A whole range of "love of money" jokes opens up here: Judge rules paper money unfair to blind Judge James Robertson, in a ruling on a suit by the American Council of the Blind, ordered the Treasury to devise a method to tell bills apart. Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
First the bees now this. I'm convinced, my country has been bitten by the retard bug.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
This country bio-engineered the Retard Bug (Insecta Retardicus Maximus) and then proceeded to elect, idolize, and employ the teachings of all individuals infected by its bite.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shik: Judge James Robertson, in a ruling on a suit by the American Council of the Blind, ordered the Treasury to devise a method to tell bills apart.
Ooh Ooh! I know how! Braille!!!
Well there's a big fat no fuckin duh...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"First the bees now this. I'm convinced, my country has been bitten by the retard bug."
I'm confused. Neither of those stories reflects particularly poorly on the US. And, what bees? (Never mind. I just got to the thread about the bees.)
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I've seen related stories from blind people on both sides, some saying agreeing that a change was needed, others saying it's a waste of time.
My question is what, if anything, do other countries do about it? I did find a partial answer in one article:
quote:Lawyers for the American Council of the Blind have pushed their case by arguing that of the over 180 countries around the world that issue paper currency, only the United States prints bills that are identical in size and colour in all denominations.
Euro bank notes, for example, are printed in differently sized denominations, while the Swiss Franc contains intaglio digits and a perforated numeral that can be identified by touch.
I don't see the color being an issue to anyone, but I doubt the Treasury will change the sizes, since that would force the retooling of all the ATMs, vending machines, etc. Anything they do will have to be usable by the current machines.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Likewise, embossing (braille) would wear down afer time, making it useless. Though, I don't know about perforations... I wonder if they would also wear out, causing the bill to tear along the holes, or widening over time.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Well, the average lifespan of a dollar bill is only about 18 months before it gets offered as a sacrifice to the Mint gods.
Just another reason for them to do away with currency altogether and implant a credit/identification/number-of-the-beast chip in everyone.
There was an article published by a legally blind attorney from Sacramento concerning detectable warnings at intersections. He ran the numbers and found that the city of Sacramento would have to spend over $10K per blind person residing in the city to upgrade all the curb cuts to meet the accessibility standards set by the ADAAG. He basicly called it a waste of money and suggested that if you asked the 'visually impaired' residents, they would desire a more beneficial use of those funds than detectable warnings.
Posted by Doctor Jonas (Member # 481) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Likewise, embossing (braille) would wear down afer time, making it useless.
It doesn't necessarily have to be embossed. It could be with relief print, which is the way they do it on Argentine Pesos, though not with Braille, but with a series of symbols, different for each denomination.
Posted by Chris (Member # 71) on :
The new bills here in Canada have braille on them. I think its braille, anyways. Some sort of raised bumps to help distinguish the bills.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
For today...
MC Hawking lays the smack, BIOTCHES. Humans must colonize planets in other solar systems traveling there using "Star Trek"-style propulsion or face extinction, renowned British cosmologist Stephen Hawking said on Thursday.
SMS dating. Match-making companies are creating new services that allow people to post their dating profile online and then automatically receive a text message on a GPS-enabled phone when a match is nearby, say, at a coffee shop around the corner. Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
They've got a poll on that first page: "Do you agree with Stephen Hawking that humans should colonize planets in other solar systems?" Personally, I'm amazed that 16% said no. I'll be sure to direct the next asteroid their way.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
They will make tasty soylent green biscuits.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Hawking needs to invent the Apathy Drive- it would be the fastest thing ever, but of course, no one would have enough intrest to build it so...
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
"The only thing known to science faster than the speed of light is Mrs. Grundy's gossip." --Ira Johnson, To Sail Beyond The Sunset Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Oh My God... And I thought things couldn't get any wierder than $6,000 mail order sex dolls...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Next step, iPod powered guns.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
It'll make for a kinder gentler machine gun hand.
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Woah... well this should motivate more porn to be ported to the iPod. Next up, a USB powered version for computers followed by the iFist and iHand.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Not an incredibly useful product, though, is it? More of a novelty. I mean, when one is in the mental state one is normally in during the use of such a product, is one really going to care what rhythm it's vibrating in? Hardly worth the extra money for a difference you're not even going to notice.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mikey T: Woah... well this should motivate more porn to be ported to the iPod. Next up, a USB powered version for computers followed by the iFist and iHand.
They do have porn that can be ported to those iPods that can play videos, the only thing is that you won't find them on itunes.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ritten: It'll make for a kinder gentler machine gun hand.
100 points to Ritten!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Those are some pretty craptacular robbers, if they're scared off by a four-year-old in padded tights.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
TSN:
quote:Hardly worth the extra money for a difference yu're not even going to notice.
Un connoisseur de f�p! This man speaks gospel. Man the pumps!
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
I got the iBrator from a friend and frankly it is worthless, hell I've had better. They should have named it iVibe but I'm sure Vibe Magazine would sue them or market their own version in XXL form.
It is funny to see people look at me taking it out and attaching it to the iPod video though.
And who the hell does SMS dating? I guess people are really getting desperate if they want to know who is in fuckable range in the club they are in. Geez...
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I think that the money would be better spent, I dunno, maybe building houses, schools, hospitals, and running water. But hey, I guess I'm not as smart as they are...
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"I got the iBrator from a friend and frankly it is worthless..."
Yes, I imagine the compatibility problems with your iPort must be a real pain.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
"Over 1,200 volunteers from the length and breadth of the country..."
Intentional or not, I wonder.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I always wondered why there were so many rich Indian doctors around. They're compensating...
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Also why the country has over 1 billion people!
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Probably the reason all the other Asian countries are overpopulated as well. Those poor guys. I guess there's a reason to be glad I'm an average white guy.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
And to follow THAT up...we have THIS little goody. Could one be related to the other?
Posted by Chris (Member # 71) on :
S/he looks awful manly...
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Did anyone think to peek up her skirt? Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Funny I never heard of a gender test before this...well aside from "if you show me yours I'll show you mines."
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: Did anyone think to peek up her skirt?
Based on 'her" overall looks, I'd say the answer was a big "NO".
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
That's what I thought, can't really blame them though. I wouldn't want to look under there.
Posted by Chris (Member # 71) on :
Also, wasn't this a movie?
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Movie? What are you smokin? Movie stars are supposed to be sexy, not sexually confused. or ugly, well, sometimes ugly if the plot demands it. But there's always a sexy one to keep the guys interested. Especially if there aren't any explosions or gun battles or car chases.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Never heard of the "The Crying Game"?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Heh Heh, I remember that scene.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: Funny I never heard of a gender test before this...well aside from "if you show me yours I'll show you mines."
It's actually standard for the Olympics after (I believe) some thing about the Bulgarians smuggling men onto the women's shotput team or some such. Well, who can tell with Bulgarians?
As I recall, the only person not demanded to subject themselves to a gender test was Princess Anne.
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
Royal Olympians. How hot is that?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Well, if you find Princess Anne to be your bag, then sure...
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
More than nine out of 10 Americans, men and women alike, have had premarital sex, according to a new study. The high rates extend even to women born in the 1940s, challenging perceptions that people were more chaste in the past.
Later on: "The data clearly show that the majority of older teens and adults have already had sex before marriage, which calls into question the federal government's funding of abstinence-only-until-marriage programs for 12- to 29-year-olds," Finer said
Visions of the status of robots around 2056 have emerged from one of 270 forward-looking papers sponsored by Sir David King, the UK government�s chief scientist. The paper covering robots� rights was written by a UK partnership of Outsights, the management consultancy, and Ipsos Mori, the opinion research organisation. Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
...and they didn't publish that first one while I could have used it for my term paper for one of my classes this term...
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by WizArtist II: From India to Britain
just to keep up with a theme...
yuck
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: From Britain to Japan.
double yuck Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Visions of the status of robots around 2056 have emerged from one of 270 forward-looking papers sponsored by Sir David King, the UK government�s chief scientist. The paper covering robots� rights was written by a UK partnership of Outsights, the management consultancy, and Ipsos Mori, the opinion research organisation.
...and R2-D2 and C-3P0 will be able to get married at last.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
"I say R2....what are you doing with that probe?.....R2!!!!!"
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
From Japan to PERU That just ain't right.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
And now we know the origins of Charles Capps Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Now, what I'm wondering is : Just how much sex-with-five-year-olds was going on in that area at that time, such that the one girl in (hundreds of?) millions who happened to hit puberty at age 0.75 also just happened to get knocked up?
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Uh... A lot?
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
With everything else that was wonky with that girl's biochemistry, what are the chances for parthenogenesis?
"Blaming the families of abuse victims who were solicited online, as some have done, is a cynical excuse that ignores the fact that social networking sites can lead to heinous abuse by Internet predators."
Berating people who blame the families of abuse victims who were solicited online, as some have done, is a bullshit excuse that ignores that fact that maybe parents should go back to being responsible for their own damn children.
So your kids got raped. That sucks. But it's not the fucking Internet's fault.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN:
"Blaming the families of abuse victims who were solicited online, as some have done, is a cynical excuse that ignores the fact that social networking sites can lead to heinous abuse by Internet predators."
Berating people who blame the families of abuse victims who were solicited online, as some have done, is a bullshit excuse that ignores that fact that maybe parents should go back to being responsible for their own damn children.
So your kids got raped. That sucks. But it's not the fucking Internet's fault.
QFT!
I've been saying for years (Just not on this forum) that people need to take responsibility for the fruit of their loins. Just this summer my motorcycle was kicked over by a 9 year old girl, when I caught her and took her to confront her parents, her dad said and I quote: "It's not my fault, I didn't even know she was out."
Yeah, you're kids out at 3 am vandalizing other peoples property, and you didn't know she was out? Great parenting skills you deadbeat moron.
Posted by LOA (Member # 49) on :
My thought when I read the internet article today is that had those kids not met someone on MySpace, it could have been an AOL chat room, a Yahoo! Forum, or any other such place. I mean, come on... MySpace is not the spawn of all evil. As Tim said, parents need to do just that - be parents.
Where were they when their kids were arranging these online meetings anyway? Just a thought...
It's a horrible thing that happened, yes, but blaming the administrator of MySpace for the fact that Mommy and Daddy aren't monitoring Suzy's internet usage bother's me on MANY levels.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
No body is responsible for anything until something bad happens. Then everyone else but the recipient of the "Bad Things, Man" is instantly responsible and of course liable for not preventing the occurance in the first place.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: [QUOTE]Originally posted by TSN: [qb]
I've been saying for years (Just not on this forum) that people need to take responsibility for the fruit of their loins. Just this summer my motorcycle was kicked over by a 9 year old girl, when I caught her and took her to confront her parents, her dad said and I quote: "It's not my fault, I didn't even know she was out."
What a freakn' moron!?! Ummmm aren't Parents held responsible for the acts of their children until they turn 16 or 17?? When they cease to be a 'minor'?
Yeah, you're kids out at 3 am vandalizing other peoples property, and you didn't know she was out? Great parenting skills you deadbeat moron.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Yeah, they are, though I think it's 18 in Canada. Oh well, he paid me a couple hundred dollars to keep the incident out of court. Which was much more than the cost for repairs since I did it myself. Heh heh heh. Do I feel bad? No, should I?
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
No.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Do I feel bad? No, should I?"
For the kid, maybe.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Well if the kid gets a bit of discipline - it might be a good thing. What the fuck was a 9 year old doing out anyway? Unless it was in their backyard or at the very least with some neighbours.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I wish I could tell you. She lived in the apartment complex just down the street from my house. And there's always kids out late at night around here. Usually walking around in groups causing trouble, getting into fights and so on.
Working nights at the 7-11, kids wandering around at 3am isn't uncommon. We usually just called the police to come and take them home.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
WAY TO GO DOUCHEBAGS.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Why would he have to pay the tax, wouldn't the company be the one to pay?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, only if they want to. As the article mentions, some contest sponsors will provide money for the winner's taxes, but, of course, that just increases the amount of the prize, which increases the amount of taxes.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I don't know whether to laugh at the dumb bird, or be mad at the people who unwittingly caused the whole problem.
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Are eagles eddible?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I'm suprised no one at Cartoon Network thought that maybe leaving a bunch of box-shaped objects on public infrastructure may not be the smartest thing.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
They really need to stop using the word "hoax". It implies some intent to deceive. Just because you assume that a thing is something other than what it is, that doesn't mean anyone was trying to make you think that.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Deceived by the Mooninites- definitely bad. I could so see Chertoff and Negroponte in "Moon Master" costumes.
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
Needs more quad laser.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote: oh god! has the world gone mad? A help line for the death of a book character!!!!??? I honestly can't fathom the stupidity.
QFGDMFT!
Yeah, sure I was a little suprised/saddened by the death of Chewbacca in Vector Prime, but a help line for a Harry Potter book? I sure hope Rowling pays for it herself. I'd hate to think of some poor shmucks tax money going to help all those little kiddies who can't distinguish reality from a book.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
I don't know about you guys, but quite a few of the police around here aren't as fastidious about obeying traffic laws. I've seen the flip thier lights on and cruise through a red light just because they don't want to wait. I've seen them make rolling stops at signs, failing to signal when making a turn, speeding, etc. All the things we normal drivers would get ticketed for. It's bad enough when I'm out riding to see someone zip through a red light because they don't want to wait 3 minutes. But when it's a policeman it's even worse. They're supposed to be the ones setting an example for the rest of us.
I have to applaud this guy for actually setting a good example. And I hope the officers under his guidance follow it.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Timothy Michael Seibert was in the midst of raping a 49-year-old woman, according to police, when he answered a cell phone call from his wife. Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Wow, this guy wins the award for scumbag of the year.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well not quite like growing back a missing arm but it does make you wonder.
He should just plead that it's a Klingon mating thing.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
That Earhart Mystery article was good, especially that one lady's account of receiving a shortwave radio call which possibly came from Earhart. Creepy.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
It's a bit worrying, the apparent sheer incompetency of the search for Earhart. "We've got radio signals. There's a ship two days away? Nah, send the one that's four days off. Surely nothing could happen to them in the meantime." "Look, someone seems to have been living on this island. Can't see anyone now, though? Oh, well, must be nothing, then." "You heard a radio signal that started 'this is Amelia Earhart'? How's that relevant?"
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
If she was better looking, they'd have searched harder.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Except, TSN, they never reached land. All of the islands within the region were searched. There was one where stuff was found, but it was from someone else, years earlier, whose shoes were way too small to ever fit her feet, etc.
The Coast Guard ship that was waiting on-station heard her radio messages, but either something had broken or she accidentally had her receiver turned off, because she wasn't hearing anything they sent. Signal strength showed she was about eight miles away from the ship at closest approach. The radioman even went out on deck briefly, to see if he could see or hear the plane.
Odds are they got their heading screwed up by the storm they flew through, misidentified an island they saw after clearing, and so didn't correct, and ended up running out of fuel and splashing down less than a hundred miles North of their target. The search area is narrowing.
--Jonah
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"The Coast Guard ship that was waiting on-station heard her radio messages, but either something had broken or she accidentally had her receiver turned off, because she wasn't hearing anything they sent."
That's when she was still flying. According to the article, people in the States were hearing messages from her after she disappeared, and they were ignored.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Which is, unfortunately, impossible to document reliably. In 1937 there were no unalterable computer timestamps to prove when a message was received. I want to trust these people, but I also know how far people will go to get on the news. At this stage of the game, petty recriminations won't find her, so those accounts can be noted with interest and then backburnered until the Electra is found. Then see if the details match any of the physical evidence.
They left New Guinea and ran into a storm, which forced them to fly low and burn more fuel, and they had a headwind the entire rest of the leg, further reducing fuel efficiency and potentially throwing off Fred's position estimate. The account of the Itasca radioman is pretty fascinating, too.
In the end, her plane probably ditched less than twenty miles North of where the Itasca was anchored.
Moral: Wait for the weather to totally clear when doing risky flying. And carry redundant safety gear, weight be damned.
--Jonah
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Bah! Everyone knows she's on ice in the Delta Quadrant!
I see a Flare Roadtrip in the future...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I'll get the shuttlecraft ready.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I must be missing something in that profile of Chris Dodd, because I don't get it.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
:::sighs::: I guess I have to kill the funny.
# Military Career: U.S. House of Representatives, 1975-81 # Previous Elective Office: None
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
HAPPY CHERNOBYL DAY!!
That's right, everyone's favorite reactor accident is 21 years young today! So let's get it all a bottle of your favorite vodka & raise a glass! Remember, it's fantastic radiation protection!
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I get a warm, fuzzy feeling.
Also, Shatner Art. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Thta fuzzy feeling is his toupee. On your balls, baby! Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
That first pic reminds me of Medival art before the Italians rediscovered perspective.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Happy McCondom Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Did she want fries with that shake?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I'm not sure what's worse : the fact that they felt they needed to contact the media about it, or the fact that the media felt it was worth reporting.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
An opened condom in a happy meal - I'd be contacting SOMEONE.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Was it the condom that was "unsealed" or the sportsbag that held it (leading to the condom "somehow" getting into the girl's happy meal)?
My initial reaction was "scam", but I guess not.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
It said that the condom was out of it's packet.
Posted by LOA (Member # 49) on :
The day is supposed to be here finally.....
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Stephen Hawking did seven turns in the "vomit comet" for a few minutes of zero-G. First time he's been able to move himself around in over 40 years. The company doing the ride comped the whole thing- very cool of them.
And from the extreme non-scientific side of the news:
The Florida Sun Sentinel's headline today on Alec baldwin's apology on The View: "Sorry Dad" (in 72 pt bold print no less!) Fucking. Hilarous.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
I don't really care what the dipshits at SCN think, that's a funny comic.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
They shoulde have locked his arms up and dressed him like Superman. actually, Evil aside, I'm quite fond of Dr. Hawking
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
As am I. And his music.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Music? Seriously?
How did I miss that?
And where can I hear it?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Florida's new legislation goes well beyond the measures of a traditional pawn shop law. The state now requires all retailers selling second-hand CDs to acquire a permit and invest in a $10,000 security bond through the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Stores must fingerprint individuals trading in CDs, copy their state identification, and pay them only in store credit; traded CDs must be held for 30 days before being resold. Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Wow, sucks to be a gamer in Florida.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
ATLANTA - A vegan couple were sentenced Wednesday to life in prison for the death of their malnourished 6-week-old baby boy, who was fed a diet largely consisting of soy milk and apple juice.
...just... urgh. Words cannot describe... what awful parents. Just... gah.
*goes to be sick now*
Who's up for using taxpayer dollars to give her a tubal ligation and him a vasectomy? It'll be cheaper than you'd think because I don't see any need for anaesthetics.
(Why no, I'm not pissed off. Not at all. Why'd you ask?)
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yeah, some people need to be thrown into a dark well for their crimes.
Florida's new legislation goes well beyond the measures of a traditional pawn shop law. The state now requires all retailers selling second-hand CDs to acquire a permit and invest in a $10,000 security bond through the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Stores must fingerprint individuals trading in CDs, copy their state identification, and pay them only in store credit; traded CDs must be held for 30 days before being resold.
Completely ignoring the dozens of used music/game businesses this drives bankrupt, the employees of said businesses that are now unemployed or how it hurts the consumers that just maybe dont want to be gouged by the RIAA's inflated CD prices by buying used CD's.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Somehow I think eBay will be happy with that.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
ATLANTA - A vegan couple were sentenced Wednesday to life in prison for the death of their malnourished 6-week-old baby boy, who was fed a diet largely consisting of soy milk and apple juice.
...just... urgh. Words cannot describe... what awful parents. Just... gah.
*goes to be sick now*
Who's up for using taxpayer dollars to give her a tubal ligation and him a vasectomy? It'll be cheaper than you'd think because I don't see any need for anaesthetics.
(Why no, I'm not pissed off. Not at all. Why'd you ask?)
Well, if they were giving the child adequate amounts of soy milk, it wouldn't be such a problem. My girlfriend's best friend recently had a baby and has to feed it soy milk (Isomil) because she's allergic to lactose. But this is specially formulated baby-soy-milk, not the shitty Silk or So Good! stuff you buy at the supermarket (which these idiots were probably feeding their child).
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Maybe if that woman let her baby suck on her tits for a while none of this would have happened. You know, the natural way of feeding a baby? In a way. I'm almost relieved that poor kid doesn't have to grow up with these whackjobs. He'd probably have been grounded for a week for eating a fucking cheeseburger.
Some people should not be allowed to have sex. Right now, it's too early for me to think of all the right words to describe the hostility I want to act out on these people.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Its fine and dandy if adults want to make the decision to become vegans. But as a species humans are omnivores and need meat protein from birth. I've known vegetarians/vegans that have children and although they find the thought of eating meat/animal products disgusting, they still feed it to their kids because they need the nutrients. Once the kids become old enough to make the decision, they can become just like their parents all they want.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Good for them! As much as I like Dick Blumenthal, he's been going seriosuly overboard lately. Also, I see PA is listed in that letter as well. What disheartens me the most is this:
In December, MySpace announced it was partnering with Sentinel Tech Holding Corp. to build a database with information on sex offenders in the United States.
