Yeah, you'll win this time. Forget Norway.
Posted by Nim the Fanciful (Member # 205) on :
I've been meaning to ask, is that the official team patch for england? Three lions on top of eachother? (King George, Edward and Arthur?) And I thought England's sportscolor was white with a red cross?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I have no idea what the lions are for, but yes, that's what the football and cricket teams wear. The rugby lot have the English rose on them.
England's home kits tend to be white. The football one used to be just white with blue shorts, but there is now red on the top too, in a vaguely cross shaped pattern.
The badgers are wearing the away kit. Which is worn when the home team have a kit the same colour as yours, obviously. The away kit is red, and is often considered better, since that's the kit we wore when we won the world cup roughly four centuries ago.
Home kit, worn by sexy Michael Owen. Away kit, with accompanying scary pictures.
[ June 04, 2004, 12:27 PM: Message edited by: PsyLiam ]
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim the Fanciful: I've been meaning to ask, is that the official team patch for england? Three lions on top of eachother? (King George, Edward and Arthur?)
The three lions are just the traditional symbol for England, like the thistle is for Scotland and the sheep is for Wales.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
The thistle is the official flower for Scotland, like the rose is for England. I have no idea why we have multiple symbols though.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Uh... because prior to the Act of Union in 1707 England and Scotland were seperate countries... (although we'd had the same monarch since the death of Elizabeth I).
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
No, I meant why England has multiple symbols - the rose and the three lions. Other countries don't seem to have that. (Correted a typo in my earlier post).
Isn't the lion the official England animal (or whatever the term is)? Might explain why there are three lions on the badge. And a lion would beat a rubbish eagle any day of the week. Although the Welsh animal would probably win overall. Damnit.
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
quote: No, I meant why England has multiple symbols [SNIP]
AFAIK:
The three lions, or possibly leopards, goes back to William the Bastard & that whole Hastings business in 1066.
Edward III quartered them with the French royal arms (three gold fluer de lis on a blue background) in the mid-14th century, to represent his claim to the French throne. This was in use at least until the end of the Hundred Years War.
The rose dates from that little pissing contest between Lancaster and York at the end of the 15th century over which great-great-nephew's cousin of some guy who died of old age a hundred years earlier had a bigger claim to the throne.
AFAIK, the rose never stood for England proper, just for Lancaster (white) and York (red). And then for the short-lived-but-so-entertaining Tudor/Elizabethan dynasty, which came into existance by way of some yahoo nobody marrying the last surviving widow of the above pissing contest, and getting crowned Henry VII. Or some such.
Again, that's AFAIK.
Marian
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Englanders take their "football" weirdly.
"Matches in Which England Wore the 2003 Home White Uniform"
OK!
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
You are all... weirdos.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ultra Magnus: Englanders take their "football" weirdly.
"Matches in Which England Wore the 2003 Home White Uniform"
OK!
I never said that the site wasn't run by nerds.
Posted by Nim the Fanciful (Member # 205) on :
Psyliam: "The badgers are wearing the away kit. Which is worn when the home team have a kit the same colour as yours, obviously."
Well, obviously.
About differing national symbols, Sweden has both the gryphon (originally the Scanian coat of arms) and the three crowns, Tre Kronor. Originally a likeness of the three wise men, it came to represent the union of the three states that went together during the 1300's; Sweden, Norway and Scania (Sk�ne). The gold and blue of our country colors are older, though, stretching back to the 1000-1100's, when the Eriks married to the throne and united the country against the invading danes.
Well, we won and now we buy nice Dell computers through Copenhagen, who get nice percentage, everybody happy.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"...some guy who died of old age a hundred years earlier..."
That would be the same Edward III you mentioned earlier.
"...some yahoo nobody marrying the last surviving widow of the above pissing contest, and getting crowned Henry VII. Or some such."
Well, that, and he offed the previous king.
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
Originally posted by TSN:
quote: That would be the same Edward III you mentioned earlier.
Actually, I had John of Gaunt in mind, but whatever.
quote: Well, that, and he offed the previous king.
Of course. He couldn't marry the last surviving widow until she was the last surviving widow, right?
And if I recall correctly, she was a widow of both sides, by virtue of two different marriages. But I don't remember who it was. Elizabeth of Woodstock? Not Anne Neville, surely.
Marian
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Apparently, he was married to Elizabeth, daughter of Edward IV (sister of Edward V, and niece of Richard III). Henry himself was descended from both Edward III and the widow of Henry V.
