD. Slight difference.

stem cell research hasn't been stopped in the US, only limited. i would rather have Parkinsons than CJD, personally.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
You are much more likely to.
 


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