Software to identify and remove sex offenders from the site has been used for 12 days, and MySpace has "removed every registered sex offender that we identified out of our more than 175 million profiles," Nigam said.
That means if I had a MySpace, they'd be deleting it. for no other reason. Discriminatory much?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Try to get 80 to 90% of people to agree sex offenders shouldn't be chained in their basements for no other reason.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"(I almost want to do the "Berries & Cream" dance)."
What's up with that commercial, anyway? Are they making a reference to something I don't know? Or was it just a mash-up of random weirdness?
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
A student told Monday how he lost his mobile phone after being "mugged" by an angry flock of geese.
Sam Rozati, 23, was attacked by four birds as he walked past their nest. They pecked so hard he dropped his phone. Then one bird grabbed the mobile and disappeared into the undergrowth in Colchester, Essex, England.
Final-year law student Sam said: "They flew over and started biting my hand until I dropped the phone. I had to move away for my safety."
His attempts to find his phone have failed - as it is set on silent. He said: "I'd never been mugged by anyone before, but now I've been mugged by geese.
"I go the long way round to go home now."
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Who the fuck knew there was a fucking BURRITO TUNNEL running from Alameda to Weehawken?!?
EDIT: Fuck. It's fake.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
A first-year Liberty University student was arrested in what police said was a plot to detonate explosive devices Tuesday, the day of the Rev. Jerry Falwell's funeral. Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
It's the Second Coming! Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I don't think there was any "coming" involved! Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Neither was there any "Coming" the first time! Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
If you ever find yourself between a tiger and a large body of water, don't count on the large body of water as an escape route!
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
When I was in St. Louis, the zoo had an Amur Tiger and her two cubs. In the summer, you would frequently see them playing or just wading in the pond in their enclosure.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Don Herbert, who explained the wonderful world of science to millions of young baby boomers on television in the 1950s and '60s as "Mr. Wizard" and did the same for another generation of youngsters on the Nickelodeon cable TV channel in the 1980s, died Tuesday. He was 89. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Tigers love the water. They're the only cats that don't. I remember when I went to the zoo when I was little, this girl was standing up close to the bars chucking rocks at a tiger...so the tiger turned around and pissed all over her.
Nothing to do with swimming, just a fond memory. The only thing I can remember clearly from being 7.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
What movie was it where they used baby monitors to pick up alien signals? Was it Signs? God how I hated that movie...
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Baby monitors have video now? Man, have I been out of the loop...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
In late June of 1908, a fireball exploded above the remote Russian forests of Tunguska, Siberia, flattening more than 800 square miles of trees. Researchers think a meteor was responsible for the devastation, but neither its fragments nor any impact craters have been discovered.
Italian researchers now think they've found a smoking gun: The 164-foot-deep Lake Cheko, located just 5 miles northwest of the epicenter of destruction. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Thank you, come again!
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I wonder if they will be selling Wadded Beef, creamed eel and hurricane chow?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
For some reason I always liked the line "A twizzler is not a sprinkle"....
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Today is 4 July. Independence Day. For most, that means American independence from Britain. For some of us, today we celebrate that there are only 69 years left until Lunar independence. Consider the words of Professor Bernardo de la Paz:
"I will accept any rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."
"There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him."
"But in writing your constitution let me invite attention the wonderful virtues of the negative! Accentuate the negative! Let your document be studded with things the government is forever forbidden to do. No conscript armies...no interference however slight with freedom of press, or speech, or travel, or assembly, or of religion, or of instruction, or communication, or occupation...no involuntary taxation. Comrades, if you were to spend five years in a study of history while thinking of more and more things that your government should promise never to do and then let your constitution be nothing but those negatives, I would not fear the outcome.
What I fear most are affirmative actions of sober and well-intentioned men, granting to government powers to do something that appears to need doing. Please remember always that the Lunar Authority was created for the noblest of purposes by just such sober and well-intentioned men, all popularly elected. And with that thought I leave you to your labors. Thank you." Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: I wonder if they will be selling Wadded Beef, creamed eel and hurricane chow?
Cream of Eel
I often find myself at the grocery story doing Burns' "Ketchup/Catsup" routine.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Funny, I always catch myself doing that thing from Calivin and Hobbes, mirroring his dad's confusion with peanut butter. Chunky, creamy, extra chunky, low sodium, large, small, extra large, Jiffy, Peter Pan, store brand....
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
quote: One of the imams argued that some of the better players were out on vacation, which could have made the game closer.
heh. Peaceful coexistence my ass! Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"The annual event aimed at overcoming many of the prejudices facing Muslims and Christians in Germany."
Prejudices facing Christians, eh? In a country where the ruling political party is called the "Christian Democratic Union"? Yeah, I'll bet those Christians just have all sorts of bigotry to overcome.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: I wonder if they will be selling Wadded Beef, creamed eel and hurricane chow?
Cream of Eel
I often find myself at the grocery story doing Burns' "Ketchup/Catsup" routine.
I do believe it was: "Creamed Eels," "Corn Nog" and "Wadded Beef."
Sorry, sorry - I'm not trying to be the comic book store guy or anything!
Worst attempt to cover up simpsons nerdiness ever! Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Hurricane Chow was there as well; it was thinly disguised cat food, relabelled. Relabeled. That really doesn't look right but Firefox says it is...
Also, hmm, .... that poor woman....*suppressed giggling*
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR:
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: I wonder if they will be selling Wadded Beef, creamed eel and hurricane chow?
Cream of Eel
I often find myself at the grocery story doing Burns' "Ketchup/Catsup" routine.
I do believe it was: "Creamed Eels," "Corn Nog" and "Wadded Beef."
Sorry, sorry - I'm not trying to be the comic book store guy or anything!
Worst attempt to cover up simpsons nerdiness ever!
My favorite: Homer: I'm feeling kinda low, Apu. Got any of that beer that has candy floating in it? You know, Skittle Brau? Apu: Such a product does not exist, sir. I think you must have dreamed it. Homer: Oh. Then just give me a six pack and a couple of bags of Skittles. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Forgive me for not getting the candy quite right, but this was my favorite bit of Apu: "An Almond Joy is not a sprinkle, sir. A twizzler is not a sprinkle. A Jolly Rancher is not a sprinkle! Perhaps in Shangri-La but not here!"
quote:"No matter what happens, no resolution, guilty verdict or settlement magically takes away the pain of having been raped or molested by Catholic priests in this archdiocese," said Mary Grant, the group's regional director.
Gosh, it's as though the diocese was complicit in the raping of children or something, an we all know that's impossible....there would be some attempt at criminal prosecution. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"The largest of those came in December, when the archdiocese reached a $60 million settlement with 45 people whose claims dated from before the mid-1950s and after 1987 -- periods when it had little or no sexual abuse insurance."
I think the most disturbing part of the article is summed up in the last three words there.
"Gosh, it's as though the diocese was complicit in the raping of children or something, an we all know that's impossible....there would be some attempt at criminal prosecution."
I don't know for sure, but I think a lot of the lack of criminal charges in this sort of thing have to do with statutes of limitations and/or the higher standards of evidence in criminal trials (vs. civil suits).
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Kinda yes and no- the settelments all stem from a few cases (within the past decade) with evidence clearly showing how "troubled" clergy were moved from one arish to another after incidents where children were brave enough (or traumatized enough) to come forward.
Since then a lot of abused people have come forward- many victims of the same clergyman that had abused someone else.
Of course, prosecutors are elected and no one wants to be seen as the one gunning for the church.
And this is just in the United States- imagine what has been going on for who-knows-how-long in Europe?
Scary shit- but it happens even more frequently with Islam, where women are generally degraded as somehow inferior and are excluded from many services.
That's a shitload of abused kids bettinig preyed on by their religous leaders.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Mmm about Europe, the Catholics I know in Europe seem really floored by molestation in America. Either it really doesn't happen there or practically noone's ever come forward.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Of course, prosecutors are elected and no one wants to be seen as the one gunning for the church."
Really? I would have thought the opposite. That the number of people who would say "Gasp! How dare you try to prosecute Mother Church!" would be far outweighted by the people who would say "You're going to let them get away with systematic, serial rape of children? What the fuck?".
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
You must not be that familiar with humanity.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Humanity is easy. They're basically true neutral, with smatterings of neutral good and neutral evil. And also Dick Cheney.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
He belongs to a particular branch of humanity and can not be judged by anyone.
He's inhuman.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Humanity is easy. They're basically true neutral, with smatterings of neutral good and neutral evil. And also Dick Cheney.
I like the D&D reference there.
Posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot (Member # 239) on :
Less a reference, more like the whole sentence.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
mmm I was just thinking...DnD is like star trek after a fashion. Monocultures...how many entries in the Monster Manual say "Always chaotic evil" or "Always lawful neutral" etc...
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:ATHENS, Ala. (AP) � The Tennessee Valley Authority shut down one of three units at the Browns Ferry nuclear plant on Thursday because water drawn from a river to cool the reactor was too hot, a spokesman said.
The nation's largest public utility shut down Unit 2 about 5:42 p.m. CDT because water drawn from the Tennessee River was exceeding a 90-degree average over 24 hours, amid a blistering heat wave across the Southeast.
"We don't believe we've ever shut down a nuclear unit because of river temperature," said John Moulton, spokesman for the Knoxville, Tenn.-based utility.
Well, they'd better fix it.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I'd be intrested to see how they managed to measure an experiment involving lightspeed that's only three feet apart.
quote:The pair say they have conducted an experiment in which microwave photons - energetic packets of light - travelled "instantaneously" between a pair of prisms that had been moved up to 3ft apart.
Er....yeah. It would certainly seem that way. Peer-review needed on asile 3.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
The same way you measure anything.
This is another example of making photons do interesting things in ways that can never be used to transmit information or violate relativity in any other way.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Quantum tunneling is well-known. It doesn't violate relativity and it's been observed before. It *is* near instantenous, and "faster than light," but no useful information can ever be transmitted faster than light.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
So these guys say they broke the speed of light, with light?
Man, high school physics class just doesn't cut it anymore...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
'Miri' pt.2 Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:A request to interview those participants was denied by CBS because of the potential for spoiling story lines.
I guess "reality" T.V. really isn't all that "real" now is it?
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
That just bothers me on so many levels. There's no way I'd allow my kids to be out of contact like that, and with a bunch of strangers to boot. I suppose the parents had to sign something that prevents them from suing CBS.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
This is just another example of people who should NOT be allowed to have kids. Too bad it didn't turn into "Lord of the Flies" with the kids killing the TV crew and every executive at CBS.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well I heard on the radio that some of the kids got sick when they drank bleach which was placed in an open can of soda. Another girl got burns on her face while trying to cook with a stove. Real smooth CBS.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
And the really sick, twisted part of the story? People watch it.
Screw CBS, I'm stickin with FOX.
Posted by Zipacna (Member # 1881) on :
quote:None was eliminated, and all were free to leave at any time.
Nice to see journalists having a full command of grammar these days. Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
^ That's not quite wrong, but not quite right, either. For the longest time, many people were taught that "none" is always singular. I think it's still in some tests, test guides, and style manuals as being that way. It really should be based on context whether "none" is singular or plural. This particular example could go either way, but seems awkward to me as singular.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
I was always taught to mentally add "of the $ITEM/S" after "none" to figure out singular versus plural. So it would be "none (of the children) were eliminated" but "none (of the wonderful, wonderful food I brought to this potluck) was eaten".
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
No, I can't make this stuff up.
Posted by Zipacna (Member # 1881) on :
quote:Originally posted by B.J.: For the longest time, many people were taught that "none" is always singular.
Not in this country they weren't, unless I was drunk that day...which is always a possibility. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Recall that Voyager episode with the biiig area of empty, starless space? Go figure. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
*deep breath* AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH ... that is .... ahhhhhgggghhhh.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Okay, that's just too odd. And disturbing.
Posted by OverRon (Member # 2036) on :
Well I hope they were just married and nothing else... Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
This brings to mind an old song:
Many, many years ago when I was twenty-three I was married to a widow who was pretty as could be. This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red. My father fell in love with her and soon they, too, were wed.
This made my dad my son-in-law and changed my very life For my daughter was my mother, 'cause she was my father's wife. To complicate the matter, even though it brought me joy I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy.
My little baby then became a brother-in-law to dad And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad For if he was my uncle, then that also made him brother To the widow's grown-up daughter, who, of course, was my step-mother.
My father's wife then had a son who kept them on the run And he became my grand-child, 'cause he was my daughter's son. My wife is now my mother's mother, and it makes me blue Because, although she is my wife, she's my grandmother too.
If my wife is my grandmother, then I am her grandchild And every time I think of it, it nearly drives me wild This has got to be the strangest thing I ever saw As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa.
Chorus I'm my own grandpa I'm my own grandpa It sounds funny I know but it really is so
Oh, I'm my own grandpa
Posted by LOA (Member # 49) on :
quote: LaFrance has pursued her dream of being an astronaut since age 12.
"I've known nothing else," she said. "I mowed lawns for two years to be able to go to space camp."
This summer, things came full circle as LaFrance served as a counselor at the same camp she had worked so hard to attend.
You were here for the summer, and didn't say anything?!?? Although I'm not sure what my wife would say about me meeting a college coed. But it would be interesting to meet people in person occasionally.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
As Shik pointed out : her sister.
Posted by LOA (Member # 49) on :
Yes, sister. I'm the pretty one ;-)
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Which makes her the smart one? Or just the healthy one?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
SURELY, he's kidding...
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Any news site with a pic of a fat chick shooting water from her butt with the caption "Save the Whale" can't be taken seriously.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I seem to remember a feature on Daily Planet about something identical to that. I also believe there was an article in a Popular Mechanics or Popular Science about the same thing years and years ago. It's pretty cool that some of the stuff you see in those mags actually becoming a reality.
Mr. Kensington also has some very good points.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
You know, I honestly don't understand why some people get so riled up about that thing. It's called "art" for a reason. Just because the artist decided to use chocolate as a medium instead of say clay. And the whole nude thing? C'mon, he was most likely nude on the cross in actuality. I highly doubt the Roman legionnaires would strip him of everything but his loincloth so not to offend anyones sensibilities.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
That's kind of a clunky way to do it, isn't it? What about using these metamaterials I hear so much about? There was a new one recently, drawn in semiconductor layers, each layer smaller than the wavelength of the light it was bending; the light waves then encountered multiple layers at once, and "slid" sideways without bending - therefore, no refraction, just perfect transparency. Think it worked in IR and visible light, but I'm not sure...Can't find a link, but these metamaterials will also be a boon to optics and telecom, because with a negative index of refraction you don't need to grind a lens to bend light.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
heh. And Canadians seemed so environmentally conscious... Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"The problem is that the beer fridges are mostly decades-old machines that began their second careers as beverage dispensers when Canadians upgraded to more energy-efficient models to store whatever Canadians eat besides doughnuts and poutine."
I realize it's Fox News, but couldn't they, occasionally, just pretend to be actual journalists?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
No that would require to much dignity on their part.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Hey, our beer fridges are just as environmentally friendly as your god damn SUV's.
Besides, we don't have to spend a hundred dollars worth of gas into them every week. Just a hundred dollars of beer.
And it's winter, most of us are keeping our beer outside in a snowbank Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Move Zig! For Great Justice! Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Sadly, more people are likely to get the game reference than the Dady of Infamy one.
Speaking of News, I was riding the bus Friday to a doctor's appointment, when we came to a bad traffic accident- some ass had drived right into a bus-stop full of people. People that would have been on my bus.
Scary.
The strange part is this: I can find NO NEWS COVERAGE about it at all. Nothng in the papers, TV or net.
Makes me wonder how much serious stuff never gets reported.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Had he used an AK instead of a car it would be picked apart by the media. What the driver/shooter had for breakfast for the past week to see if that induced him to go a huntin'.......
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well remember when I talking about the apartment building next to mine burning down, that didn't get any coverage either.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
You're making the mistake of thinking the media gives a rat's ass about what's "serious." And it's not just about getting "the scoop" either, or ratings...they've got agendas, too. They're owned by corporations who want to sell things...and people buy things they think will help protect them from whatever they're currently afraid of, which is whatever the media is currently going on about. If they don't report any bus accidents but report five shootings in one year, and spend the rest of the time talking about past shootings, everyone is terrified because they think there are shootings going on all the time. *sigh* Economics is awesome.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Not as cool as sociology. All life is struggle for the control of the means of production. Conflict Theory FTW!
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
FTW?
Posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot (Member # 239) on :
F(or) (what i)t('s) W(orth).
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Free The Wookiees
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Means for the win, Andrew. Saying "XXX FTW!" is kinda like saying "Go XXX!" or maybe "XXX is the shit!"
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
FTW, to me, is part of the new, more fanboyish generation of leetspeak, like "LOLZ" and "lulz". At least I never heard FTW on the internet or in multiplayer games until about a year ago, and thought it meant "Fuck The World", since that's the only way I'd seen that acronym used before.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I've seen "FTW" been used in the context of "For The Win."
For What It's Worth = FWIW.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Also, Urban Dictionary is your friend.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Goddamn fanboy netspeak fuckheads ruining another time honored acronym.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
LOLROFLCopterBBQ!
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
i did it for the lulz i did it for the lulz i did it for the lulz
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Convicted sex offenders who used the Internet to help them commit their crimes will be banned from using the Internet under a measure signed into law Thursday.
The bill applies to people who, for example, lured a potential victim through e-mail or other electronic messages. It also affects paroled sex offenders under lifetime supervision, but exempts computer work done as part of a job or search for employment.
And there's another state I can't ever move to. That...really fucking sucks, because I was looking to move to the NYC area & was considering Jersey as a cheaper alternative. My home state of CT has a similar thing where any internet presence--any email, any blog, any forum name--has to be registered with the police or charges can be brought,.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Means for the win, Andrew. Saying "XXX FTW!" is kinda like saying "Go XXX!" or maybe "XXX is the shit!"
Thanks - it's just that, for me it's also the acronym of another music webboard I post to... so sometimes it's hard to look past established acronyms. Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
So what do you think about some of the comments posted on the article's page? Lots of people seem to think it's utterly stupid to spend that kind of money on memorabilia to "re-live your youth." Don't you want to smash people in the side of the face with a whiffle bat sometimes? I mean, it's OK to spend that kind of money over time on baseball, NASCAR, football, etc, memorabilia - jerseys, balls, hats, posters, coasters, glasses, mugs, steins, bedspreads, jackets, coats - but if it's a TV show and not a sport, it's a waste of money? God, at least Trek has a message. Sports are just entertainment.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
And the message is that Brent Spiner knows his poker visor.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
IDES, BITCHES!
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Ah, damnit. I am being forced to read that in English class...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Et tu, Shik?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Shik est Cassicus.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Nigga, PLEASE. If anyone, I'm Gaius Octavian Caesar Augustus.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Sean, that is a damn good play. Open thy mind and let yourself like it Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Y'know last night I was watching this show about Rome and they had an episode on ol' Julius. They also had one on Nero, and man was he batshit crazy as well as kinda fruity.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I dont dispute that it is a good play. I just dont like the way we are reading it. THe teacher gives us a copy each day to read aloud as a class. THe people who read it are, less than than enthusiastic in their efforts. The class exchange student reads it better than them...
Anyway, I would much rather read about it in a history book.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Then it would be fact and not literature, though. Do what I always did and read ahead in class and get yelled at by narrow-minded and overly-systemic teachers.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I have never goten yelled at by a teacher, and plan to keep it that way. Just like I have never gotten a detention, or a warning, or missed that many homework assignments.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Teacher's Pet
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
No. I don't suck up to the teachers, I just do what is expected of me.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Kid, we need to get you debauched.
It's like Omega again, but without the God & retardo-Republicanism. Which he grew out of nicely, I admit. Mostly.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
He will join us or die! Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I am corrupt enough in my own way. I am an athiest and a democrat, and I watch M*A*S*H.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Yeah, a real Che Guevara you are.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Oh, it gets better. Sometimes, when my parents arent home, I let the dog on the couch. Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Do you also take ice cubes from the tray without refilling it?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Yes. But that is only because I am used to having an ice maker. Sometimes, I put the empty box of pop tarts back in the pantry.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I don't think you're the athiest. I've seen people who are athier than you.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Yeah. Athiests have a god: ATHE!
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Athier? THat's a good one. My sister and her friends have a problem saying athiest (at 12 no less), so I normally get Anal-theist, and athie-enismetist.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
What do you acheive by saying athiests are better then alot of nieve isreali poeple?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I guess what I should have said is "are you an adictionaryist, also?".
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Wait, where did I go of on nieve Israelis?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Nowhere, that was boiler-plate.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
What the fetch?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Hilarious.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Which is why I love police blotters.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I read a police blotter in a local historical society once. from 1928. Pretty dull.
1st Feb- Officer Macenroe pulled over a driver for speeding at 30 miles per hour. 2nd feb- liquor bust at house at 540 Houston St. Shots fired, no one hurt. 23rd feb.- Officer Macenroe was struck down by a speeding automobile. Taken to hospital. Pronounced dead at 3 o'clock PM next day. 25th Feb- Ticket issued to horse owner for refusing to pick up horse droppings at 2:10 PM, at 3657 South Buffalo Street.