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
That would not be Elizabeth of Woodstock, then, who was married to Edward IV and therefore unlikely to be his daughter.
Marian
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Do you have to learn this stuff as school, or have you boned up just in case it comes up in a quiz?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, I don't know about her, but I've got a book on the shelf next to me about the history of the British monarchy. I picked it up used for a couple bucks a year or two ago. It makes for good reference material when the subject comes up, I suppose.
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
quote: Do you have to learn this stuff as school, or have you boned up just in case it comes up in a quiz?
I'm just that cool.
Marian
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
"Well, I don't know about her, but I've got a book on the shelf next to me about the history of the British monarchy. I picked it up used for a couple bucks a year or two ago. It makes for good reference material when the subject comes up, I suppose."
ONCE EVER. GO OUTSIDE.
Posted by Tora Ziyal (Member # 53) on :
Am I the only one who doesn't get the badger thing? Or are you not supposed to get it?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"ONCE EVER. GO OUTSIDE."
Already have done. Next request, please.
"Or are you not supposed to get it?"
I'm not sure that there is anything to get. It's just badgers. They bounce.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
First there was the original animation, concerning badgers, snakes and mushrooms. It was very popular. What the animator's motivation was we'll never know. Now, however, he's decided to do a new version in support of England's participation in Euro 2004. It's just a pity Beckham chose not to go from his cornrows to a badger-influenced hairstyle, but just shaved his head instead. . .
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Do you have to learn this stuff as school, or have you boned up just in case it comes up in a quiz?
I have to learn it in school! Bloody Tudor State exam... I could tell you all about it in excruciating detail. But I can't be arsed.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Good, because we couldn't be arsed to read it either. B)
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
Originally posted by Wraith:
quote:I have to learn it in school! Bloody Tudor State exam... I could tell you all about it in excruciating detail. But I can't be arsed.
Well, seeing as how it's Tudor State and all...
Marian
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cartman: Good, because we couldn't be arsed to read it either. B)
Well, how lucky our interests coincide...
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
Operating from complete ignorance, Tudor State could be the next bug hit Aaron Spelling sheltered-youths-coming-to-grips-with-the-brutalities-of-society show. Like the others. Only more pasty.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
TV & Pizza have ruined this generation.
Posted by Nim the Fanciful (Member # 205) on :
The way I got it explained to me, it was submission to Zion world order and lewdness among the fairer sex that ruined this generation. And tabloids. Mustn't forget the tabloids. Sporks and kroft dinner is in there somewhere too.
No, according to better judgement we should all become goat herders and sand people, that way we live off the land, conserving resources and moisture and bother no one except filthy dew-farmers, as is our wont.
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
Is it just me, or did the pizza thing jump threads?
Marian
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
HOW DARE IT?
Posted by Nim the Fanciful (Member # 205) on :
I think I know a certain 'mule' who might've carried it in his fetid bowels across the Rio, as it were...
How do you plead, huevo?
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
My bowels are my own.
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
That doesn't rule out some kind of leasing arrangement. Um, Nim, did you just call him an egg?
Marian
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
You can take the Swede out of the cult, but you can't take the cult out of the Swede. . . 8)
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Careful. You're already on his hitlist over that Ikea thing. B)
Posted by Nim the Fanciful (Member # 205) on :
You forgot the s. No matter, and all good things cum to he who waits. T-minus 59 days.
Lee: "You can take the Swede out of the cult, but you can't take the cult out of the Swede. . ."
Lee, if you were any other man...
MarianLH: Well he sounded like one.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Dude, so is Peter Forsberg playing for MODO next year?
I would so totally dick that dude.
Posted by Capped in Mike (Member # 709) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim the Fanciful: sand people, that way we live off the land, conserving resources and moisture and bother no one except filthy dew-farmers, as is our wont.
<3
Posted by Nim the Fanciful (Member # 205) on :
Utah Magnus: Some people believed so, but he has decided he'll stay with Colorado and the NHL for one more year, Stanley Cup coming up. He said it might be his last season, too. Tommy Salo will go to Modo, though.
So, you find Foppa spongeworthy?
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Foppa is my best boy ever.
Tommy Salo is no great loss.
Aebischer is capable, and Sauve can step up.
I am trying to get my dirty, clawlike hands on a Peter Forsberg National Team jersey, though I am unsure of either blue or yellow.
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