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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
I wasn't exactly sure which forum this belongs in, here or General Sci-Fi, but it's here for now. Feel free to move it if you feel necessary

Anyway, James Bond, 007, back yet again for the 20th film, Die Another Day. 4th for Pierce Brosnan, and the 40th anniversary of the series. I just got home from watching it tonight in a rather good theater. Definatly unique compared to the other Brosnan films, Die Another Day opens with Bond playing pretend in North Korea, trying to take down a renegade North Korean general. The premises is alright, although I don't see how hard it could be to buy hovercraft anywhere in the world nowadays. Unfortunatly, unline the other Bond films, Bond himself does not escape. Bond is actually captured and tortured for 14 months in a North Korean prison.

Cue the opening credits and by far, the worst Bond song ever. Performed by Madonna, there are two versions of this song. One is a normal moody Madonna song, the other is an electronic dance remix of the same song. Guess which one made it into the movie... Another first is the fact that the opening credits overlay during actual parts of the movie. Instead of seeing just the naked girls flying across the screen with weapons, we see them flying across the screen and actually interacting with what is going on during the movie (Bond's torture). Overall, music bad, intro good.

Now, return to the movie, and Bond is traded for our main henchmen kinda guy, Zao, and returned to England. Unfortunatly, everyone thinks he squeled and so he's no longer a Double-O, and basically a useless person now. So, Bond goes renegade. I believe this is the 3rd renegade Bond movie (I think the last was "License To Kill"?) So Bond is now on a personal hunt of Zao, and first ends up in Hong Kong (good scene with the Hotel Owner/Chinese Agent), and then Cuba. Enter Jinx. Now, I'm not fond of Halle Berry. I really don't think she's anything special. And making her come off almost exactly like Ursula Andress in Dr. No was a bit much (although I guess it's part of the anniversary thing...). They both go trotting off to some island where they do "DNA resequencing" or something, that literally replaces your entire body with new DNA. Makes absolutely no logical sense, but apparently Zao is there getting the treatment. Cheap neon lights and plastic make for the medical effects here, and they don't come off to well, both here and later on in the film. Anyway, Zao runs, Jinx gives chase, however the Cubans catch up to her, and Jinx is forced to jump into the ocean to evade. Cheesy FX Shot Galore! I really don't think they were trying with that one, and they could have done it a lot simpler without CGI.

So now Bond is heading to London to track down our main bad guy, Gustav Graves, an Icelandic diamond kingpin, and very Bond-like in a bad way. He's also wrapped up in himself. Think the guy in charge of Virgin. He also apparently goes without sleep during his life. It'll be explained later. He's also a fencer (you know, swords). His instructor is Madonna, AKA Verity. Her part doesn't really stand out, she just has a few lines (almost all with sexual innuendo), and basically doesn't get in the way. Also enter Graves' secretary, Miranda Frost. YUMMY Anyway, a very nice fight ensues between Graves and Bond with swords, definately a lot better then any fist fight Bond has been in before.

Now, Bond is suddenly given a calling called from good old M, who had abandoned him after being saved from prison earlier in the movie. Since Bond has found Graves, she's now suddenly found a use for Bond and needs him back. Bond is quick to give her hell over her actions earlier, but he joins back up. Q shows up. Yes, Q, he's not R in this one since he replaces the old Q. Only a brief mention to the old Q is made, but the new Q is no longer a bumbling idiot. He is annoyed by Bond as the old Q was though, so its almost as if he's not really a replacement, merely a continuation. Old toys from previous Bond films appear, like his rocket pack and the small jet plane he used in a film. His new toys are a ring that has a sonic pulse to shatter glass, a new watch (Q mentions it's his 20th watch, same number as Bond films there have been), and...of course...the car. The car is fine, a good old Aston Martin Vanquish with all the goodies, rockets, machine gunes, ejector seat, bullet proof, etc. Except...IT HAS A CLOAKING DEVICE! The only letdown to this wonderful car is the fact that it is apparently able to become invisible. Really, I could have done without this cheap gimmick. As Q put it, "Aston Martin call it the Vanquish, we call it the Vanish".