All hand written too. Kind of interesting.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Who broke into his house? Super Mario?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Cuz...Super Mario carries a video camera at all times?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
...and likes to watch men masturbate?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Umm...Mushrooms?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
To the dog?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM!
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Am I too young to understand this?
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
After watching that, a little part of me has died. It might have been my sanity, or my faith in the survival of humanity as a species...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well now they have this cute bunny cartoon which seems to have dethrone the crazy frog and I remember thinking to myself, "Urge to kill rising!".
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Da_Bang, if you watch it while eating mushrooms then it's not that bad.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Badgers. Freakin' Badgers... They're everywhere.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I thought everyone in the inhabited universe had seen the Badger Badger and assorted rip-offs thereof...
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Hehe! I like the new "live action" one...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I had never heard of this before now.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
It's the biggest meme since All Your Base...you're the first person I've met under 30 who didn't know Badger Badger...I'm shock'ed Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
You know I must ask this. What is All Your Base? Is it like badger badger?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
OH. MY. GOD.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Ain't that da bomb.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Consults Wikipedia....
Oh. For Great Justice!!!
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Awesome, Fabrux.
Sean: Did you like, just log on to AOL two months ago or something?
*struggles...but in the end, he can't resist* Your naivety....its over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
9,201.0 as a rough estimate.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
WHAT NINE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED ONE POINT ZERO!?!?!?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
He is using Significant figures, to be accurate. I actually do not have AOL, but Verizon hispeed. And, I may want to point out in my defense, that some of the things I get confused about are references to things that occured way before my time, or during a period of my life where I was currently pre occupied, as I believe that the game AYB is associated with came out when I was busy sucking my thumb. That, or it is one of Shik's many synonyms for masturbation, something I would not want to search on a family computer.
On a slightly more comical note, I think that an exact copy of Fabrux's diagram should be posted in the FAQ section. Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
I think his diagram should be fucking legible.
"Family computer"...lulz.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
My sister pulled up porn on it to try and get me in trouble, but my parents know that I wouldn't do something like that, in fact, that was about the time that my dad thought I was gay, so she got nailed for it. Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
You make me weep, son.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: My sister pulled up porn
I think I like your sister.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
That diagram is perfectly legible.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Of course it's legible to you, you wrote it!
And now, fun with Powerpoint! Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Your naivety....its over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!
Your 9,000 + (Sean's Member # / 10) = 9,201.0
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: WHAT NINE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED ONE POINT ZERO!?!?!?
See?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80:
quote:Originally posted by Sean: My sister pulled up porn
I think I like your sister.
She is 12. She is not supposed to know about such things.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
(Pssst... it's JFGI. For Just Fucking Google It.)
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Minus 600,000,000 points for using "savvy" like a fucking Johnny Depp fangirl.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Tch.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:Originally posted by HopefulNebula: (Pssst... it's JFGI. For Just Fucking Google It.)
Dammit. Reload!
quote:Originally posted by Shik: Minus 600,000,000 points for using "savvy" like a fucking Johnny Depp fangirl.
Blame Fabrux.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I like 'savvy.' Flame if you must. Btw, BJ/Fabrux, can I save that flowchart for future postage elsewhere?
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Fine by me.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: I like 'savvy.' Flame if you must.
Yeah, it was OK before Pirates of the fucking Caribbean & the throngs of squeeing Depp fangirls.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I like what I like, regardless of whether it happens to be popular or unpopular.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Well, you're a douchebag.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
And you're socially maladjusted Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Oooh, a state-the-obvious contest! Can I join in? Please? Please?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Feel free.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Ooo I want to play. Let's see. I am a huge dork that has pretty much lived in a bubble for most of my life. Or how bout that I know next to nothing about women, so little that it is scary. Oh, and it's dark right now, so there is no sunlight outside.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
You're supposed to do it to other people...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, I don't know the people here well enough to point out their flaws.
How bout
The recent head honchos of star trek are ignorant dumbasses.
That is obvious.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Very well written and well-thought-out argument which, in my opinion, happens to have completely missed the point. Interesting read nonetheless.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Um...Rapist?
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
The author needs one you are saying?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I love Buffy. I watched almost the entirety of the show before I even heard that it was supposedly feminist or not feminist. I was like wait, what? Isn't this just a show about vampires and demons? Sometimes I think people take things too seriously...
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Yipe. The embodiment of an ultra-feminazi.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
But not really.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
It's a sign. A sign that Microsoft will crash and burn...
Posted by Zefram (Member # 1568) on :
Microsoft will never crash and burn. It's not possible when you have no competition to speak of. Plus, Bill Gate's deal with Satan lasts at least until the Seventh Seal is opened.
Right now it seems that Microsoft's greatest competitor is itself; specifically Microsoft Vista versus Microsoft XP. An article I was reading recently about stripped down, low cost laptops said that most can't run Vista due to its insane system requirements. However, Microsoft's most stable OS ever, XP, runs quite well on them. The article ends with the author suggesting that Microsoft end Vista's embarrassing run, slap a pretty new skin on XP, patch up some of the security issues, and re-release it as "Windows Basic".
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
There are Mac's that can run windows right?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: There are Mac's that can run windows right?
Indeed, but why would you WANT to? It's like replacing a hemi engine with a little Lada heart that goes takatakataka. Of course, as Zefram seems to think:
quote:Originally posted by Zefram: Microsoft will never crash and burn. It's not possible when you have no competition to speak of.
Linux is entering the desktop market, too. Firefox is eating IE, OpenOffice is eating Office. I don't know about crashing and burning, but I don't think MS will survive as we know it - at least if I'm not totally stupid and/or reading the signs wrong. I think the open source ethic will become powerful enough that monopolies like MS simply can't function without changing their business attitude. Plus, MS charges huge prices for licenses and doesn't offer much in the way of support, but the market for support is pretty strong these days, and most other companies are charging most of the money in that area rather than for licenses. So I think MS will change, at least in goals and practices, before another 10 or 20 years are out.
In other words, gradual shift over a long time, yes, but crash and burn, I don't think so.
Posted by Zefram (Member # 1568) on :
Microsoft will remain strong in the average office, where employers would rather avoid any special employee training for "nonstandard" products such as Linux (and where they get a good sized discount for buying Microsoft products in bulk). Microsoft also has contracts with various government agencies. My coworkers and I would rather use anything but Microsoft Word (that thrice-cursed, bug-ridden pile of...), but we are not allowed to use any other word processing program on our government-owned computers.
As for Apple posing a greater threat than ever: first, my college roommate kept telling me that same thing almost ten years ago and it just didn't materialize, and second, I just can't see the average company paying for both Microsoft and Apple operating systems as well as training their employees to use both. As long as most companies rely on simple databases and word processing, Microsoft will continue to dominate the market.
Vista may be garbage, but XP is actually pretty good. I think it's more likely that Microsoft will simply dump Vista (like they did ME) and push a new XP-like OS before Apple's seven year old OS X is widely adopted, no matter how good OS X is.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Yes, but with the current generation of kids growing up with computers, training will be unnecessary. Kids are growing up learning both Mac and Windows (Windows at home, Mac at school - since they have a lot of contracts with educational institutions and offer discounts to schools). Again, certainly not by tomorrow. But soon enough. And just using Linux for common office tasks shouldn't require any training if you're familiar with either Winshit or MacOSX (or even previous MacOSs). The GUI may not be *exactly* the same, but it's based on the same principles. And if you're familiar with *both,* as the office workers of 2018 will be, it should hardly require thought. Especially once the application is open - File, Edit, View...it's the same across all three OSs.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Well here's an idea, don't allow HD YouTube videos. If people want to see Chocolate Rain in HD, than they're a mixture of stupid and pathetic.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
20 households = one 2008 total internet value?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
YouTube in high definition doesn't seem very likely, anyway. YouTube barely qualifies as low definition.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I want what AT&T is smoking!
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Heh. God. That goes up now on my list right next to Bush saying the problem with the French was they had no word for "entrepreneur."
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Not to mention that he disliked their non-participation in the war... I mean, police action.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Um. You're not quite following, are you?
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Yeah, that Mosquito thing is becoming a bother. I haven't heard it myself yet, though.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well last night these two assholes where chatting it up in front of my apartment building at 5:00 in the morning, so I might like this mosquito. Either that or guns Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"It defines nudity, for instance, as the display of 'human genitals, pubic area, anus, anal cleft, or any part of the female breast below a horizontal line across the top of the areola.'"
Well, they won't be selling People anymore, I guess.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
D�j� vu. Haven't we talked about that thing on Flare before?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Teacher Jim Piculas does a magic trick where a toothpick disappears and then reappears. ...Piculas said he then got a call from the supervisor of teachers, saying he'd been accused of wizardry.
Yeah I know...but still creepy.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Shik: I'm hardly surprised they fired her for those shots. Teaching is about the most conservative job there is excepting religious positions. I mean, it's the job where you're most expected to act conservatively. Otherwise, you know, [[ insert nonsense about children becoming irrevocably fucked up and serial killers and stuff ]].
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
The real question is : What were the school administrators searching for when they just happened to come across her photos...?
And, in the interests of complete information, I would point out that the article about the wizardry does not mention that the school district claims they fired him for just generally being a crap teacher.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Shik: I'm hardly surprised they fired her for those shots. Teaching is about the most conservative job there is excepting religious positions.
Like Missionary position? Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
There was a similar incident in one of the local schools a few years ago. Some pictures of a teacher in a bikini popped up on her facebook page. They were taken during her family vacation and she posted them up for other family members. Frankly if parents believe a teacher shouldn't be allowed to wear a bikini on her vacation then parents shouldn't be allowed to park their kids in front of the TV while they go get sloshed at the neighbors house.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Something like that happened a few years ago around here. A student stole a teacher's cell phone which contained pictures of the teacher and some friends in scanty bathing suits, and the teacher got fired over it. The pictures weren't on the web or anything, just on the teacher's personal property, but she still got fired.
There was also the time that a teacher got a sex change operation, and was fired because administrators thought it might be hard on the students. At least that case is somewhat understandable.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Yeah, teachers and Facebook walk a fine line. My best friend recently completed his BEd and is now a certified teacher for high school students and his Facebook profile is locked up so tight no one can find it in a search. There's also a dearth of personal information, just in case some random student gets sneaky.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I boycott all social networks so future employers find nothing incriminating when googling my name. Paranoid? Yes. Cynical? Yes. Practical? *squints* May just be.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I find no point in social networks, since I've already got a wife. She doesn't go on them, either. Of course, she's also a high school teacher, but there really wasn't any danger there anyway.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Dude, my future employers probably party more than I do...! Geologists are a rowdy bunch.
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
I hear they rock. Durrrrrr.
I guess I could understand if the teacher was nude or in some comprimsing video or pics (two teachers, one cup). But, yeah. In a swimsuit? With the naughty bits covered? I don't really see how the administration can take issue with that. I guess maybe if it was a serial thing and they were concerned she'd escalate to more lascivious territory, but the shots, while teh sexy, I found were pretty tasteful.
There seems to be this thing, particularly among Americans where we try to insulate children from the terrible secret that everyone is naked under their clothes. I'm genuinely curious how they believe that further sexual repression and subversion would result in a more moral society?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
It's all weird. Teachers or pastor's wives in bikinis = SEXUAL WRONGNESS! ... whereas 8 year old girls on the beach in bikinis = nobody gives a shit.
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
Oops. I just re-read the story. *ahem* for the story, mind you. I missed this part:
quote: "Tiffany Shepherd, a Biology high school teacher from Port St Lucie in Florida was fired from her job last week after school administration learned that she was also working part time as a bikini girl on charter fishing boats, where hostess would sometimes walk around topless.
The administration learned about the teacher’s past time when they saw her “sexy bikini pictures” on the Internet. “
Now, of course I don't personally have a problem with anyone doing this, particularly cute and busty young women, but with the school-teacher thing? We're getting into Donna Rice territory, and maybe I can understand the school board being afeared. Still a warning would have been in order.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yeah. That's been all over the news here lately and I'm just laughing my ass off at it.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Oh dear God. This is one of those things where I think, The list of reasons this can't be true is so numerous and so obvious that trying to enumerate said list gives me a stutter and a headache.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Holeeeeeeee shit. *snrk* geddit...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Where did they use the facilities then? THose poor children are going to be fucked up for life.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Holeeeeeeee shit. *snrk* geddit...
I'm not sure what's more disturbing. That they called a "spiritual leader" instead of an ambulance or that being so religiously zealous that they lost faith after only four days. I mean undoing a fundamental law of nature and reversing God's will has got to take at least a good month of solid prayer and prostration...maybe even a little flagellation and sacrificing of the firstborn for good measure?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Bwah. How can this shit go down and the parents are still like "How dare they suggest birth control be made available to our children?" They can't possibly think it will make them have more sex?
What the...I don't...I can't even...ugh. This New Age crap is going a little bit too far.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:What the...I don't...I can't even...ugh. This New Age crap is going a little bit too far.
I've heard worse than that. Apparently some years back the jury on a murder trial were found to be using a ouija board to communicate with the victim...the judge had them all dismissed.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I recall a case here in NYC where a women was found not guilty of neglect because she was possessed by the devil. She claimed that since she was possessed, she couldn't call 911 to pick up her son who was suffering from a high fever and subsequently died.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Gosh that pregnancy total is high. My school only had one this year,that administrators knew about. The cathlolic girls academy a few blocks away had 8.
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
My school has one of the highest pregnancy and STD rates on the island. I think last year we were #1. Ironically enough, we're the Trojans...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
There was a team called the Trojans near my (first) highschool. We played them homecoming of my freshman year and the senior class had (without the faculty's knowledge) taped up "Pop the Trojans!" signs with condoms hanging off them. Just...hilarious, isn't it?
Anyway, we had about 4, I think, when I was a senior. Pregnancies, that is, not Trojans. Of course we only had about 200 students. (Total. My graduating class had 27.)
I remember hearing about the Ouija board thing. Or at least I vaguely recall something about a jury trying to hold a seance to contact the victim and being dismissed. That stuff's been borrowed by New Ageism from the Spiritualism of the 20's and onward, so it's been around awhile. Maybe people feel it's more credible since it's a bit 'established.'
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: There was a team called the Trojans near my (first) highschool. We played them homecoming of my freshman year and the senior class had (without the faculty's knowledge) taped up "Pop the Trojans!" signs with condoms hanging off them. Just...hilarious, isn't it?
Eh, we get that all the time. Trojan horse refrences and condoms galore at football games.
I got a condom lei at graduation so I'm set Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Only 27 in your graduating class? Mine will have 270ish.
Someone once put condoms on the school's footballs one year. Senior prank I guess. I think my uncle's class's prank was better. They hoisted a '76 Impala up on to the roof of the school, on the second story. The principal even thought that one was funny.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Shikaru: was it stapled together? My school gave out condoms for Condom Awareness Day or some such one time, and half the info sheets were stapled to them.
I've been assured that the student worker responsible was severly disciplined.
(Then again, I mentioned Gordon Brown to said student worker and she said "Oh, that cooking guy? He doesn't sound English...")
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
Nah, just a "standard" lei with needle and I believe yarn woven through the corners of the condom squares.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Oh man,. I was just reading porn earlier today similar to that pregnancy pact thing. It was super fuckin' hot.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
My high school had zero pregnancies the entire time I was there.
I'm sure the fact that it was an all-male school had nothing to do with it.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
My high school class of ~180 only had one pregnancy, and we generally didn't count that one because she left school beforehand.
I find it interesting, though, that in my 5 years in college, I knew of only one girl (out of ~5000) to get pregnant while in school, and I'm pretty sure she was married. Even though I didn't know them all personally, a pregnant belly would be pretty obvious.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by HopefulNebula: Shikaru: was it stapled together? My school gave out condoms for Condom Awareness Day or some such one time, and half the info sheets were stapled to them.
I've been assured that the student worker responsible was severly disciplined.
(Then again, I mentioned Gordon Brown to said student worker and she said "Oh, that cooking guy? He doesn't sound English...")
Well to be fair those of us living here are only peripherally aware of the bugger. Mostly as "that bloke wot's getting kicked out in the next election" or "wot's he wafflin' about now?".
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
What exactly did they think the ninja was going to do? Give 5 kids crime fighting superpowers and giant themed robots?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
That's what I keep asking Santa for.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Really? I've been asking for lower gas prices. I'll probably have better chances of getting superpowers and robots though...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Robots that run on GASOLINE! Irony!
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Right, and then pretty soon we'll be dumping bits of Halley's Comet into the ocean every once in awhile...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well, Exxon has laughed off the pain and suffering of the Alaskan people, thanks to obscure maritime law 100 years old and the sheer political fuckery of our highest court.
Sigh.
I need a giant robot. A nuclear powered Red Ronin would be nice...oh the fun to be had in Washington with a 100 foot long laser sword.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I need a Lantean cityship to just gtfo of Earth and find some nice pleasant ocean-planet to live on for a couple hundred years.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
The Supreme Court also removed Washington's ban on handguns, and it'll only be time before we can own nukes. Then I'll the one who's laughing AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
We'll never be able to own nukes. People are too misinformed to even tolerate nuclear power plants in most cases.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Any ban on nukes could be skirted by calling them "noo-clear" weapons....and getting the insane NRA to back you up.
Which they sooo would.
Some people want a gun to hunt, others to defend theselves, and many many more just because they just like guns. ...then there's a large collection of scumbags...er "private dealers" that sell guns with no regard to the safety of others while obeying the letter of vaguely drafted laws.
I forsee a massive class-action lawsuit by all the gun dealers operating in D.C. when the ban took effect against the city.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"I forsee a massive class-action lawsuit by all the gun dealers operating in D.C. when the ban took effect against the city."
1976?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yeah- the suit could be brought by gun shop owners from 1976 that suffered financial loss- some doubtlessly went out of business as a result. It's possible someone will claim that the law itself was unconstutional based on the Supreme Court's verdict- and that their constutional right to sell killing machines was infringed as result.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Sell killing machines? *Groan* Don't make me say gun's don't kill people, people do. I mean yes, the gun helps, but a pen won't write a word unless you hold it and spell it right. And yes that's an old point but it's a damn good one. The violence comes from people who aren't going to pay much attention to gun control laws anyway and I don't want to be stuck defending myself with a 3 inch pocket knife because everything else is illegal.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
If you outlaw firearms, the only people that have them will be the outlaws.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people. Outlaw bullets.
Posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot (Member # 239) on :
"If you outlaw firearms, the only people that have them will be the outlaws."
Fuck, hell yeah, cowboys!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I've got way too many cowboys with concealed weapons permits living near me allready, thanks: a city councilman that draws on someone for not useing the express line at the super-market, a guy shooting the two men that were talking to his date at a Chilli's, another idiot shooting his preagnant girlfriend in the stomach... All with concealed weapons permits (which is far stricter in their permits than an owner's permit), clean records and all made a crazy snap-judgment when someone pissed them off. I just dont see these situations happening without easy access to firearms (handguns specificly). People snap and if they have a gun, people get killed instead of getting punched.
I'm not saying ban all guns- it's WAAAAAY too late for that to be a viable solution, but consider this- after the assualt weapon ban was quietly lifted cops found themselves seriously outgunned by crimminals- now law enforcment agencies are adding machine guns to their armories to keep up: it's escalating quickly. Also consider that ten of thousands of guns are made in the US every year with pretty lax laws about how they're sold and who they're sold to- and with no limit on how many guns a person can buy- I'm sorry, there's no way someone is buying 20 handguns for personal defense.. Makes it obvious how all those criminals get the guns they use.
Most gun dealers are all for being able to sell anything with no restrictions and yes, the NRA backs this point of view.
Yes, you need a person to kill with a gun- they dont do it without us- they just make it insanely easy to kill someone. Just point nad click: just like a remote control.
[ June 28, 2008, 11:34 AM: Message edited by: Jason Abbadon ]
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"If you outlaw firearms, the only people that have them will be the outlaws."
A tautology like that isn't much of an argument. Replace "firearms" with anything, and it's still true. So, you are supporting the idea of never outlawing anything?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Outlaw outlawry.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN:
"If you outlaw firearms, the only people that have them will be the outlaws."
A tautology like that isn't much of an argument. Replace "firearms" with anything, and it's still true. So, you are supporting the idea of never outlawing anything?
So, if you outlaw Star Trek we'll all be outlaws. possibly with replica phasers
Maybe we should outlaw catch phrases.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN:
"If you outlaw firearms, the only people that have them will be the outlaws."
A tautology like that isn't much of an argument. Replace "firearms" with anything, and it's still true. So, you are supporting the idea of never outlawing anything?
What I'm saying is that if you ban guns, you ban them from people who have a legitimate reason for carrying. Criminals will still find a way to get hold of a gun, ban or not. Banning handguns only hurts the people who use them for defense purposes. Look at Australia, when they banned handguns there was a spike in armed home invasions. I'm sorry, but banning them doesn't solve the problem. It only makes it easier for the criminals to commit their crimes. I don't know what the solution is to the gun debate, but this isn't it.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Maybe we should outlaw catch phrases.
If only I had a magic wand.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
How 'bout a nice simple restriction of handguns to the house or gun range? Make it a felony to be caught packing heat on the street.
