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Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
Has anyone read this article in the Globe and Mail?
Is there a Geek Syndrome?

And more importantly, has anyone tried writing that quiz?
There's an online version of it at http://voi.aagh.net/tests/autism/ if
you're too lazy (like me) to use pen and paper.
I'm scoring a rather high 27 or 29 (I tried it twice)
 
Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :
 
Well, I must have had Autism earlier in life. Prone to temper tantrums, thinking like a geek etc. Now I'm one hundred percent cured. I'm calm and cool as a raspberry, and I'm as dumb as a pile of bricks.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I got a 27, too.
 
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
What about the athletes that have autistic kids??
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
Is there a trend here? I scored a 27 the second time I took the test, too. (I got a 22 the first time, but a few of my responses were borderline, so I went back and changed them to see the result.)

I've never been the most social person, but I've never thought that I have any particular condition, or a problem interacting with others. I think I'm just naturally "quiet."
 
Posted by Tora Ziyal (Member # 53) on :
 
I got a 12, but for some answers I was sorta in the middle rather than one way or the other.

So...moral of the story is don't marry other programmers if you're one?
 
Posted by LOA (Member # 49) on :
 
I scored a 16, which means I'm "normal"... whew! What a relief! [Wink]
 
Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :
 
27.

How come I still feel as dumb as a pile of bricks?
 
Posted by O Capped In Mic Capped In (Member # 709) on :
 
hm.. 23
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
14
 
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
 
25.
 
Posted by newark (Member # 888) on :
 
Uhm...I got 31 out of 50. If I was any higher, I would have autism.

Many of the questions refer to social situations. Unfortunately for me, I have difficulty in relating to people. Before I suffered a mental breakdown in 1998, I didn't associate people with reality. They were shadows to me. It is only within this year that I have come to associate people with reality and feel their 'presence'.

I think my condition may be genetic. My father's side has a history of mental history. He is referred to in our family as "Mountainjacks Dad". This is a reference to a picture we have of him. He has a vacant expression with a beard which reaches to his belly surrounded by his loving family. (I haven't spoken to him in a long time.) My grandmother died from a severe illness of the brain. When alive, she thought there were demons in her house and couldn't recognize herself in a mirror.
 
Posted by Free ThoughtCrime America (Member # 480) on :
 
I am autistic. What a load of crap.
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
22.

I'm a bit dubious. . . Some of the questions interested me. I'm not good at imagining myself as someone else, which is why I don't do role-play or computer games, or have even tried that "create your own superhero" thing. I just don't see the point: I'm me, nothing is going to change that. On another note, the reason I might find it hard to keep track of several conversations simultaneously has more to do with a hearing difficulty than latent autism. . .
 
Posted by Nimpim (Member # 205) on :
 
Voi-Aagh?? Some obscure, alien battlecry? Or is it africaans for sodomy?
 
Posted by Nimpim (Member # 205) on :
 
I scored 22, but-but I hate math!

I wondered about question 9, am I fascinated by dates? Hell no! They taste mealy and are sticky. Blefargh!-This is not just a defense mechanism!

Moreover, I pity the fool who thinks this is an intelligence test.
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
26.

Excuse we while I obsessively sort out my toe-nail-clippings collection by weight, age and size.

Talking about "reading between the lines" and "other people's intentions", they could've done with one question: "Are you autistic?".
 
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
22.... Fascinating....
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
You scored 16 out of a possible 50.

The test assesses five different areas. Autistic-like responses will show poor social skill, attention switching, communication and imagination, and an exaggerated attention to detail. Scores over 32 are generally taken to indicate Asperger's Syndrome or high-functioning autism, with more than 34 an "extreme" score. A "normal" score, based on control groups, is about 16 (or 15 for women and between 17 and 18 for men). A group of mathematics-contest winners scored an average of 24.5. A group of scientists scored an average of 18.5 (19 for men, 17 for women), with computer scientists at about 21, physicists at 19 and those in biology or medicine at about 15.

Well, exactly the area I'm in and enjoy!

Huh. [Smile]

Andrew
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
i got a 16.
 
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
 
22
 
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
quote:

You scored 27 out of a possible 50.