So Bond heads to Iceland and one of those famous "Ice Hotels". Now, I've seen pictures of those Ice Hotels, but they look nothing like this. This thing is a bit over the top for my liking. EVERYTHING is ice, and that bothers me. Graves is trying to show off his new "Icarus" satellite, that can direct sunlight anywhere it wants (someone has been watching too much Batman Forever ). Anyway, Jynx is back and trying to get to Graves. Needless to say, she screws up and gets zapped by Graves' new PowerGlove. Remember that stupid glove that you could get for the Nintendo? Same thing except with a tazer. Bond on the other hand is knocking boots with Frost (since she is apparently a deeply undercover MI6 we learn). He soon follows Jinx's path to try and get Graves, finds Jinx under the attack from Lasers by a guy named Mr. Kil (gee, this sounds oddly familiar ). Gratitutous violence with the death of Kil, rather gruesome for a Bond film. Anyway, Bond confronts Graves, and we find out Frost is really a double agent, she's betrayed MI6 (had me fooled, that's for sure). So Jinx is trapped in a room in the Ice Hotel, and Bond is escaping in a rocket car. Enter Cheesy FX #2, of Bond trying to surf after an avalanche on a iceburg. Really could have been handled better again. Anyway, Bond makes it to his car, and...



...Enter the car chase. BEST car chase in a Bond film. I mean this was mad. Bond's car is found when some halfwit smashes into it while cloaked, so Zao gives chase in his neon green Jaguar XKR, which I think had more weapons then car itself. Both these men absolutely thrash their cars, shooting each other up. Zao's car has a chain gun come out of the trunk, and it's pretty damn useless because neither car comes home with bullet holes. In fact, even after Bond flips the car on its roof and then flips it back over, and then both men drive their cars THROUGH the ice hotel (for almost too long, I think), neither car is worse for wear except for the Vanquish's windshield purposly being destroyed to save Jinx. Zao is fittingly killed.

Anyway, Graves has loaded everything onto a huge AN-225 Condor and flown to North Korea again, and Bond is back at HQ with Jinx (who is NSA). By the way, you might recognize her boss, actor Michael Madson). Bond and Jinx are sent in to try and stop Graves before he can lead an army into the Korean Demilitarized Zone, but they fail, so they have to jump on his plane. Graves' PowerGlove has now expanded into full body armor, so he looks like a cheap Halloween Robocop with a Virtual Reality headset. Very cheap. Anyway, a VERY long-winded monologue with Graves and his "father", way too long in fact. Way too much character development for a guy who is going to die 5 minutes from now. Bond fights Graves in a decompressing "war room" in the bottom of the plane, Jinx swordfights Frost in a "temple" kinda room upstairs. Frost is looking even yummier in this scene, by the way. Anyway, take wild guesses as to who wins. So Bond and Jinx are now left on a burning cargo jet (the reason it's burning is rather stupid too, I think. That has to be the longest "crashing" plane I've ever seen), and the only way out is the conveniant helicopter stored inside. Of course, granted, they had to destroy two exotic supercars in the process (bastards... ), but nonetheless they get out. Basically, the end...

...except Miss Moneypenny and Q is an absolutely pointless but hilarious scene with virtual reality. I for one was fooled by it (not by the whole thing, merely by who the person was). Also, Leather must be the fashion statement this year, since not only does Jinx wear almost nothing but leather, but the North Korean military apparently wears leather now too...

So, anyway, Die Another Day. Definatly better then Tomorrow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough. Better then GoldenEye? Maybe. It's definatly a lot more original then GoldenEye. How it ranks up to the other 16? Definatly one of the better Bond films, better then anything Dalton did for sure, and better then most of the Moore movies. So anyway, go see it for yourself and judge.

(I had to put in a picture of the Aston, sue me...)

[ November 24, 2002, 09:22: Message edited by: The359 ]
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I TOLD you ALL Cleese would be called Q in this movie! HAH-HAH!

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How it ranks up to the other 36

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The other 36? What, Bond films? To my knowledge, this was the 20th (not 40th) film!
 

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Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
 
I saw this film last night and was blown away. I really like it. I'd put it in between TND and GoldenEye as well. However, I LOVE the new theme, especially the techno remix. Bond has been all about diffrent music (from Nancy Sinatra to Paul McCartney to Duran Duran) Maddonna is a welcome addition.

The whole film is a very diffrent movie then the previous Bond films, but I think it worked out.