Ban assualt weapons (for real this time)- Yes, there's thousands of them floating around allready so stem the tide of more coming into the gun market- no one needs a Kalishnakov to defend his home: ninjas are not comeing after you and you have zero chance if the government goes all dictatorship: red dawn was a movie. The gun makers can sell to the government to stay afloat...and it's a wildly profitable industry.
Restrict handgun purchases to one handgun per person or at least prohibit the back-door selling that's legal at gun shows between private sellers.
Scruinize gun permit applicants for mental health history: if they dont want to share, they dont get to shoot.
These just seen like reasonable changes to me- people can still hunt (just not with military weapons designed to shred through armor), still defend their castle from intruders and mentally unbalanced bozos would not be able to buy guns.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I agree with Jason. Although I think you should be allowed to buy two handguns. One to keep at home somewhere safe, another to carry on your person. And I do support concealed weapon permits unless we're going to just say it's OK to carry guns in plain sight, which would also be fine with me.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: I agree with Jason. Although I think you should be allowed to buy two handguns.
Hell yeah- sometimes you need that John Woo moment, am I right? Free trenchcoat with purchase of matching handguns. Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
The only "news" that exists from this past week or any other is Diablo III. Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
When I become of age to get a concealed carry permit, I probably will. I might follow in my uncle's footsteps, and be a gun collector. He has about 20 rifles, pistols, and shotguns, most used for hunting, and all locked in the multiple gun safes he has in his basement. He only has a permit to carry two of them though, a .22 derringer to carry on him during the summer, and a colt .45 for winter use. Although, if I do follow through with my plans to become a cop in the city of buffalo, I'll have no choice but to carry a weapon at all times. I hope officers have the option to choose their service pistols, as I am not a big fan of the Glock 17...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
In less than 7 years, Mercedes-Benz plans to ditch petroleum-powered vehicles from its lineup. Focusing on electric, fuel cell, and biofuels, the company is revving up research in alternative fuel sources and efficiency. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Bit of a marketing ploy - biofuels? As in ethanol? As in "the fuel that can power any standard gasoline engine"?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
quote: These include not only microwave ray-guns, but the terrifying Pulsed Energy Projectile weapon. This uses a powerful laser which, when it hits someone up to 11/2 miles away, produces a "plasma" - a bubble of superhot gas - on the skin.
Am I seeing the birth of the EM-33? Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
The whole assault rifle thing is a tad stupid. Even more stupid is those nuts who want the heavy weapons/machine gun ban lifted.
Seriously, who the fuck needs a 50. machine gun for hunting or defense purposes?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, downing a 12 point buck with a 7.62mm bullet from 450 meters is a unique feeling.
Although, I too think there is no need to hunt game with an AK-47. Appearantly, Izhmash thought that too, because they produce a semi-auto version of the AK with a 5 shot magazine for hunting, which is perfectly legal to own in most places in the US.
It is senseless to limit the calibre of hunting rifles though, but deffinately a good idea to limit the magazine capacity and fire rate. Private liscensed collectors should be allowed to own automatics though. Most just put their's on display, or use them on private ranges. Not to mention that they can be outrageously expensive, with the cost of ammo and taxes and liscenses and such.
I rather fancied that belt-fed .22 caliber machine gun. We could really use one of those out in gopher country.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I saw a DVD about prarie-dog hunting once. Do small rodents really kinda "explode" when you shoot them?
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: It is senseless to limit the calibre of hunting rifles though, but deffinately a good idea to limit the magazine capacity and fire rate.
This is all good but I have to disagree on one thing. Its obvious to limit the caliber of the round because a 50. will fricken destroy a deer while smaller and more practical rounds will do the same job without the mess.
Regular civilians don't NEED 50.'s or automatic weapons or assault rifles or high-powered sniper rifles. Those are all meant for killing PEOPLE not game or for shits and giggles. If you want to try that stuff out, put on a uniform and go to Iraq.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
The few. The proud. The guys with the really kick-ass ordnance.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: It is senseless to limit the calibre of hunting rifles though, but deffinately a good idea to limit the magazine capacity and fire rate.
This is all good but I have to disagree on one thing. Its obvious to limit the caliber of the round because a 50. will fricken destroy a deer while smaller and more practical rounds will do the same job without the mess.
Regular civilians don't NEED 50.'s or automatic weapons or assault rifles or high-powered sniper rifles. Those are all meant for killing PEOPLE not game or for shits and giggles. If you want to try that stuff out, put on a uniform and go to Iraq.
It actually, it's not so much the calibre, as the propellant. Sure, a slug designed to be fired in an M2 .50 machine gun will completely destroy a deer, because it is an extremely powerfull round due to the power of the charge that fires it, and the design of the round. Muzzleloading hunting rifles for example, come in calibres of .50 and higher ( smaller too), but aren't as powerful due to the fact that the bullet is designed differently ( not full metal jacket steel core armour piercing as in the mg round). These bullets could be conical minne balls, or plain lead balls, fired by a black powder or smokeless powder charge. They don't completely destroy a deer. You also have your antique gun enthusiasts who hunt with repllica antique guns, from the 19th and 18th centurys, where the most common musket/rifle calibre was between .60, and .75.
So, am I suggesting that civilians be able to hunt with .50 calibre military sniper rifles? No. But, as hunting with these older style guns is popular, it makes little sense to limit gun calibre. And,anyway, if you're going to go on a shooting rampage, you're not likely to use a one shot muzzleloader.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Well-argued. Also makes me want to go read some books about guns.
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean:
quote:Originally posted by shikaru808:
quote:Originally posted by Sean: It is senseless to limit the calibre of hunting rifles though, but deffinately a good idea to limit the magazine capacity and fire rate.
This is all good but I have to disagree on one thing. Its obvious to limit the caliber of the round because a 50. will fricken destroy a deer while smaller and more practical rounds will do the same job without the mess.
Regular civilians don't NEED 50.'s or automatic weapons or assault rifles or high-powered sniper rifles. Those are all meant for killing PEOPLE not game or for shits and giggles. If you want to try that stuff out, put on a uniform and go to Iraq.
It actually, it's not so much the calibre, as the propellant. Sure, a slug designed to be fired in an M2 .50 machine gun will completely destroy a deer, because it is an extremely powerfull round due to the power of the charge that fires it, and the design of the round. Muzzleloading hunting rifles for example, come in calibres of .50 and higher ( smaller too), but aren't as powerful due to the fact that the bullet is designed differently ( not full metal jacket steel core armour piercing as in the mg round). These bullets could be conical minne balls, or plain lead balls, fired by a black powder or smokeless powder charge. They don't completely destroy a deer. You also have your antique gun enthusiasts who hunt with repllica antique guns, from the 19th and 18th centurys, where the most common musket/rifle calibre was between .60, and .75.
So, am I suggesting that civilians be able to hunt with .50 calibre military sniper rifles? No. But, as hunting with these older style guns is popular, it makes little sense to limit gun calibre. And,anyway, if you're going to go on a shooting rampage, you're not likely to use a one shot muzzleloader.
True indeed. Nice facts too. But all I'm saying is that there a bunch of red-necks who really do want and believe that that the general populus deserves those military-grade weapons, guns, and ammunition. All courtesy of the Second Amendment.
And that's just stupid.
But a single shot .75? Psh, why not? Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Why thank you. I guess the interest in firearms that I have harboured since the 4th grade has finally paid off.
If you're in the gun-zy mood, check this site out.
quote: True indeed. Nice facts too. But all I'm saying is that there a bunch of red-necks who really do want and believe that that the general populus deserves those military-grade weapons, guns, and ammunition. All courtesy of the Second Amendment.
Well, then they've seen Canadian Bacon a few too many times.
[ June 30, 2008, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: Sean ]
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I'll take an Automag V, Berrett M82A1, Calico M960, Sturmgewehr Stg. 44, and to top it all off a Jackhammer Mk3A1 fully automatic 12 gauge combat shotgun.
Oooh, gets me all frisky inside.
Posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot (Member # 239) on :
LET"S ALL MASTURBATE INTO THE HOT GUNMETAL OF A GAPING VOID IN OUR LIVES
YES GUNS TAKE ME TO THE TENDER ZONE
FUCK GUNS I LOVE THEM SO MUCH
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I'll take a S&W Model 10 in .38 super, an FN High Power, with an SMLE No. 4, and a Colt Detective Special, with plenty of ammo. And a rootbeer float. Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I'll have a Marlin 1896 Cowboy chambered for .38 special and .357 Magnum to go with my S&W snub.
OH WAIT....I already have That....
Commonality of ammunition is a GOOD thing.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
I've got a couple squirt guns.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I have a couple of BB guns, a 50 year old .22 rifle, and soon, an old 12 gauge Sears & Roebuck shotgun. Although, technically, I don't hold the permits and liscenses to them. My dad does. But, for all intensive purposes, they are mine.
Once I am older, and have a rather steady financial state, I plan to buy a SIG P228 for self defence to carry on my person. Although, if I plan to be a teacher, I don't know how that will pan out...
A Walther PPK would be nice. I don't think they produce those anymore though.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
"Intents and purposes" for thy edification. Superdidact Away!
I want a Taurus PT111 Millenium or something equally itty bitty. Also a Desert Eagle to show to the ladies *waggles eyebrows* No, seriously, for home defense just something that doesn't jam and holds a lot of rounds. The Taurus is for wearing in public BP
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean:
A Walther PPK would be nice. I don't think they produce those anymore though.
Check out the Bersa Thunder. It has a similar styling, is fairly sleek and reliable. Also if you have large hands it has a nub on the back to protect the web between your thumb and first finger from getting jacked by the slide.
That's nice. Although, for concealed carry, I'd probably prefer the Glock 26.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I'd like to have a Mauser C96 and dress it up to look like Han Solo's blaster. It was an actual Mauser that was modified by the FX department for Harrison Ford to use. The stormtrooper rifle was an Sterling SMG I believe. and the heavy blaster chewie had in the detention centre of the death star was an MG34.
I'd love to own all three of those, fully functional of course, so I can go Star Wars on your ass. Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
Would you get the thigh holster too?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Da_Bang, you are correct. I also believe that the rifle used by the Rebels on Hoth and elsewhere is a modified Stg.44.
The C96 is a nice looking gun though. Accurate too. I think they made a full auto version in many calibres, the .45 cal one ending up in the hands of chinese nationals during the 20's and 30's.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
If I were ever to own a military weapon, like I dunno, if I were going to move to Cameroon or something, I'd want a FN P90. I like that it ejects cartridges downward, and the 900 round-per-minute firing rate, 50-round magazine, and 716m/s muzzle velocity is pretty nice too ;P This is the gun that SG teams use, isn't it?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Yeah, that, paired with a Five seveN would be nice. At least they use the same ammo. 5.7mm, the size of a pistol round with the power of an assault rifle round. I think they used the Five seveN on SG and BSG, no?
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
They used it on BSG for a while with the silencer to make it look more "future-y"
P90's are cool, but if I had to choose, I'd rather have a UMP or HK-416 anyday (with a USP.45 of course).
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:"This New Wave Nigel doll that they've created is just a complete Devo rip-off and the red hat is exactly the red hat that I designed, and it's copyrighted and trademarked.
"They didn't ask us anything. Plus, we don't like McDonald's, and we don't like American Idol, so we're doubly offended."
That's just too funny!
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Like any 5 year old kid will look at that rainbow coloured piece of crap and associate it with a band that they have never heard of. Really...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: I'll take an Automag V, Berrett M82A1, Calico M960, Sturmgewehr Stg. 44, and to top it all off a Jackhammer Mk3A1 fully automatic 12 gauge combat shotgun.
Oooh, gets me all frisky inside.
A police friend of mine in MIami has a Calico- fires .22 "Magnum" load that hit like .38. Scary how easy that thing is to fire, but hardly possible t conceal without a trenchcoat (which in Miami's heat screams "I've got a gun!".
The thing that really bugs me is the total lack of regulation of gun shows: most will sell perfectly legal kits that convery semi-auto to full auto and (at least here in the south) are a magnet for hate groups, paranoid nuts and "personel sales" (also legal) of firearms between people which require no 3-day waiting period. Lotta gun dealers selling that way: no rules or oversight.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I work at McD's unfortunately. The toys *suck.* However, I don't recall this toy...perhaps it's not ready for distribution yet? We're still on the stupid panda-things from some kids movie.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Burger King gets all the cool toys- I heard they had some Iron Man stuff but when I went it was all Indy 4 stuff.
McD's sucks- they gave me food posioning a few years back and I prayed for death to make it stop. I've never been back- never will.
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
Heh try working there (I think Dan can agree on that).
I'll just let you guys in on a little tip; don't drink the OJ.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I lived on Micky Dee's OJ when I was in NYC. And their fries, and milkshakes, and Big Macs...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I guess they must 'whip it' into the OJ. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Oooh, Sean. Bic Macs are a total rip-off. They have two 1/10lb beef patties and are more expensive than a Quarter Pounder which has 1/4lb. Plus, Big Macs only have one piece of cheese and those shitty reconstituted onions that we get freeze-dried and add water to. QtrP's have real, sliced onions and *two* pieces of cheese.
Oh, and cheeseburgers? $1.06 after tax. Double cheeseburger? $1.07.
I hate. McD's.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Yeah, WHoppers are better. Double Quater Pounders aren't that bad though...
I haven't seen double cheeseburgers on the menu of my McD's for a while. Strange.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Like any 5 year old kid will look at that rainbow coloured piece of crap and associate it with a band that they have never heard of. Really..."
So... what? You can rip off anyone's copyright, as long as you say you're targeting an audience that won't recognize it?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Have no fear, however: This lawsuit is not about money, oh no. It's about holding retailers accountable.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
My guess is that she was a little too large to fit into that particular thong, and stretched it so tight that it snapped. Thongs can't be all that resilient, given that that in most cases the how-to-wash-tag is the largest piece of fabric on the bloody thing.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: I work at McD's unfortunately. The toys *suck.* However, I don't recall this toy...perhaps it's not ready for distribution yet? We're still on the stupid panda-things from some kids movie.
It was a few toy cycles back. They played music when you moved their arm up. I finally managed to sneak all the ones my kids had into the trash. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Sean: I am amused by your fabric size comment. However, I'm not sorry that's true of thongs Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
Hear, hear...
*taps Daniels beer mug with his own*
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Ah, to those who have actually had favourable encounters with them... *Taps mug of root beer against Ross and Dan's*
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Last of the Douchebag Trio, Jesse Helms, fucks off in the wee hours of the morning.
Happy 4th of July, Senator. Hope they have firecrackers in hell.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Wouldn't they count as a fire hazard there?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Yeah, god forbid Hell burst into flames...
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Well, yeah. It's exothermic, after all.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Strange, that chemisrty actually makes sense.
If only my chem exam was that easy. There was a question about parts per million concentration of oxygen in a fish tank. The answer that most people I asked got was 7.1ppm of O2, I got 999,967ppm of O2...I think my math was a bit off. Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Funny, I've read that blurb only the answer went the other way; the bloke actually slept with said girl.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
I've read both and just filched the first one I clicked on Google.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Think they'll have flag pins in hell?
On a wildly positive news note, Ingrid Betancourt can breathe a sigh of air-conditioned relief for the first time in almost seven years. Crazy how the Columbian military pulled off her rescue- A-Team crazy. Notice how Hugo Chavez is keeping quiet over this- A heaping plate of crow for that fucko.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
*hops up and down* Water on Mercury!Water on Mars! We know there's water on the Moon already! Hydrocarbons on Titan...."super-Earths" in their star's habitable zones...M-Class planets can't be far behind Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I want aliens, with bumpy heads.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I want mysterious alien artifacts of incalucuable power.
...but i always want that.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Me too, but it doesn't have to be an alien artifact. Some ancient magical secret or something will also do.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I want a Ubership which is made of neutronium and can fire a super-planet-destroying-laser as well as have a bajillion anti-fighter and anti-capital ship weapons and is sleek and agile like the Defiant or the White Star and is crewed by spacebabes with bigs ass n' titties who speak in that sexy Unreal Tournament 2004 voice and wear skimpy outfits and Don Felder's Heavy Metal is played on instant loop. And Adrenaline, I need more adrenaline.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
And I want a pony.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I want a phase pistol.
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
I want an alien in every port!
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
...Which is why I want a phase pistol...mostly.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Why, Sean, I didn't know you were so kinky.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mikey T: I want an alien in every port!
And a tribble in every garage?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
quote:Originally posted by HopefulNebula: Why, Sean, I didn't know you were so kinky.
Well, I just think it would be cool to randomly stun people. And, it is always helpful to have a saftey device when tribble stuffing. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
"Oooh daddy, I been a rotten girl, stun me, stun me on setting three!!"
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Phase pistols only have two settings. Stun and kill. It's best not to confuse them. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Meh. They're phasers. I don't care if they drop the 'r.' Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I personally think phase pistols look more comfortable to use, compared to the dustbuster phaser, or the "phaserang"
Anyway, while the actuall article is quite serious, I find the title quite amusing.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Before I start to feel too weird, anyone have this happen recently?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I see cows all the time. Not necessarily in the *road*...and if they were, I'm sure the farmer would come get it pretty quick...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by HopefulNebula: And I want a pony.
This is the internet and you are a woman- trust me, you dont want a pony.
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
Amen to that. *shudder*
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
As long as she doesn't join PONY, she's fine. After that, she's beyond help.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Welcome, Makemake, to the dwarf planet table!
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I bet there are thousands of Kuiper belt objects...maybe with a von Neumann probe on one of them....;P
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Okay, so exactly how many planets do we have now? Rather, how many count as planets? I remember Pluto was, then wasn't, then there were some mopre cold small rockballs that were, then weren't, now Makemake...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Eight. Makemake is a dwarf planet, as is Pluto. Dwarf planet is a different classification than planet.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Actually, now its a plutoid.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Actually, it's both. Plutoid is a sub-category of dwarf planet.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I wonder which one will turn out to be a mama's boy.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Intruiging.
quote:"None of us could believe it," the maternity ward's head doctor, Birgit Weber, told one news source. "Both kids have definitely the same father."
As if there was any doubt? She would have to sleep with two men virtually back to back.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Apparently a threesome is a foreign concept to our young padawan.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Doesn't even need to be that. Like there aren't people who sleep with two different people within the same week? Especially if one is their spouse, and the other... isn't.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
That's kind of what I was going at, though wouldn't the sex have to occur with in a relatively short space of time? Once the daddy's sperm fertilizes the egg, doesn't it like seal it self off? In order for the two sets of sperm to get the same egg ( twins come from the same egg that separated during the initial cell division, right,or is that just identical twins?),they would have to enter the body around the same time in order for both sets to make it to the egg. Right? Or have I totally screwed up my favorite unit in Biology?
And, I know what a threesome is. Unfortunately...
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Sean, that's just identical twins. Fraternal twins come from two different eggs. Genetically, they're the same as any other naturally born siblings; the only difference is their sharing of wombspace.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I figured I got my facts wrong...Well, still, once the body realizes that the egg is fertilized, doesn't it take measures to prevent another fertilization ( unless it happens at the same time, a la fraternal twins), like stopping ovulation, and like putting mucus blocks in the fallopian tubes, or something like that. As I am not a female, I have relatively little knowlege on how the whole shabang works.
Not that this whole train of thought really matters, as the twins have the same mother and father.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
This DOES happen at times.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: And, I know what a threesome is. Unfortunately...
Ah, you've had the bad threesome.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Holy fuck, its Liam!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The Return of the Liam! There should be a prophecy or something....
quote:"Liam will come to the forum, carrying a chalice overflowing with sweet, spring wine."
Something like that there.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
oh. Wait. Why did the redneck shot his lawnmower?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
That's like the guy that shot the wheel on his car cause it wouldn't come off... Rednecks + guns = baaaaad
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Yeah, but still, $11k in fines? He has a point, it *was* his lawnmower. I mean I know there are don't-shoot-in-the-city laws and he had an illegal type of weapon, but really, that seems excessive seeing as no one was hurt and the only property damaged was his own.
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
I suppose this falls under the same laws like a prohibition of sex toy's (except for medical purposes) in a certain town or how you can't shoot a rabbit from a moving trolley in San Francisco.
Food for thought.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Did you know that it is a written law in New York State that the penalty for jumping off of a building is death? It is a law seldom enforced though...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Did you know that that doesn't even sound slightly plausible?
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
You don't sound plausible!
The lack of relevance doesn't make sense to me either.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Never mind...
I believe it stems from some 18th century gentlemen's law, but now, jumping off of a building normally already means death. Kinda like how you can't shoot a rabbit from a trolley in San Francisco. Do they even have many rabbits there?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
They have many rabbits everywhere, really, don't they?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
This is why I hate appeals courts. A fucking rapist can draw out his life by claiming stupid shit like this. Can the judge dismiss it as frivolous or no?
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Kinda related, but anyway.....
I really despise keeping people on death row for so many years. If someone has committed a crime so heinous that they are given a death sentence, get it over with already! Don't even keep them overnight, just march them right over to the chair. I really don't know how the lawyers managed to muck things up so much over the years.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Yeesh, he's not that much heaver than me. Hardly too fat. Now if he was 350+, maybe...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by B.J.: Kinda related, but anyway.....
