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Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
I thought of putting this in Gen. Scifi, but I felt it would fit better here.

I am an old fan of Macross/Robotech, and I found these posable, non-transformable 7.5-inch action figures of their "Veritech Fighters"
on "Robotoys.com".

http://www.robotoys.com/cgi-bin/ams/shopzone30.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=610&p_catid=49

The manufacturer is Toynami, they cost 17.95$ a piece, I am thinking of buying two (the VF-1S and the blue VF-1J).
The shipping to Sweden costs 37.50$ alone, so the total amount, excluding additional swedish import fees, would be 73.40$.

Not to mention they want me to e-mail photos of everything from my VISA-card to the fillings of my fuck**g teeth.

Do any of you hotshots know any better, cheaper way of getting these two little things into Sweden?
Without buying used products?

This na�ve swede is open to all suggestions, see I'm afraid these particular Robotech Figures will be taken off the market soon and replaced
by the second series of Robotech-figures which have a bunch of bulky extra armor and jetpacks welded on,
making them more rigid and a bit uglier IMO.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Your new title makes negative sense.
 
Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
Happy now?
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
You are altering my perceptions of reality!
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Gah!
 
Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
I can't even make up my mind, don't ask me to make yours.
 
Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
There, I won't touch it further now. You have my word.
 
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
 
Are those the Japanese rip-offs of Transformers?
 
Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
No, there's no AI in these things. They are vehicles, not robots.
And there's more blood and loss and less megalomaniacal laughing.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Can you have someone in a different country buy them and send them to you?
 
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
 
Hey, cool. Those things remind me of the Land-Air-Mechs from Battletech. Whether or not FASA copied Veritech when they created them I do not know. Kinda seems like they did though. I wouldn't really be surprised.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by akb1979:
Are those the Japanese rip-offs of Transformers?

Yes. Except for the fact that Macross has been around since the 70s (I believe).

Also, er, you do realise where the original Transformer toys came from, don't you?

Nimmy: I think Worlds Apart in Liverpool might have them. Let me check the price and I'll get back to you.
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
Diaclone toys are crazy go nuts.
 
Posted by Nimrod Pimding (Member # 205) on :
 
Psyliam: I would very much appreciate that, thanks!

DaBang: If you feel that way, I think you'll be interested in this little tidbit, an enemy (Zentraedi) command battle pod, from some of the first episodes of Robotech/Macross:
http://www.robotech.com/infopedia/mecha/viewmecha.php?id=37

That design remind you of anything?
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I have not gone into town yet, for I am lazy.

I want Jetfire, damnit!
 
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
 
Time for some facts, kiddies! [Big Grin]

Gundam started the real giant robot craze in 1978, even though there had been series around in Japan a long time before then.

Superdimension (Space)Fortress Macross debuted in 1982, the same year that Takara released a toy series called Diaclone (or Diacrone, for an inflexible reading of the kana).

Incidental aside. Around this same time, the Superdimension "trilogy" of three unrelated series also included Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Superdimension Century Orguss. And around the same time, again, there was a show and toy line called Genesis Climber M.O.S.P.E.A.D.A.

The common thread through all of these and more (like Gundam 0083) was giant robots controlled by human pilots. No AI.

Hasbro and Marvel collaborated to import most of Takara's Diaclone line and some of the toys from other lines (like Microman) as sentient alien robots called Transformers. The comic debuted in the late Spring of 1984, and the cartoon followed next September.

Carl Macek wanted to import Macross, but it didn't have enough episodes for American syndication. So he looked at the other contemporary offerings in Japan and selected Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber MOSPEADA to padd the episode count. Then he wrote a completely new storyline to tie together all three series into one epic multigenerational story arc. The show was called Robotech, due to contractual obligations with the Revell model company that wanted the show as publicity for its Robotech Defenders line of model kits (imported anime kits from several different series). It debuted in 1985.

And yes, FASA lifted a BUNCH of dairobo ("giant robot") designs without permission. The list -- near as I can recall -- runs as follows:

MACROSS--
•"Stinger" (VF-1A)
•"Wasp" (VF-1S)
•"Phoenix Hawk" (Super VF-1S)
•"Crusader" (Armored VF-1S)
•"Ostscout", "Ostroc", and "Ostsol" (modified Battle Pods)
•"Marauder" (Officer's Battle Pod)
•"Warhammer" (Excalibur Destroid in the American version, Tomahawk in the Japanese)
•"Archer" (Gladiator Destroid in the American version, Spartan in the Japanese)
•"Rifleman" (Raidar-X Destroid in the American version, Defender in the Japanese)
•"Longbow" (Phalanx Destroid)
•And the three LAMs were the transformable versions of the VF-1A, VF-1S, and Super VF-1S...

DOUGRAM--
•"Shadow Hawk" (Dougram title mecha)
•"Wolverine"
•"Thunderbolt"
•"Battlemaster"
•"Griffin"
•"Scorpion"
•"Goliath"

CRUSHER JOE--
•"Locust"

What else d'ya need to know?

--Jonah
 


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