Who first used Persephone as the name of a potential tenth planet?
In any case, I hope that's what they go for - that, or Bob. It'll be hard enough thinking of new menemonics to remember the planetary order without having a 'Q' on the end. Quaoar indeed.
quote:. . . after the creation myth of the Tongva people who inhabited the Los Angeles area before the arrival of the Spanish and other European settlers.
"Hey, guys, sorry about the whole centuries of oppression thing, and about stealing your land too. . . No, we're not going to give it back either. But hey! How's about we name a planet after your God? It's quite apt because this new planet is the Solar System's equivalent of the shitty lands we banished you to reservations on."
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
quote:Who first used Persephone as the name of a potential tenth planet?
Jack Williamson used it in "The Blue Spot" in 1937.
I haven't seen any mentions before that, yet.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
i hope it stays Quaoar. has a nice ring to it.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
It does?! 8)
Personally I'd prefer the planet to be named so it has something in common with the rest of them; which means figures from Greek mythology, clich�d though it may seem. Problem is a lot of them have been used up on asteroids etc. over the years, but I suspect Persephone has been held in reserve just in case. . .
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
I suppose that the naming would depend upon whether it would be classed as a planet - which looks unlikely.
I don't think there'll be any more "Roman" names until and unless an object BIGGER than Pluto is found.
Still, there's a few appropriate names left
Persephone Somnus Morpheus Terminus Forculus Agenoria Adeona...
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Was Pluto taken off the list of planets.... or was that just an attempt a few years back???
Posted by E. Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Merely an attempt. But Pluto is in fact nothing more than a glorified clump of ice and rock, and too small to be considered a planet.
Posted by Free ThoughtCrime America (Member # 480) on :
Did they use Plebius yet? That would go really well with a super-massive planet.
Also: Did they ever decide what the cut-off point is for planets? Pluto is pretty damn small, but then, Mercury isn't really that much bigger.
Why not just use a classification system where: If it has an atmosphere and is orbiting a star, it's a planet. If not, no matter how small or large, it's a planetoid/asteroid/whatever.
I guess you could just say it's a planet if it has an atmosphere, but that would confuse the public too much. Titan, for example, would get argued over by people who can't think in a holistic fashion. Even though that's the way it should be...planets can be satellites of bigger planets, Saturn is orbited by both planets and planetoids...
It would put this Pluto matter to rest, anyway. Having a debate over whether anything orbiting the sun is a planet or not is a waste of time.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
I'm sorry, but they have to change the name...
and as for Pluto.....
quote: Researchers say that as larger Kuiper Belt objects turn up, the case for regarding Pluto as a fully fledged planet weakens.
Pluto lies within the Kuiper Belt and is considered by many to be merely among the largest of the bunch, and not a planet in its own right.
"It's pretty clear, if we discovered Pluto today, knowing what we know about other objects in the Kuiper Belt, we wouldn't even consider it a planet," said Brown.
Posted by Nimpim (Member # 205) on :
"It'll be hard enough thinking of new menemonics to remember the planetary order without having a 'Q' on the end."
What is "menemonics"?
Roman names, hmm... How about
Babylon Sodom Gomorra ?
Posted by O Captain Mike Captain (Member # 709) on :
a mnemonic device is a memory tool to help you remember something by association
the sentence "My Very Excellent Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas" is usually taught to schoolchildren, as a way to remember the letters > MVEMJUNP < so that the children will be able to use that string of letters to properly order the planets Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
I always preferred the recess variants like "Mary's Vaginal Excretions Jellied Sally's Unwashed Neck Polyp" or something of the like.
If we go with another 'p' planet, i guess they could change it to "Pizza! Pizza!" and have Little Caesar's cash in on it.
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nimpim: Roman names, hmm... How about
Babylon Sodom Gomorra ?
Since when are any of those Roman? OR Gods?
Posted by Free ThoughtCrime America (Member # 480) on :
My very excellent mother just served us nine perfect quaffs. Hey, that works!
In other news, it was harder for me as a child to remember the mnemetic device than to just recall the names of the planets. I seem to remember missing the question about the preferred mnemetic thing whilst getting the planets correct on some test in first or second grade.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
wouldn't the "preferred mnemetic" be the one that works for you? and boy, the roman's sure did speak a lot of languages and worship a lot of cities!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
You have to admit, though, it'd be pretty funny if they named a pair of celestial objects "Sodom" and "Gomorrah"...
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
quote:You have to admit, though, it'd be pretty funny if they named a pair of celestial objects "Sodom" and "Gomorrah"...
Not if they were heading straight for the Earth. It would be ironic but not funny.
Posted by Free ThoughtCrime America (Member # 480) on :
quote: wouldn't the "preferred mnemetic" be the one that works for you?
It should have been. Highlighting yet another failure of the educational system in Texas, we had to learn the phrase they wanted us to learn, not make one up ourselves.
I believe they thought children were incapable of making phrases up themselves.
That's not all. We as second-graders had to learn a mnemetic phrase for all the State stuff of Texas, like state bird, state gem, state flower, and so on. If there is any information on planet earth that is more worthless than that, I have yet to find it.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
ohio's official state rock song is Hang on Sloopy. why does everything in this damn country have to be so banal?
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
quote:Originally posted by EdipisReks: ohio's official state rock song is Hang on Sloopy.
That's very funny .
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Knowing some pretty worthless people in Ohio, it is very fitting....
Posted by Free ThoughtCrime America (Member # 480) on :
Half of the people I interact with online are from Ohio, a fact that has often disturbed me.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
heh.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
They should have taught you a mnemonic device to remember the word "mnemonic"...
Posted by Free ThoughtCrime America (Member # 480) on :
hukked on fonix werked fer me.
Elitist.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
quote: In any case, I hope that's what they go for - that, or Bob
I aways liked Bob. In my brief foray into computer games, I played one where you tried to take over the universe, and had to pick a name for yourself, as emporor. Mine was always Bob. I wasted a lot of time on that game, and never became emporor, alas.
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