By the way, the adaptive camo is a real technology. There is a vest that has been developed that produces a similar (less convincing, however) effect.


The OICW in the opening sequience was SWEET.
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 

"Anyway, James Bond, 007, back yet again for the 20th film..."

And yet they STILL WON'T STOP!
 

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
Yes, 16, sorry, not 36. I was writing that at 5am, brain not working, etc.

I forgot to mention something else that annoyed me. They'd throw this "fast-forwarding" effect in at different parts of the movie. Bad parts actually, where it wasn't really needed. I would rather have left the effect completely out of the film.

And I know the camoflauge is something being developed, but it'd never work like that, especially on a car.
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
This film is the worst of the Brosnan films. Good, but not better then Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies, and certainly not better then The World Is Not Enough.

PS: M is a real bitch.
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
The fact that Frost was a double agent was amazingly predictable. There was no other reason for her to be there. Five minute conversation spent assuring M she doesn't shag her colleagues, and 10 seconds after she next encounters Bond she's doing exactly just that.

There are a number of plot holes in this film: Colonel Moon becoming the next Richard Branson (the "Virgin guy," but with added solar-power-satellite-in-orbit) in 14 months for one. And the fact he's going to use it for a spot of mine-clearing and that's all.

But for all that it wasn't too bad. Certainly better than TND or TWINE, which were unmitigated shite.

It's sold us on the Vanquish, though. When we first saw the stunt car on Top Gear along with the XKR, we preferred the latter: now my wife wants an Aston Martin. 8)
 

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Posted by Nimpim (Member # 205) on :
 
I didn't like the way Jinx killed the doctor in the clinic, nor how she called the dying, stabbed Frost "bitch" when she was dying. Way too cold-blooded, she enjoyed it too much.

The british snob with his trained grin was irritating, and the swordfight and the heights it was taken to were way out of line for a quick bet. Anyone of them could've been killed at almost any point of the fight.

It was fun to see the appearance of the prominent Lawrence Makoare (Mr Kil, laser-in-the-mouth), he was the commanding Urukhai in Lord of the Rings, the one who lost his head.
 

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Posted by TheWoozle (Member # 929) on :
 
A friend is telling me that the matron of the fencing school was Madona in a cameo, I say NOT NOT. I'm right, aint I? Especially, not after that song.
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
You're kidding, right? Of course that was Madonna. My wife thought she looked awful, but then she is 45 now. . .
 

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
Yeah, that's Madonna. Here's a link to the credits for Die Another Day. Reportedly, Madonna got ticked at Pierce Bronson because, during the fencing segment, he started singing "Like a Virgin." Madonna thought he was "dissing" her. Apparently this little tidbit was a more important story on the evening news than a warehouse fire.
 

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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 

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Originally posted by Snay:
To my knowledge, this was the 20th (not 40th) film!

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Well, it's actually the 22nd, considering Never Say Never Again and the farcial Casino Royale. (I'd be inclined to forget about the latter entirely, but one should never discount Connery's fairly tolerable last hurrah as Bond...)

There was also that 1954 TV-telecast version of Casino Royale (quite different from the aforementioned 1967 film) but that wouldn't really count in my book.

-MMoM
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
IIRC, "Die Another Day" is the 20th MGM Bond film. Another company through some odd loophole got the rights to two of Flemming's books and made James Bond movies.

So, really, "Die Another Day" is the 20th not ripped off Bond

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The premises is alright, although I don't see how hard it could be to buy hovercraft anywhere in the world nowadays.

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The weapons aren't the hovercraft. The gun that Col. Moon uses to blow up the helicopter - the one with those titanium tipped whichevers - are the weapons that the Sierra Leone government (or rebels) are trying to trade diamonds for. They have to turn to Col. Moon to get weapons because no one else will deal with "conflict" diamonds.

The hovercraft are Moon's toy ... as he said, he can't "import" the weapons over the mine field in trucks or whatnot, because they'd blow up. Hovercraft, OTOH, can float over the mines ... so it's all good.
 

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
Ah, gotcha. I had no clue what Conflict Diamonds were, so I was in the dark there.

