quote:Burton said she knew the assignment had been successful when one of her students spotted a child on the playground wall and said, "Hey, Mrs. Burton, he's on the rampart!"
desire to kill RISING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by E. Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"a song they sang every morning"
All good Americans should.
Tsssk, kids these days.
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
Just teach them "O Canada" they will need it for the future.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Stupid Indianians.
Posted by Toadkiller (Member # 425) on :
Given that these stories very rarely give one enough information to tell what exactly happened I could see how this might be a useful idea for an assignment.
Take a song or poem that is deemed important for the students to understand and/or think about and modify the language. The entire point, in fact, might be to teach them what the words mean by making them define them as part of a project.
Not saying that is what happened - but it is an example of what might have happened.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
I find myself liking the idea. As was pointed out in the article, at least some kids did learn the words. Seems like as good a method as any. And heck, they're learning to use reference materials, too.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
The tune for the Star spangled banner was originally from an 18th century drinking song. Which makes a strange kind of sense.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Are these the same kids that know all 152 Pokemon names?
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omega: I find myself liking the idea. As was pointed out in the article, at least some kids did learn the words. Seems like as good a method as any. And heck, they're learning to use reference materials, too.
i didn't read about any kids learning the words. a "playground wall" and a "rampart" are two very very different things. [edited for spelling mistake]
[ September 25, 2002, 13:12: Message edited by: EdipisReks ]
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Exactly. So, some of the kids aren't learning the words at all, and the other ones are learning incorrect definitions.
Fucking education system...
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
quote:Originally posted by Snay: Stupid Indianians.
That's Hoosiers, bitch Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
quote:Burton said the students intend to update the words to the Gettysburg Address and the Declaration of Independence later this year.
The little idiots will probably just nick Bill Pullman's speech for Independence Day.
I like the way that one class - the ones having the problems with the words in the first place - conducted this exercise and as a result ended up learning what the words meant, a research project they could perhaps have been set in the first place. Now countless further generations of Hoosier schoolkids will get to grow up with the new revised lyrics, until those are judged too difficult. Eventually the lyrics to "The Star-Spangled Banner" will just go "la, la, la. . ."
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Eventually the lyrics to 'The Star-Spangled Banner' will just go 'la, la, la. . .'"
I think, for most people, they already do.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Probably an improvement.
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
America �ber Alles, anyone?
In the Spring they are going to simplify and rearrange the Bill of Rights in an effort to more accurately reflect the power structure of the present regime.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
You know, the article says the kids merely changed the words to something 5th graders understand. It doesn't say that these kids are going to start singing it like this from now on. So they translated the Star-Spangled Banner so little kids can understand it. OK, so now they understand it, so they'll know what they're singing when they sing the regular song.
I don't see the problem here at all...
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
i understood what the star spangled banner meant when i was in fifth grade. every damn word of it. it isn't that hard. why hadn't these kids learned what "rampart" and "parapet" meant by then? oh wait, because they weren't little fucking dweebs like i was. oh well.
my biggest problem with this isn't that they are "translating" the words, but that they [the kids] aren't being given the correct definitions. playground rampart my ass!
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Originally posted by Balaam Xumucane:
quote: America �ber Alles, anyone?
Yeah, sounds about right for me!
No, but seriously I agree with Vogon on that one. Making everything simpler all the time isn't necessarily a good thing. One day people will go back to making sounds like animals if you continue that line of thought to the end. They will lose the ability to express themselves with the wide variety of words, phrases etc. that we use today.
You can see that already things are moving in that direction. As soon as kids are not taught proper vocabulary anymore, other skills will follow. "You can't multiply three by 15? Ok, just add one and two instead. What, you can't do that either? Ok, go back home and watch Dragonball Z - can you do that?"
Why am I reminded just now of Ace Rimmer talking to Arnold Rimmer: "Smoke me a kipper - can you do THAT?" ? Posted by E. Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Oh yes, altering the lyrics of a jingoist SONG written over two hundred years ago will surely lead to the downfall of civilization as we know it. OUR SOCIETY IS ROTTEN TO TEH CORE!!1!1!!!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Actually, it's a poem. It was put to music later.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Just to clarify: I'm OK with the idea of simplifying the words as a learning aid - that by doing so they're actually learning what the proper words mean; however, simplifying the words in order to not divert too much of the little mites' limited expansion spans away from remembering Nintendo Game Cube X-Box Whateverhefuck cheat codes, well, that's just plain dumb.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Go Super Monkey Ball!
Posted by O Captain Mike Captain (Member # 709) on :
o say can you see off the screen in 1-2 what so quickly we seek the warp zone to level 3!
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
I always thought it was sung to a hispanic person....
'Jose can you see.....'
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I do not need to listen to you. I can land on the 500 targets. The FIVE HUNDREDS!
I am your superior.
Posted by Nimpim (Member # 205) on :
E. Coli Cartman: "OUR SOCIETY IS ROTTEN TO TEH CORE!!"
Hey, we ain't talkin' 'bout love here! Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I landed on a 100 target once. Once. I don't think those balls are very aerodynamic.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Oh yeah, so the balls you are using aren't very dynamic...
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