I really despise keeping people on death row for so many years. If someone has committed a crime so heinous that they are given a death sentence, get it over with already! Don't even keep them overnight, just march them right over to the chair. I really don't know how the lawyers managed to muck things up so much over the years.
Yes, fuck appeals.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I think appeal courts should give appeals...quickly. Force that right to a speedy trial And a judge should be able to review appeals before they go to trial and dismiss fucking silly ones like this.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I think people on trial for murder should be tried while sitting in the electric chair. Now that's speedy.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
And then, if it turns out later that the person was innocent, we summarily execute the judge, jury, prosecutors, and executioners, right?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Ohhhh yes. Imagine how much more interactive and attentive juries would be if it were their asses on the line as well as the defendant's?
I'd have the jury box rigged up for electrocution as well....
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
And saddly, another great comedian has passed away. R.I.P. Bernie...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I didn't really enjoy Mac's comedy. Scratch that, I didn't like it at all. But it's sad when anybody dies that young.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Because you're weird.
Isaac Hayes is down, too, less than 24 hours after Mac. They filmed a movie together for release next year. Sam Jackson is in it, too. I'm waiting to see if he's dead tomorrow.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
*shrug* I could demonstrate the quality of his comedy which I didn't like, but I don't know the word for the quality.
There's a thread about Hayes, over at "Another Jaffa goes to seek Kheb."
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: *shrug* I could demonstrate the quality of his comedy which I didn't like, but I don't know the word for the quality.
I think a lot of his comedy revolved around his rather hard childhood, so to really understand it, you either had to be there, or be in/have been in a similar impoverished situation. I haven't seen much of his work either, but, yeah, it's sad. And so soon after George Carlin too.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
It was more his delivery and acting style than his actual material as a stand-up comic, none of which I've seen.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I work with a couple of people who would be that dumb, except that every minute inch of the McDonald's where I work is covered with web-enabled security cameras and the district manager likes to watch the feeds from home. When he's not sitting in his truck in the parking lot with a pair of binoculars that is.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, atleast he seems interested in keeping the restaraunt clean.
Probably a load of crap, but someone found a Bigfoot. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Wow! Imagine that people that run a company called "Bigfoot expeditions" were the ones to find a dead Bigfoot! Not a park ranger or local hunter... Afterwards they probably won the Powerball Lottery, as long as they're able to work extremely implausable odds. Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, I'll have to catch the press conference and find out.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
There's a bet about this at Longbets.org somewhere, that Bigfoot would be found before some-odd year. Based on...no logic, just the guy wants it to be true I think Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Engineering professors already seem to not give a crap how students spell things Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Summhou, aym knot kunvinsst that axepting enny fonetiklee cimiler kombineshin uv leturz az uh kureklee speld wird wud meyc it eezier too undurstand wut peepul ar seying.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
^ & ^^: You must die now.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Spelling is only for people you're not on good terms with- friends should forgive such personality flaws as "character". Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
TSN - you pronounce "correctly" without the t?
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Does anybody pronounce the 't' in hotdog around here?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Engineering professors already seem to not give a crap how students spell things
No kidding, eh? As long as the formulae are right you're good to go.
quote:Originally posted by Sean: Does anybody pronounce the 't' in hotdog around here?
Always.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Uhh.... yes.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Huh, I've only ever heard it pronounced with the 't' silenced, so that the basic result is "hoddog". Just wondering...
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
That's because you're from fucking Buffalo, kid.
Here in central PA, people seem to have a hatred of using the verb "to be", leading them to say things like "The dishes need done." This in turn leads to me jumping up & down, ranting & raving like Lionel Twain cursing Sidney Wang for his inability to speak English properly.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
You'd be surprised how confused out o' towners are when they hear things like "Chaclate", "Melk", and " Moltrin" followed by the Canadian standard interogatory "eh?". I had a teacher who couldn't use English properly. She liked to misuse the plural form of words. "This type of problem will only mess you up sometime. "You have your state Regentses tests next week. So, I'm going to give you some homeworks tonight."
I'm glad I no longer have her. THen again, you can't exactly blame the American population's inability to speak English, when our president can't, and even makes up words.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"TSN - you pronounce 'correctly' without the t?"
Certainly not. But I'm sure plenty of people don't realize it's there, and would try to spell the word without it. It seemed like a reasonable way to increase obfuscation.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Weird. Of course, here in north cuba, most people speak Spanglish or just come up and say "speekie spanish?" to which I reply "No" and walk away. Even at work.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Holy...shit. The article writer expresses my feelings quite eloquently...especially as regards the kid's parents.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
So he dropped out to play a game that does not even teach how to play gutiar? Seems social services need a call...or the parents can have him declared an adult (after 16, it's legal with parental sign-off) and the kid can destroy his life legally.
I'm thinking "hippie parents". Ten bucks says everyone in his school called him "Fruity Pebbles" every day of his life.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
No amount of clinching of my fingers could produce a fist tight enough for me to punch the imbecile 27-year-old who said the kids playing was "sick". And this come on the heals of a commercial I saw today for another "Guitar Hero" piece of shit.
That's a gaming addiction. Damn parents should have done something about it. First though, they need to grow a fucking back bone. Letting your kid drop out of school because he complained about it...if everyone did that, my school would have 15 students. I'm sure that CPS will have something to say about this. Whether he likes it or not, the kid needs to at least be given the opportunity to get a good education, whether her chooses to ignore all that education or not is his own damn choice.
[ August 17, 2008, 05:38 PM: Message edited by: Sean ]
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
16 year olds used to be able to drop out of school without parental consent in Illinois, but now it's 17. Either way I assume the "allow" bit is more about his parents not kicking him out for doing it.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Um..just take the fucking game syatem away. No way this loser has ever held a job- or could hold one- to buy a replacment.
Still, when I think of all the ...er...."unlawful"... stuff I did at age sixteen, this is not so bad. Dumb, but not so bad.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Eh...I can't enjoy watching people swim, race, throw things, and ski nearly as much as everyone else seems to.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
One of our locals, Jenn Stuczynski, won a silver medal for pole vaulting. We also have a local in the US rowing team, and I believe he took bronze for some event.
speaking of medals, I wonder where they're made? It would be ironic if they were made in China. Probably 90% lead...
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
From what I heard, gold medals are actually gold-plated silver, and have been for a long time.
They are probably created under some kind of strict IOC ruling. I have never even seen an olympic medal upclose... is there a uniform design or can host countries put design on them?
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Each Olympics has a unique medal design, designed by the host city (& I assume approved by the IOC). There was a bit of controversy over one Winter Olympics medal design a few years ago. It had more glass/plastic/somesortofclearstuff in the design than gold/silver/bronze, and many people felt the athletes got cheated.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I think that's a bit silly; it's not like they're going to melt them down and make rings or something. I mean surely the point is that it's an Olympic Gold Medal, not that it's a medal made of gold?
Speaking of 90% lead, Sean, there was a satire article (might even have been Onion News) I read recently talking about how the medals were found to be 99% lead and athletes were warned not to lick them Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Which would be a good precaution to take, if the athletes were under three years old.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Warning to Phelps: dont swim with your medals on.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Sean: Or if the article were satirical in some way... Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
D.I.Y. Surgery Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
*sigh* Cokeheads.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I so would have tossed a pancake at him.
Really, did he inject himself in Dennys' bathroom or right at the table? Did the waitress at least get his beverage order first? Carbonated, no doubt.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
What worries me is that he got easy access to the Denny's kitchen so he could get a butcher's knife. Another reason to hate Denny's.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I love the last sentence of the article
"The Denny's closed for the night."
As if it had the option to stay open...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: What worries me is that he got easy access to the Denny's kitchen so he could get a butcher's knife. Another reason to hate Denny's.
Well...it's just a door. It's not like it's locked or has guards or something. In some restaurants it's not even a door, just an open archway or something. If I worked there and saw some crazy coked-up asshole running for the kitchen I'd get out of the way lol.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: I love the last sentence of the article
"The Denny's closed for the night."
As if it had the option to stay open...
"But I wanted to finish my Slamburger!"
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Oh...oh condom filled with water...that's not remotely breast-shaped...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, if it was filled all the way, like a balloon...you can inflate a condom like a balloon with air, and it will be round shaped, so I'm assuming you can do it with water
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Last I knew, a condom blown up with air was... condom-shaped.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Yeah, condoms are rather stubborn that way.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Why do I keep imagining the balloons that balloon animal artists use...?
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
That brings new meaning to the phrase "trouser snake," Sean...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
lol My point exactly, Sean. They're sausage-shaped. Breasts are not. Like that sketch on Leno with the guy who was too homophobic to eat hot dogs so he had breast-shaped hot dogs instead. Hehehe.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler:
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: What worries me is that he got easy access to the Denny's kitchen so he could get a butcher's knife. Another reason to hate Denny's.
Well...it's just a door. It's not like it's locked or has guards or something. In some restaurants it's not even a door, just an open archway or something. If I worked there and saw some crazy coked-up asshole running for the kitchen I'd get out of the way lol.
I was once chased around a chinese resturant's kitchen by a crazed jamacian bus boy with a cleaver. I started it, but the moment of surreal near-death experience while the kitchen staff yelled in various asian languages always makes me smile when eating at a chinese resturant... But I digress.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Man, I hate the whole idea of polygamy. Not because it commoditizes women (I think that's a separate issue entirely, although loosely related) but because if all the hot rich guys are taking multiple wives then we poor ugly fucks get no tail at all. Thus polygamy is a way to shit on men as well as women...double shitting! Hooray!
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
You're a fucking idiot.
Posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot (Member # 239) on :
Yes, he could always sink to your level, no?
There's "tail" out there if you have no other rules, Daniel, my boy. My sweet dear boy.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I have enough trouble dealing with a single wife when Aunt Flo visits each month. Can you imagine over 80?
And God forbid their TOTM synchronize....
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I dunno how closely women have to live together for that to happen. It does say he lives with his wives and children, but I can't imagine they all live in the same house! Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: lol Who changed your name to choir boy?
I did.
I don't think I could deal with 80 wives. Even surviving along side multiple women who I'm not bonded for life with is difficult.
And, Wiz, I believe that it is for some reason biologically possible for their 'clocks' to synchronize. I'd imagine that sends the residents running for the hills Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
Yes, it's true. Women can give off pheremonal cues etc. that make other women living in close proximity sych up their mensral cycles.
Can't remember why, but it's all to do with the fact that the body relies on external stimuli to keep it's biological clocks in synch - essentialy, it's lazy. If there is a regular stimulus, it will use that to maintain the bodyclock, rather than using it's own mechanisms.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
quote:I read considerable to Jim about kings and dukes and earls and such, and how gaudy they dressed, and how much style they put on, and called each other your majesty, and your grace, and your lordship, and so on, 'stead of mister; and Jim's eyes bugged out, and he was interested. He says:
"I didn' know dey was so many un um. I hain't hearn 'bout none un um, skasely, but ole King Soller- mun, onless you counts dem kings dat's in a pack er k'yards. How much do a king git?"
"Get?" I says; "why, they get a thousand dollars a month if they want it; they can have just as much as they want; everything belongs to them."
"AIN' dat gay? En what dey got to do, Huck?"
"THEY don't do nothing! Why, how you talk! They just set around."
"No; is dat so?"
"Of course it is. They just set around -- except, maybe, when there's a war; then they go to the war. But other times they just lazy around; or go hawking -- just hawking and sp -- Sh! -- d' you hear a noise?"
We skipped out and looked; but it warn't nothing but the flutter of a steamboat's wheel away down, coming around the point; so we come back.
"Yes," says I, "and other times, when things is dull, they fuss with the parlyment; and if everybody don't go just so he whacks their heads off. But mostly they hang round the harem."
"Roun' de which?"
"Harem."
"What's de harem?"
"The place where he keeps his wives. Don't you know about the harem? Solomon had one; he had about a million wives."
"Why, yes, dat's so; I -- I'd done forgot it. A harem's a bo'd'n-house, I reck'n. Mos' likely dey has rackety times in de nussery. En I reck'n de wives quarrels considable; en dat 'crease de racket. Yit dey say Sollermun de wises' man dat ever live'. I doan' take no stock in dat. Bekase why: would a wise man want to live in de mids' er sich a blim-blammin' all de time? No -- 'deed he wouldn't. A wise man 'ud take en buil' a biler-factry; en den he could shet DOWN de biler-factry when he want to res'."
"Well, but he WAS the wisest man, anyway; be- cause the widow she told me so, her own self."
"I doan k'yer what de widder say, he WARN'T no wise man nuther. He had some er de dad-fetchedes' ways I ever see. Does you know 'bout dat chile dat he 'uz gwyne to chop in two?"
"Yes, the widow told me all about it."
"WELL, den! Warn' dat de beatenes' notion in de worl'? You jes' take en look at it a minute. Dah's de stump, dah -- dat's one er de women; heah's you -- dat's de yuther one; I's Sollermun; en dish yer dollar bill's de chile. Bofe un you claims it. What does I do? Does I shin aroun' mongs' de neighbors en fine out which un you de bill DO b'long to, en han' it over to de right one, all safe en soun', de way dat anybody dat had any gumption would? No; I take en whack de bill in TWO, en give half un it to you, en de yuther half to de yuther woman. Dat's de way Sollermun was gwyne to do wid de chile. Now I want to ast you: what's de use er dat half a bill? -- can't buy noth'n wid it. En what use is a half a chile? I wouldn' give a dern for a million un um."
"But hang it, Jim, you've clean missed the point -- blame it, you've missed it a thousand mile."
"Who? Me? Go 'long. Doan' talk to me 'bout yo' pints. I reck'n I knows sense when I sees it; en dey ain' no sense in sich doin's as dat. De 'spute warn't 'bout a half a chile, de 'spute was 'bout a whole chile; en de man dat think he kin settle a 'spute 'bout a whole chile wid a half a chile doan' know enough to come in out'n de rain. Doan' talk to me 'bout Sollermun, Huck, I knows him by de back."
"But I tell you you don't get the point."
"Blame de point! I reck'n I knows what I knows. En mine you, de REAL pint is down furder -- it's down deeper. It lays in de way Sollermun was raised. You take a man dat's got on'y one or two chillen; is dat man gwyne to be waseful o' chillen? No, he ain't; he can't 'ford it. HE know how to value 'em. But you take a man dat's got 'bout five million chillen runnin' roun' de house, en it's diffunt. HE as soon chop a chile in two as a cat. Dey's plenty mo'. A chile er two, mo' er less, warn't no consekens to Sollermun, dad fatch him!"
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Sean: Oh, well, belated half-hearted congratulations on achieving enough postage to change your status line.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Clay Aiken: I'm Gay! World: DUH!
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Wow. It took this long...I was pretty sure he was gay for a while. I didn't know that Neil Patrick Harris and Lance Bass were though...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Note to self: bogus lawyers are bright pink in skintone.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Time for a Virtual Prison? Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I am the nerdiest, most internet- and computer-addicted person I know...and I just can't wrap my mind around the popularity for these virtual worlds. It's creeping me the hell out that stuff is spilling over into real life. And it's not even real life, it's just life - online virtual worlds are not 'fake life' or something. They're games. Pointless games that give you nothing in return for your time and money except whatever sense of accomplishment you get from manipulating data sets on a server somewhere resulting in some 'good' thing happening within the game to your little character. It's frightening, literally, how seriously people take these things - and not just the crazy addicts, the otherwise-normal people who actually spend money on this stuff. Please, somebody explain the attraction to me in a way I can grasp?
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
"In the workplace, 25.4 percent of disabled workers have been subject to intimidating behavior, 19.6 percent have felt threatened, 11.6 percent have experienced physical violence at work, and 8.8 percent have been injured as a result of workplace violence."
Seriously? British people beat up their disabled co-workers? What's up with that?
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
They can't fight back. It makes us feel big.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Scissors- the great equalizer if used correctly.
Dan, I agree completely- My roomate spens like eight hours at a stretch playing that "Sims" game and I cant for the life of me figure out why he does not just leave the house and experience real life instead.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Because it's more fun to do virtual chores than it is to do real chores.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I cant imagine the word "fun" in any way applying to Sims- more like "zombie". I have never seen him smile or laugh while playing the game- he just has a vacant expression.
At least doing chores offers some nominal sense of accomplishment.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
He is improving his stats! I can't think of a worthier accomplishment.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Bill Gates - Any bets on when he finally CRACKS? Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
If those commercials with Jerry Seinfeld were any indication, very soon.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Unemployed for 7 years, living at home with mommy, and what do you bet she tries to have more? ( Another source. From other news sources)
Seriously they should yank the Doctor's license, seize all that clinic's assets to pay for the welfare that this lunatic is going to soak up.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yeah this has been in the news cycle for a while. Just another person doing something extremely dumb and then justifying it with poor reasoning.
Edit: In Geekdom news, at last!!! Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
MNW: Bah! My iPhone is cooler than that. At least it's wireless! If they want to make a communicator, it shouldn't have any wires...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yeah, kinda of a let down. Maybe they should have delayed the release to integrate the Bluetooth technology right into the stock unit, without having to add it at a later date.
Edit: Actually the whole Bluetooth thing comes as a separate communicator, which means once it comes out it renders the USB communicator obsolete in terms of authenticity. BBBBBuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrpppppppp!!!
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote: Suleman has been supporting her six other children with $490 a month in food stamps and receives Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters that could total $2,379 a month.
She has estimated her in vitro fertilization procedures have cost $100,000.
Suleman has said she saved for the treatments by working double shifts and also used money from a disability award exceeding $165,000 that she received after an on-the-job back injury.
The benefits were discontinued last year.
The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.
For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Amazing- she made the decision to have an additional eight children but everyone else is saddled with paying for them. What kind of mother will she be to these eight twins if she's working double shifts to make money? Why the answer is simple: she'll forego work and have the state foot the bills from now on: such "sacrifice".
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, y'all might have heard of this little doozie...
I know a member of TBBS lost two friends and coworkers in it. One was in the plane, the other in the house the plane crashed into. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Nothing sucks worse than sitting in your living room in your skivvies, watching por....er..."Lost" and having some plane crash through your house.
I mean, even the poor saps on the plane had that second of "this is it" before the end.
No key to the city for that pilot. ahhhh....evil. You never let me down with your special insight.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
To be fair the flight crew probably hadn't much of a chance under the circumstances.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Jason:
quote:Nothing sucks worse than sitting in your living room in your skivvies, watching por....er..."Lost" and having some plane crash through your house.
I mean, even the poor saps on the plane had that second of "this is it" before the end.
No key to the city for that pilot. ahhhh....evil. You never let me down with your special insight.
This post reminds me, I have to try out that bottle of red port I got for christmas. Deculture!
I wonder if the sudden increase in plane crash mentions, these last 60 days, has to do with more crashes actually happening or just a heightened trend in scooping on it, due to the Hudson-river Proxy.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
what annoys me is how much suck up they gave the guy, in the first place. i guess it's all in location, location, location.
NYC? 'lite pilot.
Buffalo? whut?
*sigh*
.... i didn't know you were at least part Zentradi, Nim?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The pilot's on the cover of Time this month (I think it was Time- I saw ot in the checkout line).
Whole lotta pilots rolling their eyes over all this hype- I dont think anyone has even interviewed his co-pilot.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Parents who just want kids but don't want to actually be parents to their kids make me go all frothy-mouthed and screamy.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
"Other parents have accused the BBC of discrimination, saying that Burnell would never have been hired if she were able-bodied."
Wow, that's just a whole new level of stupid.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Okay, Britain. In the US, kids get pregnant because the religious wackos won't let anyone tell them what a condom is. What's your excuse?
As for the other article : That's not what a "good Samaritan" is. A "good Samaritan" is someone who sees someone in trouble and helps them out. Old ladies trying to cross the street in the middle of traffic are not in trouble. They're being dumb.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
That is so far beyond sick and wrong that someone needs to invent a new word for it.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Not something I'd even glance at for free online- I mean...ewww. Right up there with that Bobbit video or Pamela Anderson for creepy.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:An asteroid about the size of one that blasted Siberia a century ago just buzzed by Earth.
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory reported that the asteroid zoomed past Monday morning.
The asteroid named 2009 DD45 was about 48,800 miles from Earth. That is just twice the height of some telecommunications satellites and about a fifth of the distance to the Moon.
The space ball measured between 69 feet and 154 feet in diameter. The Planetary Society said that made it the same size as an asteroid that exploded over Siberia in 1908 and leveled more than 800 square miles of forest.
Most people probably didn't notice the cosmic close call. The asteroid was only spotted two days ago and at its closest point passed over the Pacific Ocean near Tahiti.
Hardly any warning with this one, and we wouldn't have been able to do anything if it were on an intercept course.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
OH MY GOD WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE STRETCH MARKS???
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I'm sure there's a kink for that.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
True.
Also, random thought re: that asteroid: Why is it a "near-miss"? If it's a near-miss, isn't it a hit?
(Also. MUAHAHA. I'm the 666th post in this thread.)
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
^ Same thing George Carlin said about aircraft "near-misses".
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
It just never ends....link below.
quote: And another one bites the dust. That's two publicists Whittier's Nadya Suleman has burned through since the birth of her octuplets (in vitro babies #7-14) at the end of January.