"Never Say Never Again" was produced by Warner Brothers the same year as "Octopussy", and was basically a rehash of "Thunderball". The only member of the regular Bond cast was Connery himself, who of course had already quit the series long ago. It's the illegitimate bastard child of the series, basically.
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I only have a passing familiarity with the situation out thataway, but I gather that's what was going on.
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 

"...I say NOT NOT. I'm right, aint I?"

Technically, but only because of the double negative.
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Q: "Now, pay attention 007: Nixpicker, standard issue. Do try to bring him back in one piece this time, Bond?"
Bond: "That's right Q, I won't."
Q: *sigh*
 

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
Don't let Moneypenny play with the Nixpicker...
 

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
A list of homages according to IMDB

In honor of the franchise's 40th anniversary, there is a visual or spoken reference to each of the previous 19 Bond films, including:
Dr. No (1962) - Jinx (Halle Berry) walking out of the sea in a bikini, wearing a white belt and a diving knife.
From Russia with Love (1963) - The shoe with the poison-tipped blade is seen in Q's station laboratory. There is a knife concealed in a briefcase. In the ice palace sequence, there is a game board (the chess match).
Goldfinger (1964) - Jinx is nearly cut with a laser in Mr. Kil's laboratory. The rest of the fight scene is also a tribute. Bond once again drives a gadget-laden Aston Martin, specifically with a passenger ejector seat. The new Q comments that, as he learned from his predecessor, "I never joke about my work, 007." The scene where Bond and Graves fence for money, only to see Bond up the stakes for one of Graves' diamonds, is suggestive of the golf match between Bond and Auric Goldfinger. The golf match had originally been for money, until Bond throws down a gold brick to "up the stakes".
Thunderball (1965) - the jet-pack in Q's workshop. Bond uses a pen-like underwater breathing system.
You Only Live Twice (1967) - Little Nellie can be seen in the background of Q's lab. Scenes of the Icarus unfolding in space are shown on screens in the Ice Palace. Jinx descends from the ceiling of the fake diamond mine on a rope system similar to that of the ninjas in the volcano crater lair. The name of the ship Bond is on: the HMS Tenby. The use of Japanese swords in the films.
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) - "OHMSS" written on a CD on Moneypenny's desk as she types a report at the end of the film. Bond escapes from another huge avalanche.
_Diamonds are Forever (1971)_ - while fencing with Bond, Graves says, "Well, diamonds are for everyone." Much of the plot includes diamonds. A large satellite is uncovered in space and has the power to harness the sun's rays and project them as a fine laser to destroy any given target. In a magazine ad for Gustav Graves' diamond company, the caption at the bottom says, "Diamonds are forever."
Live and Let Die (1973) - The laser causes row upon row of explosions across a vegetated area, in this case detonating thousands of land mines, and is reminiscent of the extermination of Kananga's poppy fields. Bond uses the same revolver used on the island of St. Monique.
Man with the Golden Gun, The (1974) - The corridors in the secret area of the Gene Technology department in the Cuban hospital contain rotating mirrors and objects, much like Scaramanga's Fun Palace. The Field office of MI6 is on a ship.
Spy Who Loved Me, The (1977) - Graves uses a Union Jack parachute. The Ice Palace resembles in some ways Stromberg's Atlantis hideout.
Moonraker (1979) - Moon's hovercraft falls down by a large waterfall in a manner similar to Jaws' boat going over the Igua�u Falls. Bond surfaces in a bubbling pool of water surrounded by much interior vegetation, similar to the scene with the water python in Drax's headquarters. Both movies have spies named Chang. Bond's sword fight with Graves was much like the fight with Chang in the glass factory. Bond and a villain fight over a parachute
For Your Eyes Only (1981) - The scene as Bond hangs onto the ice cliff (before it collapses) resembles the climax near the monastery, especially as the rope slips and Bond drops some distance further down the cliff, although this time it was all performed from a vehicle.
Octopussy (1983) - Both the crocodile submarine and the AcroStar MiniJet are visible in the background in Q's station laboratory.
View to a Kill, A (1985) - Bond is suspended over a cliff on the wire and hook much like the Russian Guard in the Siberian chase that Bond catches. Bond once again uses a rather unorthodox method of skiing, this time the hatch from the back of the car. Graves watches over the destruction that he wreaks from the front windows of his aircraft in the same way that Zorin watched Silicon Valley from his aircraft before it flooded.
Living Daylights, The (1987) - Cars exit the rear cargo hold of the plane.
_License to Kill (1989)_ - The plot idea of Bond going renegade, although this time it is less through choice. Bond uses a rifle as a sniper. M says, "License Revoked - the original title of License to Kill.
GoldenEye (1995) - Bond's watch contains a laser, which he uses to cut through a section of ice, reminiscent of his escape from the train by cutting through the floor. Jinx sets the timer for the bomb at the gene therapy lab in Cuba to three minutes, the same three minutes that Bond set the timers for in the chemical weapons lab and later Trevelyan set the timers for on the bullet train.
Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) - Jinx throws a knife straight into a guard's throat just as he comes through a door (this is similar to a scene on the Stealth Ship where Wai-Lin sticks a Shuriken throwing star into a guard's throat just as he finds her, but this scene is deleted from all Tomorrow Never Dies releases on VHS and DVD). Remote control car.
World Is Not Enough, The (1999) - Bond dives over Graves as they fence to do a forward roll as he lands, in a manner similar to the shoot-out between Renard's men and himself where he dives through a closing door and rolls the other side. As Bond dives to safety from Moon's flamethrower on the hovercraft, the shot of his dive from in front is almost identical to another scene where Bond is diving from an exploding bomb with Christmas. The use of a geodesic dome.
Some of the incidental music (minus of course the James Bond Theme, which is used in every film) is re-used in this film, notably at the end as Bond beds Jinx.
The cars Zao owns are all updated model of former Bond cars
Q mentions in his station laboratory as he hands Bond his new watch: "This is your twentieth, I believe." in a nod to this being the twentieth film occurring on the fortieth anniversary.
 