The test assesses five different areas. Autistic-like responses will show poor social skill, attention switching, communication and imagination, and an exaggerated attention to detail. Scores over 32 are generally taken to indicate Asperger's Syndrome or high-functioning autism, with more than 34 an "extreme" score. A "normal" score, based on control groups, is about 16 (or 15 for women and between 17 and 18 for men). A group of mathematics-contest winners scored an average of 24.5. A group of scientists scored an average of 18.5 (19 for men, 17 for women), with computer scientists at about 21, physicists at 19 and those in biology or medicine at about 15.

So what does 27 mean, that I'm a very high functioning autistic, or a low functioning, non autistic?

Maybe a mid functioning normal?

Good thing they didn't include anything about spelling.
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
Uh-oh... uh-oh... Definitely 38. Yeah.

I thought it was odd that they didn't include list-making as a relevant thing. I make lists of things almost compulsively.
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
I scored a 24. About average for around here, I guess. [Smile]
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
i hate lists. hell, i just wing it when i go to the grocery store. which means, generally, that i don't have the correct ingredients to make anything that i want to make once i get home.
 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
Actually, this quiz is of particular interest to me because I'm in bioinformatics, a program that tries to combine CS and genetics with varying success.

The main reason for the program from a financial point of view, is that the industry is finding out that you simply can't teach biologists, computer science. Meanwhile (especially during the dot com boom) most CS students didn't want to undertake extra training after graduating with a degree when they could just go out and make loads of money.

Now notice this:
quote:
A group of mathematics-contest winners scored an average of 24.5. A group of scientists scored an average of 18.5 (19 for men, 17 for women), with computer scientists at about 21, physicists at 19 and those in biology or medicine at about 15
CS at Waterloo is administered out of a faculty of Math. Thats right, one of the only universities in Canada with a faculty of math. So everyone in the faculty is a mathematics contest winner by default (24.5) and we're combining it with biology (15)...the two extreme scores.

This bears some thought.
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
I got the impression biology was cited as hardly being an absolute extreme but rather an extreme within the "geeky" pursuits.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Freaks!
 
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
I got a 29. This definatly does not bode well for me...
 
Posted by O Capped In Mic Capped In (Member # 709) on :
 
definitely...
 
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
Biology + CS = Borg
 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The_Tom:
I got the impression biology was cited as hardly being an absolute extreme but rather an extreme within the "geeky" pursuits.

Well, those are the only ones that matter. Heh.
But you have a point, the score for biology lies in the "control group" range. It is interesting that they never named the disorder that affects people at the other extreme of the scale.

quote:
Originally posted by The_Tom:
Biology + CS = Borg

Unfortunately for popular culture, "Biology + CS" has more to do with genetic engineering, gene identification, hereditary disorders, protein analysis, etc.
If you want the Borg stuff, thats down the hall in biomechanics, i.e. biomedical engineering. Or even nanotechnology down at the UofT.
I'll leave it to the peanut gallery to decide which field is more controversial/dangerous [Wink]
 
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
Took the test twice, and both times I scored a 9 out of 50.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Simon: A reference to all our freakishly-low 20-some scores?
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mucus:
It is interesting that they never named the disorder that affects people at the other extreme of the scale.

Um, mortal friendliness disorder? Advanced social dis-disfunction syndrome?
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
quote:
But you have a point, the score for biology lies in the "control group" range. It is interesting that they never named the disorder that affects people at the other extreme of the scale.

The other extreme... Arts Students. [Smile]
 
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
I must protest. I am NOT an art student.
 
Posted by O Capped In Mic Capped In (Member # 709) on :
 
but i am...
 
Posted by Nimpim (Member # 205) on :
 
"This doesn't bode well"

Ok, who more than I heard Deckard Cain when reading that?

"Shtay a while and lishen!"
 
Posted by Free ThoughtCrime America (Member # 480) on :
 
The test needs to add some clarifying questions:

Are you socially inept?

Is it because you enjoy being a bastard to people that deserve it, or is it because there is something wrong with you?

And so on.

What they really need is a Bastard Index.
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nimpim:
"This doesn't bode well"

Ok, who more than I heard Deckard Cain when reading that?

"Shtay a while and lishen!"

who let the barbarians are out? who, who?
 
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EdipisReks:
who let the barbarians are out? who, who?

English please...
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
that's a line from the Deckard Cain Rap.
 


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