First, the Killeen-Furtney group withdrew their pro bono services after receiving a few too many violent threats (over 100) regarding their choice to rep the unconventional single mother on disability. Now publicist Victor Munoz has revealed "he quit as Suleman's rep Friday night," according to USWeekly.com. The professional ringleader explains why he's leaving the Suleman circus:
"It just got to be too much," he says. "It's pretty much a free for all over there right now. They are freaking out right now.
"Not to sound arrogant, but those people depended on me for everything," he continues. "You have no idea what I’ve had to do for these people.
"Nadya got real greedy. This woman is nuts," he adds. "This I can say: what ultimately destroyed the business arrangement was personal reasons."
Suleman seems to be struggling to maintain even the slightest grasp on positive press these days...
Last week Whittier police released disturbing audio tapes of her frantic 911 call when her son went missing; they also revealed the Suleman house had been visited multiple times by their officers and child services in the past several months. Further, her wish to sell the video of her giving birth is more fodder for lampooning, while gossip sites like RadarOnline have happily used her to find success for themselves.
Although she's rumored to be getting hefty cash for her "exclusive" video and longhand legal-pad "blogging" she is not netting the $2 million in endorsements she longs for, and recently turned down a local non-profit's offer for 24/7 childcare help because they wouldn't allow her to film an as-yet secured television reality show while they were working with her children .
Suleman is under pressure to prove she can provide for her children; the Bellflower hospital where the octuplets are staying may not release them to her, while the home she shares with her parents (and brood) may soon be in foreclosure. No word on if she's interested in adult entertainment company Vivid's offer for her to earn up to $1 million starring in a skin flick.
I'm really concerned for those kids. Somebody's got to get them out of there.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
It's people like her that make me wish there was a phantom zone.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by B.J.: I'm really concerned for those kids. Somebody's got to get them out of there.
Sadly, they're in no worse a position than many in the Child Services system- the publicity almost insures they'll be looked after by someone.
Nuts though she may well be, child exploitation for fame and fortune is hardly new: look at those isiotic channels that show specials on "multiples" as such a "blessing" while never the downside: the attention lavished on the stressed parent (in the show encourages attention seekers like this woman.
Where is the father in all this?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I assume he's just a number somewhere.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Actually, I think they have already identified the 'donor' as her boyfriend. I still think that they should hold the fertility doctor financially responsible for the children based on malpractice.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Well according to my local paper Suleman's father just bought her a half million dollar home with donation money. I bet you it's mostly from the large porn watching population that would rather give her money to not take her clothes off...
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Fucking Wal-Mart. Heard a story once where a guy bought an air conditioner, the last one they had and the last one on the city, only to get it home and find it was a box of rocks.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Almost certainly a swich made at the company or, in the porno case, someone at the store playing "games". Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I'm not sure what bugs me more...the fact that the courts have the right to rule and force a person to go against their beliefs, or the fact that there is a religious sect out there which makes 13 year old boys village elders...
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
And then, of course, there are alchemist germs. And they cause autism. AND THIS IS A SCIENCE TEACHER Orac's quoting.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I cant imagine the rage the victim's family must feel over this bullshit. And they wonder why people have no faith in the criminal justice system. Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
That's sickening, that university should be ashamed of itself.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"I'm not sure what bugs me more...the fact that the courts have the right to rule and force a person to go against their beliefs, or the fact that there is a religious sect out there which makes 13 year old boys village elders..."
Well, of course they should be able to force the kid to go against his "beliefs". He's thirteen. He can't have beliefs.
As for the adults... Well, when your beliefs involve murdering children via willful neglect, a line has been crossed. Freedom of religion may have very wide boundaries, but it does have boundaries.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, obviously, this case is an extreme, because a kid's life is in danger, but if they can do it in this case, what stops them from doing it in other cases, that aren't as serious, and don't involve the endangerment of one's life? It's basically saying, "we don't agree with your beliefs, so suck it.". At least, that's how I'm interpreting this.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Nonsense- parental decision making has always stopped at the point where a child's health may be endangered.
It's the whole reason for Child Services- some assholes simply can not be trusted to care for their children.
To the Law, that includes intervention when Parents do nothing but pray that supernatural intervention will abate a readily treatable disease at the cost of a child's suffering....and punishment for Child Endangerment and Criminally Negligent Homicide at the minimum.
To allow this is to open a floodagte of legal defense for every abusive parent out there. Every child beater will just recite some bible verse and rally the religous extremist fringe to their "cause".
Posted by Blue387 (Member # 2157) on :
Can you imagine saying "This is my Twin Half Brother"?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
When I clicked that link, I saw that one of the stories they link to on the side is about the cancer kid mentioned earlier. Apparently, he and his mother have fled from the authorities.
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
When I linked to the cancer story, the have-your-say column was a lady who's mum "beat" cancer by meditation and reiki instead of drugs, and is now some sort of guru.
Well love, I'm sure you're mum's very happy, but I doubt that this kid will get better if he praises God and stops eating.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
He might if his parents stopped eating though. And breathing. That too.
This wonderful piece of humanity and his two pals did a home invasion in Iraq, shot a 14 year old girl's parents in front of her, gang raped her and then this gem shot her. In the face.
His defense team does not even try to dispute what happened, they claim that stress of being in combat affected his judgment.
As we would be, the Iraqis are irate:
quote: Haidar Kadom, 31, a Shiite teacher in Baghdad, called the sentence "a mockery of Iraqi rights."
"If an Iraqi did the same to an American female soldier, he would be regarded as a terrorist and would be sentenced to death," he said.
Steven Dale Green's father was relieved at the verdict and said "At least this way he can some kind of life".
Unlike that 14 year old girl. the one who's parents he murdered. and gang raped. and shot in the face.
Oh, and he was a U.S. soldier at the time- shaming everyone wearing a uniform and, really, the entire United States.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Sounds terrible! I think you linked to the wrong article though. I just skimmed it, but it doesn't seem to mention this anywhere.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Here is the correct article.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Jason:
quote:Unlike that 14 year old girl. the one who's parents he murdered. and gang raped. and shot in the face.
It's amazing that the movie "In the valley of Elah" doesn't come close to this tragedy. The pathology is the same, though. A momentary (sociopathic) and total absence of inhibitions. But in "Elah", both perpetrator and victim were shitfaced drunk and flew off the handle. In the case of Pfc. Steven Green and his Merry Men, they'd planned the whole thing well ahead.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yeah, the whole "planned the whole thing ahead" bit contradicts the "momentary (sociopathic- shell-shock)" defense- this was certainly not some recent psychotic break for these soldiers.
It always strikes me as strange how, in places with no death penalty, the same sentence is given for one murder or multiple murders, the same sentence for a single crime of passion as for some atrocity like this.
They could at least sentence him to some prison in Death Valley or to a cell with no furniture or something.
Best of all! His two accomplices will one day be elegible for parole! Fuck's Sake! I'd hope some journalist drags this story into the spotlight whenever these people come up for parole and get people outraged enough to quash it. But they're elegible for parole in as little as TEN YEARS. People go away for longer for stealing fucking money! Bernie Madoff? That "menace" will die in a cell while these monsters are enjoying freedom. The same freedom you and I enjoy.
Shit like this makes me lose faith in a better humanity- one that survives far into the future. One that I'd not feel ashamed belonging to.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
The whole balloon boy crap has been in the news lately. With pretty much the day after being considered a hoax. Ft Collins is only an hour north of me in Denver. So I've heard more about it than most people. It doesn't surprise me really. These parents called the local news channels before the police.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
*grins* Well, everyone knows, that stupid people arn't always evil people. i'm certain they didn't mean things to go so... funny. well, the fines they'll pay shoul teach them enough...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I wonder how many children really went missing during all this though- kids in real danger that might have been halped by the publicity.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
God, I couldn't stand these morons and their inflatable Jupiter 2.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
I wasn't sure if it was approp to create a new thread, as this isn't directly related to ST per se. Regardless, my thoughts and prayers to the Koenig family...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Oh man I was following this story, how awful.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
O.o wow. well, its not like ive heard this before. Several years ago, on the Conny i think, the MO (AIMD Officer) was arrested for dealing dope & other shit...
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Wait, you're just hearing about Russel Williams now?
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
since ive retired, i either glance at the paper, listen to NPR or sometimes look at msnbc.com.... cotherwise i watch Law & Order. thats it. this guyhasnt been on the media radar that i know of...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Nice. They burned his uniforms in effigy. Speaking of soldiers getting caught... Lamest Excuse...EVER.
yeah they were so morally outrged taht they broke in to the dispensary...not to steal the pot, but to destrooy it. Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Now you be fabulous in the afterlife too!
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Oopsies! Stupid internet...move along folks...no double post to see here.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Nice. They burned his uniforms in effigy. Speaking of soldiers getting caught... Lamest Excuse...EVER.
yeah they were so morally outrged taht they broke in to the dispensary...not to steal the pot, but to destrooy it.
ROFLCopter! Totally epic fail! well, im very ignorant of Army posts, who does what or trains to do what-ever, but i guess these dolts probably didnt even deploy yet with thier units. total retards. i certainly know they will get busted out with OTH or even BCD
actually, when you think about it in terms of social long-term POV, its just 3 potentially even shittier retards likely to get even more arrest time, once they get out from thier current situation... in a couple years... O.o
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Leslie Nielsen is dead at 84 from complications from pneumonia.
RIP Leslie, loved you in Dracula: Dead and Loving It.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
yep. One of the funnier folks of my generation... ok my Dad's generation... Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Followed by Irvin Kershner, director of "The Empire Strikes Back"...
To think that this soft-spoken and mild-mannered man made the Hoth invasion, the Bespin Duel and Boba Fett a part of pop culture history, while freezing his ass off on location in northern Norway.
[ November 30, 2010, 07:24 AM: Message edited by: Nim ]
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Still...both of these major talents were in their 80's- a good long run by any measure.
Leslie Nielsen had been in over 100 movies and 1500 TV episodes! That's got to be some kind of record.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
California Sunshine... I so wanted to say something mean there but... i oddly didnt have the heart....
so i'll say it here Hey, i guess this explains why the rich (in cally want taxt breaks. 'cause their homes keep getting nuked, LOLs.) keep wanting thier tax breaks...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Don't drink the brown water, it'll give you a bad trip. Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Maybe someone sold him fake coke? That would be sadly ironic.
Or it was planted.
Or the shadowy world of talcum trafficing finally attracts the attention of the mainstream news services.
Still...nothing in that makes sense- he was taken to a parking lot to relieve himself- in cuffs- and managed to break away and...er...kill himself.
Man, that's as bad a lie as the pot dispensary guys from the last page. I wonder what the guy's tox-screen showed...and if that report can be trusted, given the circumstances?
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
once NCIS gets the body, itll be solved... hopefully
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
well, from my experiances, this means the end of anything fun, remote or extreme on ships. this must have happened during 2005-06 on The big E. The Media dept has always done some form of satire and generally nothing either memorable nor contrevesial. at least nothing like whats in this report.
im really glad i'm retired. this shit will totally fuck over what you can do. itll be more like, never again.
or rather, more Big Bingo cause you can't fuck that on SITE-TV... can you?
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
idiots. Watch his trigger finger and see how much time he keeps it on the trigger (instead of extended along the gripe or body, when you dont intent to shot) But this is what gun idiots do in thier spare time. though i have a question: are you allowed to discharge firearms like that in rural areas? do the cops keep a blind eye (i imagine so, in such WASP/Redneck settings...) to this kind of thing?
i do hope the cops see this video and arrest him for being a dumb ass and youtubing it...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Nothing ilegal about being an idiot on your own property- you can shoot at targets all day.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Even naked?
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
That mostly depends on your neighbors...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I actually subscribe to this dude on YouTube, and follow his videos rather closely. He is very safe with all his shooting, and this private range in on several dozen acres of property that he owns (former farmland, I believe). If it was dangerous...he wouldn't be doing it.
I'm no fan of defending idoits with guns who do stupid shit and make all of us gun owners look bad...but this guy is in fact a stand up and knowledgable guy (at least, he appears to be in his videos), so I don't mind defending him one bit.
If I had all that property, you bet I'd do some shooting.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
*grumbles* agreed. in principle, at least. (cause i do like the abstract idea of being able to do that, but i can still see little timmy, being lost in the woods getting nailed by a stray bullet...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I'd asume all reasonable precautions are taken (fenced in property, a clear view of the entire range and a good backstop, like the hill in front of which all the targets are set).
But yeah...it's always a risk you face.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I've been thinking about getting a FOID card myself. Police don't prevent crimes, they come in afterwards to photograph the bodies....
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: I've been thinking about getting a FOID card myself. Police don't prevent crimes, they come in afterwards to photograph the bodies....
Nonsense- police stop a huge number of potential crimes every day and we never hear about it- every traffic stop that finds unregistered weapons is a violent crime prevented- every drug seizure may spare dozens of fatalities.
Police are not perfect and I'm certainly a critic of unchecked police power, but they really do cast a wide net that nabs many strange and dangerous things.
If you're looking to carry a gun, you should ask yuorself weither you really need it to feel safe some people do need one-(dangerous jobs, dangerous neighborhoods, etc.)- most dont.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Just having one in the bedside table isn't going overboard. Why shouldn't I have one? It's my right, isn't it? Besides, just because the police do stop a lot of crime isn't really an argument that you should trust them completely with your own personal safety, every time.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
ok, some questions before you get a gun.
1) are you familiar with:
Gun safety? Qualified and/or authorised by law (felons can never get a gun licence i think)? Your state laws on self-defence, with the use of firearms in your home/on your property? Your state laws on self-defence, with the use of firearms when NOT in your home/on your property?
2) Do you have children:
do you have a safe location for storage that is both accessable to you in a emergency but still relatively safe from the reach of children?
a good bad guy's lawyer could still try to fuck you, if your still somehow in the wrong. so bone up on all your required reading.... and thats just what i understand or have heard mentioned in media for the states. im not even sure for any other part of the world...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Just having one in the bedside table isn't going overboard. Why shouldn't I have one? It's my right, isn't it? Besides, just because the police do stop a lot of crime isn't really an argument that you should trust them completely with your own personal safety, every time.
That's certainly your call- I'm all for personal responsibility when one's safety is concerned- I'm only asking you to examine why you'd need one. If you feel you have more security and are safer with a gun, then by all means take a gun safety course and buy a gun.
But if it's just some fantasy of stopping bad guys like in the movies, or just think "Guns R Fun" like the tool in the linked video, I'd advise against it.
Either way, I think you'd be both safer and more personally secure with a self defense course, possibly followed up with some martial arts.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I don't fantasize about shooting guns at bad guys. I'm pretty sure I'd vomit if I had to shoot an intruder. But at least I'd be ok. And of course I'd be concerned with gun safety...it's a machine designed to kill Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Sounds like you'd be happier spending several hundred dollars elsewhere. Dance lessons, prehaps.
Women prefer men that can dance to those packing heat. Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
quote:
But if it's just some fantasy of stopping bad guys like in the movies, or just think "Guns R Fun" like the tool in the linked video, I'd advise against it.
Either way, I think you'd be both safer and more personally secure with a self defense course, possibly followed up with some martial arts. [/QB]
I'd say that the fact that guns are fun is reason enough to own a gun. I hope never to have to shoot anything other than a tin can or paper target, but I still get a lot of enjoyment out of owning and shooting the firearms and air rifles that I own. When I'm of age to go through with a pistol permit, I will. Not only because I would like to carry (no, I don't live in a dangerous place, nor am I planning to be a cop. But it's my right, so I am going to.), but because the few times I have been to a range to shoot pistol, I enjoyed it. It was fun.
In the self defense role, I have no delusions about shooting bad guy...I hope I never have to. But, I'd rather carry a gun and never, ever need it than one day find myself in a situation where I'd be able to say, "Shit, I wish I had my gun", and not have it. A gun is a tool. It's the same reason I carry a knife, really. It's a valuable tool capable of cutting, slicing, dicing, and just about every other task you want to put it to. I have no intention of ver stabbing an attacker (and I'd be worse off than if I had a gun, because knife fighting takes more skill than close range pistol work), but some of the knives I carry are more than capable of being pressed into a self defense role. I never purchase or carry a knife specifically for that reason though.
As for the argument that the police stop a ton of crime, yes, they do. I thank them for that. However, if some nut opens fire on a crowd of people in the mall I'm shopping at, and I happen to be armed, am I going to let that guy kill X number of people while I wait for the cops to get there? I wouldn't feel right about that. I would rather put my gun to good use, consequences of law be damned, than let people die.
The appreciation of guns is twofold, in my eyes. There's the practical value they hold, as a tool for self defense and hunting, etc, and then there's the collect-ability , same as stamps, basically. Some find guns to be beautiful works of art, worthy of a place in their safe. In owning an 1873 Colt Peacemaker, you're owning a bit of history. So if Greg (the man in the video) is a nut, than I am too. Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
You yanks and your guns. Its cute, really.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean:
quote:
But if it's just some fantasy of stopping bad guys like in the movies, or just think "Guns R Fun" like the tool in the linked video, I'd advise against it.
Either way, I think you'd be both safer and more personally secure with a self defense course, possibly followed up with some martial arts.
I'd say that the fact that guns are fun is reason enough to own a gun. I hope never to have to shoot anything other than a tin can or paper target, but I still get a lot of enjoyment out of owning and shooting the firearms and air rifles that I own. When I'm of age to go through with a pistol permit, I will. Not only because I would like to carry (no, I don't live in a dangerous place, nor am I planning to be a cop. But it's my right, so I am going to.), but because the few times I have been to a range to shoot pistol, I enjoyed it. It was fun.
I see nothing wrong with that- act responsibly with your firearms and it's all good. I like hitting the range on occasion myself (though I dont feel the need to own one- I just rent one of the range's .45's).
quote: In the self defense role, I have no delusions about shooting bad guy...I hope I never have to. But, I'd rather carry a gun and never, ever need it than one day find myself in a situation where I'd be able to say, "Shit, I wish I had my gun", and not have it. A gun is a tool. It's the same reason I carry a knife, really. It's a valuable tool capable of cutting, slicing, dicing, and just about every other task you want to put it to. I have no intention of ever stabbing an attacker (and I'd be worse off than if I had a gun, because knife fighting takes more skill than close range pistol work), but some of the knives I carry are more than capable of being pressed into a self defense role. I never purchase or carry a knife specifically for that reason though.
See, that's where we differ- A gun is NOT a tool. It's sole use is as a killing weapon, whereas a knife has many uses- and self defense is the very least likely of those. I carry a knife every day and use it almost every day- and I've never needed it for self defense.
quote: As for the argument that the police stop a ton of crime, yes, they do. I thank them for that. However, if some nut opens fire on a crowd of people in the mall I'm shopping at, and I happen to be armed, am I going to let that guy kill X number of people while I wait for the cops to get there? I wouldn't feel right about that. I would rather put my gun to good use, consequences of law be damned, than let people die.
That's he myth the NRA is pushing these days- that gun rampages can be prevented or curtailed y everyone packing heat. It's never ever happened, and police are very strongly opposed to people getting into a shootout in public places- even police officers, trained for such situations, occasionally miss and hit civillians. In a virginia Tech type of situation, where there are conflicting reports of how many shooters there are and where they are, a civillian is as likely to be targeted by police- and to cause more panic than to be of real assistance.
quote: The appreciation of guns is twofold, in my eyes. There's the practical value they hold, as a tool for self defense and hunting, etc, and then there's the collect-ability , same as stamps, basically. Some find guns to be beautiful works of art, worthy of a place in their safe. In owning an 1873 Colt Peacemaker, you're owning a bit of history. So if Greg (the man in the video) is a nut, than I am too. [/QB]
An 1873 Colt Peacemaker (assuming you can afford such a thing) is a far cry from owning a modern arsenal though- an antique tends to apreceate in value (because of it's rairity) while today's mass-produced guns will not.
You viewpoints are valid, though I dont share them in general, but then you're not the type of gun owner that I detest either- the guy with dozens of guns- usually unsecured- that feels A) The Government is coimg to take his precious guns away and needs to stockpile and B) that having an arsenal somehow makes him more free.
Those are what I'd deem "Gun Nuts".
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:Originally posted by Sean: [QUOTE]
But if it's just some fantasy of stopping bad guys like in the movies, or just think "Guns R Fun" like the tool in the linked video, I'd advise against it.
Either way, I think you'd be both safer and more personally secure with a self defense course, possibly followed up with some martial arts.
I'd say that the fact that guns are fun is reason enough to own a gun. I hope never to have to shoot anything other than a tin can or paper target, but I still get a lot of enjoyment out of owning and shooting the firearms and air rifles that I own. When I'm of age to go through with a pistol permit, I will. Not only because I would like to carry (no, I don't live in a dangerous place, nor am I planning to be a cop. But it's my right, so I am going to.), but because the few times I have been to a range to shoot pistol, I enjoyed it. It was fun.