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Tenuous.

"In films 1-19, the lead character was also named James Bond, and was a spy."
 

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Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
"Bond uses the same revolver used on the island of St. Monique."

He hangs on to a large caliber revolver, true, but not the chromed, eight inch .44 Magnum from "Live and let die" ( a Smith&Wesson Model 29, same as Dirty Harry, who made it famous in 1971, Live and let Die came in -73).
 

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Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
Wait, I thought Graves owned the updated cars that Bond used in the past. And what cars do you refer to?
 

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Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
 
I thought it was an alright movie. IMHO they still have yet to top GoldenEye. Did anyone else find Miranda Frost to be a little "Whore-ish"? Damn she was skanky. Of course the best two parts were the car scene, and the sword battles (i loves swords). As for the song, I didn't think it was that bad. I think "The World is Not Enough" song was pretty good. The "Q" (or "R", whatever) scene was pretty lame. They definitely could have done better.
 

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
The crs that Colonel Moon/Graves had were a Porsche 911 GT2 (blown up by that gun), Ferrari 550 Maranello, classic Ford GT40, Ferrari F335, Lamborghini Diablo, and they were using Land Rover Range Rovers for Graves and his men at the ice hotel. Among the cars in the parking lot were a Jaguar XK8, Volvo S80, and a handful of other Ford products. Bond hasn't driven any of these.
 

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Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
Well, in that case, how stupid of them to leave out the Lotus Esprit from "The spy who loved/shagged/drugged me".
 

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Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
I'm not as mad as what happend to the Col. car's as to what Bond did to his Aston Martin.
 

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
Would you rather he do something like he did with the BMW Z8 in The World Is Not Enough?
 

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Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
Heaven forbid...
 

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Yes, heaven!
 

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Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
That Helicopter-turned-lawnmower scene would just have to be the most stupid and poorly contemplated scene in all the Bond movies!! I dare you to name something cornier!

My two favs as of now: Goldfinger and The spy Who Loved Me.
Many hate George Lazenby but In Her Majesty's Secret Service is special to me as it was the first Bond-movie I saw, back when I was 9.

[ December 01, 2002, 02:36: Message edited by: Nimrod Pimding ]
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Well, I have just seen it and I think it ranks as the second best Brosnan film (after Goldeneye) and one of the best altogehter (Goldeneye 1, Goldfinger 2, then it all gets jumbled...). There's plenty of action, yes, and cheesy FX all around, but it's solid entertainment. Halle Berry is good as an un-stereotypical Bond Girl. Plus, it's nice to see a villian has a car as good as Bond's.

The best parts: Q, of course, and the end of the movie with Moneypenny. Classic!
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Double post. Heh heh.