I see nothing wrong with that- act responsibly with your firearms and it's all good. I like hitting the range on occasion myself (though I dont feel the need to own one- I just rent one of the range's .45's).
quote: In the self defense role, I have no delusions about shooting bad guy...I hope I never have to. But, I'd rather carry a gun and never, ever need it than one day find myself in a situation where I'd be able to say, "Shit, I wish I had my gun", and not have it. A gun is a tool. It's the same reason I carry a knife, really. It's a valuable tool capable of cutting, slicing, dicing, and just about every other task you want to put it to. I have no intention of ever stabbing an attacker (and I'd be worse off than if I had a gun, because knife fighting takes more skill than close range pistol work), but some of the knives I carry are more than capable of being pressed into a self defense role. I never purchase or carry a knife specifically for that reason though.
See, that's where we differ- A gun is NOT a tool. It's sole use is as a killing weapon, whereas a knife has many uses- and self defense is the very least likely of those. I carry a knife every day and use it almost every day- and I've never needed it for self defense.
quote: As for the argument that the police stop a ton of crime, yes, they do. I thank them for that. However, if some nut opens fire on a crowd of people in the mall I'm shopping at, and I happen to be armed, am I going to let that guy kill X number of people while I wait for the cops to get there? I wouldn't feel right about that. I would rather put my gun to good use, consequences of law be damned, than let people die.
That's he myth the NRA is pushing these days- that gun rampages can be prevented or curtailed by everyone packing heat. It's never ever happened, and police are very strongly opposed to people getting into a shootout in public places- even police officers, trained for such situations, occasionally miss and hit civillians. In a virginia Tech type of situation, where there are conflicting reports of how many shooters there are and where they are, a civillian is as likely to be targeted by police- and to cause more panic than to be of real assistance. Really, it's amazing how opposed police assiciations are to almost everything the NRA is trying to do leglislation-wise. here in south Florida, cops now have to drive around with assualt rifiles in their cars- a direct result of the assualt weapons ba being lifted (which police groups also were against).
quote: The appreciation of guns is twofold, in my eyes. There's the practical value they hold, as a tool for self defense and hunting, etc, and then there's the collect-ability , same as stamps, basically. Some find guns to be beautiful works of art, worthy of a place in their safe. In owning an 1873 Colt Peacemaker, you're owning a bit of history. So if Greg (the man in the video) is a nut, than I am too.
An 1873 Colt Peacemaker (assuming you can afford such a thing) is a far cry from owning a modern arsenal though- an antique tends to apreceate in value (because of it's rairity) while today's mass-produced guns will not.
You viewpoints are valid, though I dont share them in general, but then you're not the type of gun owner that I detest either- the guy with dozens of guns- usually unsecured- that feels A) The Government is coimg to take his precious guns away and needs to stockpile and B) that having an arsenal somehow makes him more free.
Those are what I'd deem "Gun Nuts".
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
^And I agree completely. I personally plan to own a wide selection of guns someday, but I have no delusions that the government is coming to take away "arsenal". Hopefully, society will never let that happen. And I will always keep my guns secure. It's dumb not to.
I would argue though, that a gun is a tool. Ask any frontiersman 150 years ago, and he'd tell you that his gun is a tool, not a weapon. Yes, it is perfectly valid for self defense, but the primary purpose of a gun was to provide food. In that use, it is a tool. People still use guns for that reason to this day. Knives and guns really only seem to be classified as a weapon when used against humans. But so are other tools. A screwdriver is a tool until I shove it into someone's gut. Maybe it has to do with how a person is exposed to them. If you're raised with the idea that a gun is only used by criminals and cops, then it's a weapon. But I was introduced to guns as tools for hunting, and trained with them under that ideal, and only later accepted that they were also a tool I could use in my own defense if necessary. So I see them as a tool first, and a weapon second. Just a different frame of mind, I guess.
I even see a modern gun as a work of art. Hard to explain, but there's a certain beauty to most guns, regardless of age (and I should have been more specific when I referenced the peacemaker...modern replicas are available, and they are no more functional in today's modern society than the older ones are. Just as beautiful though). I treat my knives with the same attitude. My finely crafted Buck stockmans are just as beautiful as my more modern Spyderco knives. They are beautiful in their own way,
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
sean, guns are machines designed to kill or main what you shot at. its a ranged, projectile firing machine, in the same catagory as throwing spears, axes, bows & crossbows. an axe could also be classified as a tool, as it can be used in mundain ways (chopping wood).
a gun, on the other hand, can never be classified as a tool becuase it was not made to be a tool. it can be used for hunting, yes, but never will you use a gun as a hammer, will you?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well, I would not, no. I'm sure some dumbass had though...someone like this dummy.
Now these are some extreme examples of retards with the same Second Amendment rights you and I enjoy- can you see why I'm for tighter gun regulations? Maybe people where you live are somewhat more developed than the bozos down here or something- it hurts my brain to think the entire country is plagued such morons.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
GUNS ARE OUR FRIENDS AND THEY ARE MADE OF CANDY GIVE THEM TO YOUR CHILDREN
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Jason, that's the thing...I don't have to deal with people like that up here. Those (for the most part) that deal with guns have been raised with them, and those that haven't either stay away from them, or accept them for what they are and go abou their business. I'd just like NY's gun laws to mirror Florida's, at the least...hell, I could probably even live with how picky they are issuing permits, if I didn't have to deal with the 10 round capacity limit. That's ridiculous to me.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
You remind me of another young conservative gunner bloke we had long ago. Thankfully he grew up. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
*rolls eyes* *rolls them again*
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Sean, wtf DO you need more than 10 rounds? o.O
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Bulletproof moose. It's a real problem.
quote:Jason, that's the thing...I don't have to deal with people like that up here. Those (for the most part) that deal with guns have been raised with them, and those that haven't either stay away from them, or accept them for what they are and go abou their business. I'd just like NY's gun laws to mirror Florida's, at the least...hell, I could probably even live with how picky they are issuing permits, if I didn't have to deal with the 10 round capacity limit. That's ridiculous to me.
That's just it though- Florida's gun "laws" are nonexistant- any nut can purchase any gun rom a private seller at a gun show and bypass the background check and waiting period.
Sellers only need a copy of the buyers permit for their records (laughably easy to fake or alter).
Gangs do it all the time- and many "private sellers" unscrupulously sell in bulk to anyone willing to pay.
Somehow the NRA thinks thisis good and has fought to not only maintain this loophole but to make it the baseline for all gun sales- Brady Bill be damned.
quote:Federal Firearm Licensed (FFL) dealers must follow the provisions of 18 U.S. Code, sect. 923(a) which includes conducting an FBI National Instant Check System search on any purchaser of any regulated firearm, including at gun shows.
Most states including Florida, do not restrict private, intrastate sales of firearms at gun shows. Domestic violence abusers, convicted felons, and people who are mentally ill can walk into any gun show and buy weapons from unlicensed sellers.
The Facts: "In one year on average, almost 100,000 people in the U.S. are shot or killed with a gun.
Among 23 populous, high-income countries, 80% of all firearm deaths occurred in the United States.
The impacts of gun violence are estimated to cost U.S. citizens $100 billion annually.
A gun is 22 times more likely to be used in a suicide, criminal assault, homicide, or unintentional shooting than to be used in a self-defense shooting.
Guns are used to intimidate and threaten 4 to 6 times more often than they are used to thwart crime.
Every year there are only about 200 legally justified self-defense homicides by private citizens compared with over 30,000 gun deaths.
A 2009 study found that people in possession of a gun are 4.5 times more likely to be shot in an assault.
It is estimated that over forty percent of gun acquisitions occur in the secondary market. That means that they happen without a Brady background check at a federally licensed dealer. Sales from federal firearm licensees (FFLs) require a background check. Sales between individuals (including at gun shows), under federal law, do not require a background check.
I know the genie of gun oownership can never be out back into the proverbial bottle but sane precautions for preveting felons, psychos and the mentally ill from buying guns should be a no brainer.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
quote:Originally posted by Fabrux: You remind me of another young conservative gunner bloke we had long ago. Thankfully he grew up.
A bit before my time, I take it?
And, for the record, I am far from conservative. Despite my support for gun and knife rights, which is quite strong, I vote democrat, for the most part. While I like my guns and knives, I'd also love for my gay friends to be able to marry, or to be able to afford healthcare when I am out in The World.
Pensive, realistically, 10 rounds should do you. By limiting things like magazine capacity, however, I hate to say it (because it is apparently the typical "gun nut" stance), we're a step closer to having all rights to firearms taken away. I'd hate to see that happen. While I hate NY's laws...I can live with them, and if I can't stand them, I'll move to another state that does support my rights. But once those rights are gone...they ain't coming back. The UK took a similar mentality way back after WWII...and now handguns are plain illegal to own, and they have gone so far as to make all folding knives with locking blades, and blades over 3" illegal to carry, because they pose a "risk to public safety". Instead of focusing on the idiots who are stabbing people, and making sure they don't, they just made sure that no one could carry such knives. This, when apparently most stabbings occur with kitchen knives.
It just bugs me...those that want to limit such "dangerous things" believe that everyone who owns a gun or knife is a danger to society. The problem is that once those who used to be able to exercise their rights responsibly are unable to, you still have to deal with the idiots and criminals who were the real danger in the first place. They will do what they want regardless of what the law says. That's like giving the whole class detention because one asshole wouldn't stop talking, or making cars illegal because a handful of idiots drink and drive.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: A bit before my time, I take it?
No, not really. We were all just astonished when Omega mellowed out.
quote:The UK took a similar mentality way back after WWII...and now handguns are plain illegal to own, and they have gone so far as to make all folding knives with locking blades, and blades over 3" illegal to carry, because they pose a "risk to public safety". Instead of focusing on the idiots who are stabbing people, and making sure they don't, they just made sure that no one could carry such knives. This, when apparently most stabbings occur with kitchen knives.
In Canada you can own guns, but the majority of them I would imagine are hunting implements. I'm not sure about hand guns because, honestly, neither me nor mine ever need them. Simply because no one else has or needs them and we don't have to walk around everywhere everyday scared shitless wondering if today is the day some fucktard is going to shoot at me, either because he's committing a crime or trying to stop someone that is.
quote:That's like giving the whole class detention because one asshole wouldn't stop talking...
Actually, according to my friends that are teachers, this would happen more often than you'd expect. Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Here in Canada most gun owners do use them for hunting, as for handguns I think our laws are pretty similar to the states, take a test, get a license, and you're good. Actually in my area, there's a big stink about knives at the moment. Some 14 year old punk tried to kill a cab driver with a machete a couple years ago. I dunno, I think the kid is lucky that cabbie wasn't a gun owner. If it were me and I had a gun, it wouldn't matter if he were 14 or 40 I'd still put him down. I'd rather be alive and in jail than dead because some punk wanted to play "gangsta".
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: Here in Canada most gun owners do use them for hunting, as for handguns I think our laws are pretty similar to the states, take a test, get a license, and you're good. Actually in my area, there's a big stink about knives at the moment. Some 14 year old punk tried to kill a cab driver with a machete a couple years ago. I dunno, I think the kid is lucky that cabbie wasn't a gun owner. If it were me and I had a gun, it wouldn't matter if he were 14 or 40 I'd still put him down. I'd rather be alive and in jail than dead because some punk wanted to play "gangsta".
Well said. I find it odd that in the states at least, there is really no issue with anyone owning a machete (you can buy them in Walmart for $10), but small folding knives are supposedly a big problem. Boggles the mind.
Fabrux, it's not like those who do choose to go armed in the states are vigilantes. They don't do so because they're paranoid, and they don't do it to stop crime...they do it to defend their lives in the off chance that they are forced into a SD situation. The punk can have my wallet, but as soon as I feel he may shoot or stab me anyway...I will take action. The law isn't exactly on the side of those who act in self defense either, so it's often best to run away and avoid such situations. In some states, when a case is examined, if there was any possible way that the person who acted in self defense could have escaped the situation, and still stabbed or shot the attacker, he/she will most likely go to jail.
In short, running away is always the best choice. But if that avenue is closed...I want other options available.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
quote:Originally posted by Fabrux:
quote:Originally posted by Sean: A bit before my time, I take it?
No, not really. We were all just astonished when Omega mellowed out.
I became an engineer, and decided I wanted systems that work. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean:
quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: Here in Canada most gun owners do use them for hunting, as for handguns I think our laws are pretty similar to the states, take a test, get a license, and you're good. Actually in my area, there's a big stink about knives at the moment. Some 14 year old punk tried to kill a cab driver with a machete a couple years ago. I dunno, I think the kid is lucky that cabbie wasn't a gun owner. If it were me and I had a gun, it wouldn't matter if he were 14 or 40 I'd still put him down. I'd rather be alive and in jail than dead because some punk wanted to play "gangsta".
Well said. I find it odd that in the states at least, there is really no issue with anyone owning a machete (you can buy them in Walmart for $10), but small folding knives are supposedly a big problem. Boggles the mind.
Tough to conceal a machete in your pants though... (insert obligatory joke here).
And owning a machete is not the same as carrying it around with you- though I agree that folding knives are not something to freak out over- in Florida, the blade cant be longer than your hand is wide- and taht's plenty big enough, really.
quote:Originally posted by Omega:
quote:Originally posted by Fabrux:
quote:Originally posted by Sean: A bit before my time, I take it?
No, not really. We were all just astonished when Omega mellowed out.
I became an engineer, and decided I wanted systems that work.
We thought you had a stroke. Good character development on you though- your writers are really doing a lot with you this season.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
In my area I think the blade length limit is 10 cm (4 inches) or less. And of course anything spring-loaded is illegal, but Kershaw knives with the torsion bar aren't, for some technical reasons that may not always apply.
Anyways, the big reason for people having a problem with small folding knives and switchblades seems to be conceal-ability. Someone with a concealed weapon is inherently more dangerous than someone who wears it openly.
I carry my kershaw knife everywhere I go, I use it as a tool at work just like a screwdriver, even though both can be used to stab people...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Everywhere I go, sans a public school, I carry at least one knife. Generally not assisted opening, but almost always with a blade of 3" or more. Usually, it's two, one larger blade, and a smaller, people friendly knife. And yes, "everywhere" includes college. Thankfully, "common pocket knives" are perfectly legal to carry on my campus. NY doesn't have any limit on length, but both folders and fixed blades must be concealed (although I hardly call a knife clipped onto a pocket concealed)...the only thing that is explicitly illegal are automatic knives and balisongs.
That is, unless you decide to go to NYC...in which case a butter knife is a freakin' WMD.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omega: I became an engineer, and decided I wanted systems that work.
And you went in to politics?
Systems that work?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Maybe he's all about the challenge of making broken systems work...or he's engineer enough to see where he can take advantage of the system and become filthy rich! Remember us when we need that last minute pardon, Omega!
quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: I carry my kershaw knife everywhere I go, I use it as a tool at work just like a screwdriver, even though both can be used to stab people...
Which perfectly illustrates the difference between a weapon (like a gun) and a tool like a knife.
My Jacob's Ladder is a weapon- as is my ceramic floding knife- but I dont carry those around (and the 'Ladder is just something I bought because it's so weird).
The whole "assisted opening" thing on knives like switchblades is an intimidation thing- and it's not used for multi-use knives, and so is illegal. Really, I think it's the useage of something that determines weither it's a weapon or not.
Besides, switchblades are obsolete- my lockblade, with a hundred uses, opens at the flick of my wrist. Maybe lockblades could not do that back in the 50's, when spring-loaded blades were invented?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
This thread has been going for over four years, and I only just now noticed that the title says "Todays's".
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
This decade's? No...that's not right at this point.
"Brand new news in a geologic timescale"?
or do you mean the spelling error? That makes me feel all welcome and accepted fors some odd reason...
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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:The defector, Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, has admitted in an interview with Britain's Guardian newspaper that he lied to help bring down Saddam Hussein's regime.
"I had the chance to fabricate something, to topple the regime," he said. "I did this, and I am satisfied, because there is no dictator in Iraq anymore."
He's sooo proud of himself too! This vermin should be hung from his balls untill dead.
(sigh) once again, wars are fought and populations slaughtered because of the actions of a few (or one) asshat.
Someone feed this guy to the families of our roughly 5,200 dead servicemen.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Yeah! Hang him! Like we did to Saddam! Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well..."we" did not do that one- that was all the good and justifiable homicidal people of Iraq.
This one though...well, we deserve to publicly hang a bitch over this clusterfuck too, damnit!
Maybe build the gallows in Arlington National Cemetary among the fallen from this terrible, pointless war.
Huh. I gotta stop following the news- I've been drifting farther towards the Chaotic Evil end of the alignment chart.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I suppose they did not offer a red security bathrobe to avoid litigation from slip and fall deaths, home invasions, etc. Too bad that's only available in the UK- I'd buy one for my roommmate's birthday next month.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
though my official POV of when Mother Nature says 'pown' remains the same [6 Billion people blindly breeding thus cull the herd on occation] or when Darwin Award winners occur, *bites lower lip* i still dont wish ill to folks i may know, in what ever media form that is. I really hope none you folks are screwed up because of the earth quake over there...
oh. and those christian retards's families should be receiving their DA's from FedEx by the end of the week.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The moron is now fired but it really shows the attitude of that state's government towards the protestors.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
I'm sure Koch Industries provide some good services, despite wanting to privatize energy and drive up the prizes, but after reading up on the vastness of their operation, it's hard not to visualize Koch factories with guards in black foam caps and M-16's on catwalks, and workers on the floor with breathing masks and hard-hats that would immediately drop whatever they have in their hands (boxes, racks of test tubes) to start punching and roundhousing anyone who sneaks in that doesn't belong, and then helplessly fall into the acid vat when getting punched back.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Funny, I picture hordes of idiot Tea Partiers voting Republican because they think Democrats are responsible for all the country's ills and that Republicans offer real change. People carrying signs reading "Keep your socialism off my Medicare" while faithfully buying Brawny paper towels and other Koch products.
Or maybe I think of Clarence Thomas accepting a blatant $70,000 bribe from them via the Tea Party employing his wife for...well, I'm sure she did something. (money which he "forgot" to pay taxes on- whoops!)
I almost expect the two Koch brothers to be Tomax and Xamot under padding and latex masks.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I think they're Kang and Kodos. Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Funny, I picture hordes of idiot Tea Partiers voting Republican because they think Democrats are responsible for all the country's ills and that Republicans offer real change. People carrying signs reading "Keep your socialism off my Medicare" while faithfully buying Brawny paper towels and other Koch products.
Or maybe I think of Clarence Thomas accepting a blatant $70,000 bribe from them via the Tea Party employing his wife for...well, I'm sure she did something. (money which he "forgot" to pay taxes on- whoops!)
I almost expect the two Koch brothers to be Tomax and Xamot under padding and latex masks.
In terms of insidiousness, the GI Joe ref is more apt. At least Klingons have honor in their actions...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I think the Kang and Kodos he's refering to is from The Simpsons though.
I have not seen any coverage on this phone prank's implications...but I'd wager it's big news in that state.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
For shame Pensive, you did not get my Simpsons reference. I think the prank call has made some waves in the media, though I feel MSNBC is over playing its relevance.
Pensive, your getting to be a little more offensive than usual. I mean the way you title links and your sig is getting to be a bit jarring.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Sarcasm. its supposed to be dark & flamey-causing. but noted.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
The Outlaw jane has passed... since nobody cares about piracy victums in IO, lets talk about Jane.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Breastmilk Ice Cream...fuck's sake. I try not to think about drinkning stuff excreted from bovines, much less humans.
I dont care so much about the Danish as I do the story's line about "pirate-infested waters ". Like they're bedbugs to be exterminated. If only someone would do a story on the massive industrial (international) fishing fleets operating illegally inside Somali waters that are starving the people of that coastline into desperation. Last generation's fishermen = this generation's pirates.
Naaa! There's never a reason for such acts of extremism- not when darkies kill whites...right?
quote:Originally posted by Pensive's Wetness: The Outlaw jane has passed... since nobody cares about piracy victums in IO, lets talk about Jane.
That's an awesome photograph- masterfully arranged once you realize that people are trained to see a pattern in a "Z" (it's how we read and how the best ads are arranged). "Lets see...dark area at upper left...pretty face at upper right and ...look at those tits!"
Probably not a recent photo, I'm guessing.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
*shrug* I've learned that stupity & discrimination are universal... but this shit makes even me take pause in terms of race. the child was alive when he was murdered in the oven. Oh, she needs to die, painfully by fellow prisoners. please. life in prison is too merciful for this bitch...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
"She was a great parent, a good person. We don't know what's wrong. We don't know what happened. Do not sit there and call her a bad mom cause that's not what she is," Sherrie Robinson told the TV station."
I'm sorry...but any credibility as a decent mother or human being as lost when she put her kid in the oven.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I love the headline "Child found in oven died of heat injuries" Gee...that's a shocker! I figured he'd have drowned but this is waaay more likely...
quote:Originally posted by Sean: "She was a great parent, a good person. We don't know what's wrong. We don't know what happened. Do not sit there and call her a bad mom cause that's not what she is," Sherrie Robinson told the TV station."
I'm sorry...but any credibility as a decent mother or human being as lost when she put her kid in the oven.
I swear, that's grounds for commiting soeone to an insane asylum. "She's a good mom, once you look past the cooking her kid incident! really!"