[ November 29, 2002, 20:33: Message edited by: Veers ]
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Here's what I don't get ... Col Moon/Graves was presumed dead, and in reality was in Cuba getting that "transplant" surgery when the transmission from the prison naming the American agent was sent. Presumeably, this was sent by one of Moon/Graves' agents in an effort to secure Xao's release by trading Bond.

But Xao was a prisoner of either the Americans or the British. And Moon/Graves was in Cuba. And the prison seemed to be under the watch of General Moon. Given Moon's surprise at his son's plans, it seems unlikely he knew that his son had a mole in MI-6.

So what does that leave us? Another high-ranking officer in the prison (probably the female interragator -- even within the prison, she wouldn't want the lower ranking torturers finding out she had a Western source ... might've tipped the government off to the planned coup), most likely.

Or ... that Bond actually DID crack ...
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Or that the movie was designed to make money, not sense.
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
No one's putting a gun to your head forcing you to post in this thread, TSN.
 

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
*hides the gun*

Right, sure, no one is holding a gun to his head...
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 

"No one's putting a gun to your head forcing you to post in this thread, TSN."

Well, no-one put a gun to your head and blew your brains out, but they apparently still managed to escape somehow...
 

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Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
 
I went to see it on Friday; quite good, I thought although not the best. The sword fights were very good as was the car chase. I wasn't that keen on halle Berry though; her character seemed to be lacking something. Overall, very good fun (although not the most believable storyline ever, even for a Bond film).
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 

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but they apparently still managed to escape somehow

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Originally posted by Sol System:
("Flick?" That's a kind of strange word for a film.)

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It's derived from "flicker," which is what projected film did in the early days.

I'd also say that Die Another Day is Brosnan's second best, after Goldeneye. I wasn't too impressed with Tomorrow Never Dies, and while I liked The World Is Not Enough, I didn't like it quite as much as this one. Overall, I'd say Brosnan is the one I'd have to call my "least favorite" Bond, even though I think they still haven't made a bad choice for an actor to play the role. (I even enjoy George Lazenby! )

-MMoM
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
How you can like Roger Moore and Tim Dalton over Brosnan is completely beyond me.
 

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
The Spy Who Loved Me is the greatest James Bond movie EVER!
 

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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 

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Originally posted by Siegfried:
The Spy Who Loved Me is the greatest James Bond movie EVER!

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It's up there, but there are a couple others that top it. (Thunderball being among them.)

In my book:
(from "best" to "worst," though as I said I don't really DISLIKE any of them)
1. Sean Connery
2. Roger Moore
3. Timothy Dalton
4. George Lazenby
5. Pierce Brosnan

-MMoM

[ December 06, 2002, 20:26: Message edited by: The Mighty Monkey of Mim ]
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Right, I still don't get how you rank Dalton and Moore above Brosnan. I just don't get it.
 

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
I know lots of people who just hate Brosnan's Bond.
 

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Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
Well, I liked GoldenEye a lot, partly because Sean Bean was one hell of a Bond Villain! Very refined and singleminded, good solid motives and hatred to base his choices on.
I respected the character. His last line, it was just spot-on.

That grey-haired media magnate and this new Grey, they're just charicatures of villains, sneering and snickering.

Also, Xenia Onatopp was such a superbly vile hench(wo)man that my gf on many occasions exclaimed her hatred for the character. I teasingly remind her about Xenia now and then.

Also, I like rugged battletanks. :-)

And of course, the last Q-scene of all time, with the inflating phonebooth and ejecting office-chair, jolly good old british fun.

About Die Some Other Day, there were three distinctly british car brands in it. Aston Martin, Jaguar and a third one. Which was it? I forget. Lovely specimens, btw.
 

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
Land Rover. Ford owns all three of them and had exclusive rights to all the cars in the movie (except the Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and Porsches that Moon had).
 

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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 

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Originally posted by Snay:
Right, I still don't get how you rank Dalton and Moore above Brosnan. I just don't get it.

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Well, see, it's really quite simple:
-I think Roger Moore plays a good Bond.
-I think Timothy Dalton plays a good Bond as well.
-I also think Pierce Brosnan plays a decent Bond, just not so much as the above.

There. See, it all makes sense now, doesn't it???

-MMoM
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 

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the last Q-scene of all time,

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