I love it though- for every brutal crime there's alwys some relative- usually a grandmother- that's telling a news crew "He's a good boy! He was on the Honor Roll!" Yeah, that was before he started selling crack and killing people.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Oddly enough...I go to school next door to an insane asylum...spooky looking place.
Kinda reminds me of Arkham Asylum.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Nothing says "Insanity" like 19th century American Gothic design sensibilities- those copper covered towers must be awesome in a thunderstorm.
It's actually kinda cool looking untill your notice the security fence. That kills the charm.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
(Sighs) Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
my only question is, it this either a joke squence from Boondocks or real?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
I heard about this on the radio today. Apparently its real; produced by Stan Lee and also a comic book. Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Looks extremely weaksauce, "stay in school, kids" and all that, pillar of the community. Needs more Verhoeven. Now a Verhoeven animated show I'd watch. Too bad he's all caught up in period dramas to tap his old Robocop/Recall roots.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Who could ever live down Showgirls?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Hey! There was a lot of expensive boobcraft and upscale sequins in Showgirls. Also Usul no longer needed the weirding module.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Lol, my favorite scene is the chorus line, when the guy tells one dancer this isn't a watermelon patch. Sure could've fooled me. Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
My favorite scene is when the lead actress talks sardonically at everyone and then flashes her bits at the camera oh wait that was the entire first half and last third of the movie. In the middle she eats potato chips in a trailer.
In the immortal words of Robert Davi: "You take care kid. Must be...weird not having anybody come on you".
[ April 06, 2011, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: Nim ]
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I recall at lot of puking at the beginning of the movie too.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Im sure my boss's reply is by GBU, UPS's more explosive means of airmail...
Meanwhile , in Floridah...
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by Pensive's Wetness: Im sure my boss's reply is by GBU, UPS's more explosive means of airmail...
im posting this mostly for me to remind me to sit down with my GF's oldest, to discuss with him about Intranet safety...
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Stumbled across this just now, sounds interesting if it catches on.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
That's awesome. Hope it catches on.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
If they paint an electric car with that stuff I would totally buy it, or even a regular car, can you imagine never having a dead battery ever again?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: If they paint an electric car with that stuff I would totally buy it, or even a regular car, can you imagine never having a dead battery ever again?
Come home and have your solar panel-roofed house charge up your electric car.
Expect utility rates to skyrocket though- they'll jack their prices as energy becomes cheaper to maintain quarterly business plans.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Seath Jackson was hit in the head and shot, but he still tried desperately to flee the home in Summerfield where the attack occurred Sunday, police said.
He was shot again and his body was placed in a bathtub, where his knees were broken so his body would fit in a sleeping bag. He was still alive, so he was shot again, and then his body was burned in a backyard fire pit, according to arrest documents. His ashes were shoveled into paint containers.
Fuck no.
The thing you have to understand about Florida is that the coast is relatively sane (if corrupt at all levels) but it gets crazier as you head toward the center of the state...something about the number of mobile homes causing brain damage...like how power lines make people sick. Mobile homes and murder- aggrivated by the number of pickups and ATV's a person owns.
Everything bad you've ever seen about Florida in movies and TV shows? Totally real.
Makes nihilism a spectator sport.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
does it help you have football incest going on down there too: Gator/noles i mean no wonder nobody in jacksonville gives a shit about the jags? or the bible-Humpers?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Team sports help vent and prepare for the murderous urges. Jocks learn to hur people and vapid teen girls learn that physical attractivness and socal standing are their lever and fulcrums in life.
Add to that volitile mix a state leglislature in love with the NRA and no waiting period or background check for private firearms sales and you get some good, old-fashioned, homestyle, down south murder.
These people were morons- who burns a body in their own firepit?!? For that matter, what kind of freaks need a firepit in Florida!?! It's 88 degrees here this week!
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
same dudes that wondered what was up but didnt give a fuck because they were going to work... *shrug*
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
When the neighbors have guns, people get deaf real selectively.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Ding!, achievement #54 met: experience Schadenfreude while eating a salami sandwich. Never done that before.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
wow. Im so glad i live in Ohio. Parts of the south are wonderful (assuming you ignore the blight, the corruption, the Conderate politics, etc) but fuck that.
Oh course, i'll play the pessemist/Optumist game. The only 'good' that comes from this is the statistics: the republicans will bitch that unemployments rates rise (duh) but the dems will say 'Not as much' (of course not. at least 300 DIED in this storm, thus that's 300 LESS people to FILE for claims, right?
wow. i just managed to really fucking depress myself... Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Wouldn't unemployment rates drop due to rebuilding efforts?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Today, right now: Billy and Kate get married, what sounds like Star Wars music plays during the exit procession.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
wow. Im so glad i live in Ohio. Parts of the south are wonderful (assuming you ignore the blight, the corruption, the Conderate politics, etc) but fuck that.
Oh course, i'll play the pessemist/Optumist game. The only 'good' that comes from this is the statistics: the republicans will bitch that unemployments rates rise (duh) but the dems will say 'Not as much' (of course not. at least 300 DIED in this storm, thus that's 300 LESS people to FILE for claims, right?
wow. i just managed to really fucking depress myself...
All the Republicans that stood on their high horse and refused stimulus money are now screaming to the government to give them cash to rebuild.
Yes, they're blaming Obama for spending too much while demanding money for their own states. Where are the brave Tea Party patriots? Where is their fiscal responsibility in a trillion dollar deficit? I guess they'll get the money from women's clinics and school lunch programs...
mark my words- some asshat will call this "Obama's Katrina" no matter how fast money is doled out or people helped.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Yes and for those of you who didn't catch the royal wedding, here's a very quick summary.
Posted by Irishman (Member # 1188) on :
And now Apple is going to sweep all those news stories off the TV tomorrow with news of the revised iMac. Woohoo!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yeah, Riiiight. Maybe if Steve Jobs was on the Seal team that killed Bin Laden -and he personally killed him with a new IMac, then it might get mentioned.
Maybe.
Posted by Irishman (Member # 1188) on :
No, not Steve-o. He's too rich to do that himself. He'd have Jonny Ive do it. Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
I want to shave Steve Jobs' scalp, in search of the mark.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
"It is a human symbol...the sybmol of the Apple."
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Everything bad you've ever seen about Florida in movies and TV shows? Totally real.
Yeah...that was funny. How many beers does it take before sign language becomes "gang signs"?
Also, why were deaf people having a conversation in a redneck bar? I have never met a deaf redneck (Deafneck?) so it's implausable the two just met for the first time there.
I bet the cops, once the reports were all written and prisoners processed, bust out laughing at the sheer "WTF?" of the whole thing.
Really, they were stabbed but not killed? Even those bozos with the firepit managed to kill someone. If you're going to stab someone sitting in a bar, go for the neck- duh.
The hell of it is, the bus I take goes right by that place- it's a squat cream colored brick block of a dive with no windows. A real life Moe's bar.
quote:Also, why were deaf people having a conversation in a redneck bar? I have never met a deaf redneck (Deafneck?) so it's implausable the two just met for the first time there.
Haven't you ever seen one lighting a dynamite stick from a cigar? (feeling kind of guilty about that last stereotyping. But...not enough to remove it.)
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Hey Jason! hopefully more kids will die now (before they get thier first fuck) and finally do something about that nasty population increase...
who am i kidding, shit like this makes retards fuck & hump all that much harder...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yeah...how..how DARE a doctor be able to ask his disturbed patient with suicidal/violent tendencies if they have a gun!
That violates the God given right of citizens to go on a shooting spree!
How dare a doctor inquire about the safety of a child's home! They can decide treatment for potentially fatal conditions but dont let them ask about pool covers and gun locks...
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
good grief, you'd think Mother fucking Godzilla Nature would be done face fucking the South?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well...that's "South" but not really my South.
God hates mobile homes and one street towns. Pink Flamingos and lawn gnomes? Tordano attractors.
There was a great story on an old lady that lost her house and one of her three cats in a tornado....only to have the cat turn up during her TV interview several days later. The lady broke down and said "I have my cats back and that's all I need".
That old lady knows the Greater Truth- living things matter: everything else is secondary.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Sadly, the cause of people being allowed to decide when and how they'll die, and with dignity, has lost it's most vocal advocate.
Also of note, another of Al Quieda's top jackholes got gacked by a drone attack.
And Sarah Palin's take on the ride of Paul Revere as some pro-NRA mishmash is possibly the funniest thing I've seen her get wrong to date.
quote:He who warned, uh, the…the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringin’ those bells and um by makin’ sure that as he’s ridin’ his horse through town to send those warnin’ shots and bells that uh we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free…and we were gonna be armed.
Every once in a while I think my phiolosiphy of nihilism may be too cynical and there's some slight hope for humanity. Then I see morons like that with literally thousands of loyal followers, ready to defend any idiotic thing she blurts out.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
And what's most funny is that Paul Revere is probably one of the first historical figures American children learn about in school. His ride to warn the revolutionaries about the approaching British is elementary school material. For a person who presents herself as a symbol of America, she sure doesn't know a lot about the country.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
"Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it; those who fail to learn history correctly—why, they are simply doomed."
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I love how anytime she makes an incorrect statement, she attributes it to "gotcha" tactics. She thinks she more infallible that the Pope.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yep. She's employing Fox's recurring theme of "If yuo say you were right all along, people will eventually believe you".
What the press really need to do is ignore Crazy Sarah and focus on Batshit Insane Michelle Bachman.
Fuck, if anyone make Palin look qualified and sane, it's her.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
And the two of them together make Dubya look like a competent statesman. Which is really crazy.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Rick santorum is pretty insane as well- trying to say that abortions hurt the econemy because those potential taxpayers wuld have er...stimulated stuff? He's said repealin Roe vs. Wade is his top priority. Yeah. because the contry's doing so great on everyting else.
In happ irony news, Couple forecloses on Bank of America. Possibly the single funniest lesson that bank will completely not learn.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
That foreclosure store reads like it came from The Onion. Which makes it even more awesome.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
i was gonna comment on that, Jason but i was at the GF's on Babysitting duty, up to my ass in arguments between the minions at one point...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
At least, not when the guy that ran down your citizens has money!
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Unbelievable. Even for this country.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
And people wonder why the "Anti-Hero" like The Punisher has gained such a following. When did common sense leave the justice system?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote: A wealthy heir sentenced to two years of house arrest in a Fort Lauderdale oceanfront condo for killing two British businessmen in a hit-and-run will end up in jail after all — but likely for a scant few months in an unrelated Illinois case.
Ryan LeVin must surrender himself Monday to a jail outside his former hometown of Chicago to await sentencing for violating parole in another traffic case in which he struck a Chicago police officer during a high-speed chase.
LeVin, 36, will remain jailed until the state’s parole board determines a sentence later this summer, said Cara Smith, chief of staff for the Illinois Department of Corrections. His sentence will likely be less than six months, including time spent awaiting the parole board hearing, Smith said.
LeVin, son of a prominent Chicago couple who made millions selling jewelry, sparked outrage when he was sentenced June 3 by Broward County Circuit Judge Barbara McCarthy to two years of house arrest at the condo his parents own at Point of Americas at Fort Lauderdale beach.
LeVin had pleaded guilty to two counts of vehicular homicide and leaving the scene of a Feb. 13, 2009, fatal accident for jumping the curb and running down the businessmen only steps from their hotel on State Road A1A. He was driving a $120,000 Porsche that he is seeking to have returned.
Killed were British businessmen Craig Elford, 39, and Kenneth Watkinson, 48, in town for their pharmaceutical company. Elford had a wife, Claire, and two young daughters. Watkinson left a wife, Kirsty, two sons and a daughter.
LeVin, who initially denied driving the speeding Porsche, faced up to 45 years in prison. But the men’s widows, citing “financial hardship” in letters to the judge, agreed that he stay out of prison as long as he immediately pay them an undisclosed sum to settle a wrongful death lawsuit they had filed against him.
“We have been living in uncertainty and financial need,” Kirsty Watkinson wrote. “The need for restitution does outweigh the need for prison,” McCarthy said.
LeVin initially received probation for the 2006 incident in which the Chicago officer and two motorists were injured. He had permission from the court to travel to Fort Lauderdale to look after his parents’ property, and while there ran over the businessmen and fled.
A Cook County judge revoked LeVin’s probation and sentenced him to two years in prison. He was released after six months and was on parole when Florida police, after a lengthy investigation, charged him with vehicular homicide. LeVin has multiple convictions in Florida, Illinois and Texas for speeding, disobeying traffic lights, improper lane passing, fleeing and eluding police officers, and cocaine possession.
As part of his Florida sentence, LeVin may never drive again, must perform 1,000 hours of community service and wear an electronic monitoring device while at his parents’ condo. He may, however, exercise at one of the condo’s three fitness centers, attend church and go shopping.
The bold areas are my favorite parts- anyone not filthy rich would have been in prison years ago.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
He needs the "50 Cent Solution" applied to him.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Annnd it gets far worse. That case with the two British tourists run down? Turns out the defense lawer was the judge's re-election campaign manager and they're close personal friends.
Fuck's sake.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
^Shouldn't that be grounds to get the ruling overturned? I mean it's a blatant conflict of interest even if you can't prove that there any corruption going on.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Thats pretty sickening. But at the same time justice doesnt really apply to those with multimillion dollar bank statements
Btw im posting this on my new phone while sitting in a hottub. Isnt technogy awesome!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: ^Shouldn't that be grounds to get the ruling overturned? I mean it's a blatant conflict of interest even if you can't prove that there any corruption going on.
Sadly, no. The prosecutors knew about the connection and the judge even offered to recuse herself bu SOMEHOW the prosecution said "meh, What harm could it do?" and just fucking rolled with it.
So no, they cant re-try the case because there was no mistrial: the guy was found guilty on a lesser charge, it's just the sentencing that's so. damn. wrong.
After all, Medicare fraud is a fine art- as our Governor knows too well.
Also, Hugo Chavez has cancer. Ohhhhh yeah. this is gonna turn into the fastest military coup in history once he kickes the bucket- Chavez' brother has already said that he'd use force to "ensure the dream of socialism continues".
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
He went to Cuba for surgery, guess he couldn't trust the proletariat doctors of his country.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Proletariat my ass, they work until noon and then it's pelota the rest of the day.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yeah, it really says something about the confidence in a leader's country if they have to go to Cuba for medical care.
I mean really...Cuba?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Well, if you believe "Sicko" they have the very best medical care there.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Sure they do! A country that cant feed itself or even afford to paint public buildings would have better medical care than...er...
Yeah.
I dont think so- I live in South Florida and every family has horror stories of having to pull someone's tooth themselves or someone that died of a ruptured appendix because hospitals were too far away and ambulance serice is nonexistant.
Of course, if you're Castro's bestest buddy (or a foolish filmmmaker being taken on a propaganda tour) you get the very best!
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
The same Republicans that killed funding for NASA year after year are now lamenting the loss of so many NASA workers.
Lovely.
..and now they're threatening the Webb Telescope too! Fuckers! Slack-jawed, anti-science, creationist bible thumping fucktards!
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
My favorite budgetary tidbit: the entire space shuttle program, over its entire existence, cost $192 billion dollars. The AIG bailout alone cost $186 billion.
How do we define money well spent, again?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Nothing like giving huge sums of cah to people that both warn terrorists and Taliban when US strikes will occur, but also kill journalists that report on the infiltration of extremists within the Pakistani military.
This was loooong overdue.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
sadly, NPR completely lost the point of why he did it- that bit about religous people being allowed to wear "confessional head-dress".
It's getting to the point where the Pastafarian schtick is self-defeating- press becomes about the gag while ignoring the comparison protest.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
It turns out it was a seventeen year old employee who helped put the bear man into bondage. This guy had a real dark past, I'm not too sad he's dead.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well, if Bondage meant "Bad" half of Fort Lauderdale would be right there with Mr Bear. It's actually sad that the news story defined his life by these two incedents- for all we really know, he could have been the coolest uncle or helped save stray kittens or whatever.
So, sail on, bondage-bear dead dude! Second star to the left of Ursa Major...
Also still making news... bwhahHAHAHAA!!!! Now we'll see what a three ring circus the replublcans can make of "investigating" Murdoch's practices here in the States. I imagine they'll go ahead and cannonize him as a saint- possibly lick his boots while he testifies before Congress.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
o.O dude, where you been hiding, Cartman? (we missed you)
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
[Moog synthesizer]I have always been here[/Moog synthesizer]
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Oh Fuck. That bombing and Mass murder in Norway o.O all i can say? it was a easy target, probably, in anti-terror terms :/ that and prayers to those maybe affected...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Crazy- looks like a domestic attack, not international in nature just now.
Still, this does not look like a one-man operation.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
I and most people I know have friends in Norway. First time I got news about this, I thought "please don't let it be Al-Qaeda, let it be nazis or something", well, I got my damn wish, and it didn't make me happier. It's only one guy, a former freemason and "wannabe" templar knight. Some survivor statements point to a second gunman but no conclusive evidence has been found yet.
This guy had apparently planned this for nine years, according to the diary they found, and from his manifesto. He's ultra rightwing, has a deep-seated hatred for leftwing sympathizers and immigrants, especially muslims. So he sets off a homemade fertilizer-bomb in the government district of Oslo as a diversion, hoping to kill as many federal "turncoats" as possible, then he races out to the island and starts his very well-stocked killing spree, at Norway's pan-european summer camp for youth oriented politics and awareness. He uses an assault rifle with expanding bullets, must've had plenty of ammunition. Shoots over 80 kids aged 12-17, little boys and little girls, most of them in the back or lying on the ground. He also picked them off from the beach as they swam off the island, and drowned from the cold.
Apparently he took steroids and other performance enhancers before the big show, to give himself perfect performance. Dresses up as a police officer to lure in as many kids as possible into close range, with claimed news of the city bombing. Survivors say he was laughing and howling with triumphant glee during the 90 minute slaughter. Then he gives himself up to the police, no attempt at suicide. No hint of psychosis or derangement.
The first picture I saw of him showed a tanned and fit man with a smug, shit-eating grin, in a polo shirt with frigging popped collar. Any other day I would've laughed at that face, that air of entitlement, vanity and superiority. He refers to the entire project as "necessary", during interrogations, and looks forward to explain his actions and state his case in court next week.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Wouldn't you be grinning like that if you'd just fulfilled what you think of as your life's work, knowing that no one can undo what you've done, and you're just going to be sent to a resort for the rest of your life? (Not that you would do what that... individual... has done.) There's a lot of stuff wrong with the US penal system, but somehow I think European justice has gone a little too soft for situations like this. (Spoken as a true American outsider, I know...)
Sometimes I think we need inhuman punishments for inhuman people. We just have to be really careful who gets them. (And of course, therein lies the problem.)
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
hope for murder. hope someone else in the prison yard does vengence. you will never, EVER get justice from crimes like this but... you can always hope for vengence... at first i thought AQ because of the target (and the ease of the strike, that city location was ultra soft. perfect for terrorists looking for sheep)... but a blond/blue eyed freak? *shrug*
you know MM says we need inhuman punishment for the inhuman? why cant we just claim a island? and just make a bloodbath island? like Battle Royale?
i'm sure there's a pay-per-view market for this... not that I would watch... x.X
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The best punishment for this monster is to inprison him forever and dedicate every event celebrating diversity, every immigrant welcome and new mosque built in the country to this guy- slap his name on everything he hates and let him fume and rage from his cell, knowing that his actions will not lead to the big anti muslim crusade he'd always hoped for- that they had the opposite effect.
His "message" should not be televised or otherwise distributed in any way- he should be silenced- his trial should not be televised not his exact words (and he'll doubtlessly want to give a speech and interviews)should not be reported.
Fuck this guy- if they wont kill him outright, he should never see sunlight not speak with another person again.
I'm not a big advocate of the death penalty but when a person kills so many innocents, I dont see a prison sentence as adequate punishment.
After all, what is Justice if it's not based on a balancing of scales?
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I kind of like the approach taken in one of the Foundation novels. (I don't remember if it was one of the NEW ones or Asimov's originals).
In the novel there was an incident of terrorism and Hari Seldon's idea was to not publish the name of the culprit, just apply the nomenclature of "Idiot #1". That way there was no immediate fame for him, no case of his name going down in history, just judgement. While I am an absolute advocate of the 50-cent solution, the notoriety that these individuals get from their crimes only goes to encourage others looking to make their sick mark on the world. Not only should their lives be forfeit for such heinous acts, their names should be scratched out from existence.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I try not to be surprised at the shit that asshole spews, and yet somehow, he finds a way.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
ok... who the fuck buys time on his show? or willing to? conmpany's that dont worry about grief from customsters (because they are the only providers of said product?)
o.O
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
Yesterday I saw a pick up truck with a giant US flag on one side, and a Trump flag on the other. And all I could think was, "Remember those photos of pick up trucks with ISIS flags in the back?" I guess Trump extremists and Muslim extremists have one thing in common... I suppose it's fitting that Trump followers are doing what other terrorists did in the past.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Surprised they used the flag of the USA. You would expect someone like that to be more of a CSA fan.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
I know politics, especially right now are a hot topic. Trump is a cancer. He's trying to destroy the USPS just because he's afraid of the mail-in voting system.
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