I'm thinking a Black Mesa-ish type of deal and weird aliens will invade and inslave to human race to which we will unite and kill with crowbars.
But thats just me.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I'd be very surprised if it was THAT easy to destroy a universe. It'd take trillions of Mantrid one arm drones that fly around thingies.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Well, for one, I don't think the universe's ability to be destroyed is subject to our preconceptions. For another, my poll question is more geared toward will WE die, not will the entire UNIVERSE be destroyed I'm thinking it's much easier to destroy (or even just devastate) a planet.
Edit: I voted yes because I don't have the expertise to dismiss all the doomsday worries. I'm always concerned about things I don't understand, but which someone who does understand (or at least claims to) says may be dangerous. I think that's logical. However, Dr. Michio Kaku dismisses them all outright, and I'd trust his judgment most of all about these kinds of things. Still, I've never been one to totally ignore dire warnings - I guess I've seen too many movies
[ March 31, 2008, 04:01 AM: Message edited by: Daniel Butler ]
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Wasn't this the plot of a Stargate episode or something?
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Dan, no, this isn't a badly writing Sci Fi original where the mad scientist has to prove his point at the high chance of killing everyone and everything.
Aban, yes, a couple of badly written Sci Fi originals.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Dan, your question is too broad. Of course we will all die, we are finite beings. Your question should be "Will we all die at our own hands?"
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
I see no option for "ticky." I refuse to vote without a "ticky" option.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Marsie: I thought it'd be self-evident what I meant from the article I linked to
Shik: So that's a yes? Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well I'm to dumb to realize that.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Shik: So that's a yes?
No, that's me telling you there needs to be a box that says "ticky". It's standard.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, did Nostradomus predict this? He was right about pretty much everything else...
Then again, do you think scientists would actually do something that they know or even speculate could destroy the planet or the universe?
Posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot (Member # 239) on :
"He was right about pretty much everything else..."
No.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Okay then.
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: Then again, do you think scientists would actually do something that they know or even speculate could destroy the planet or the universe?
If I was a better scientist I'd not be satisfied until I had destroyed at least a small part of the universe. The wierder physics gets the less intersted I become.
I want ray guns. Until such a time as everyone can run about pretending to be Flash Gordon without having make the noises themselves I don't want any more of that herecy from the likes of Hawking.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I want lightsabers, so I can maim asshats who annoy me.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
That's what a sack full of doorknobs is for.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I always thought it was a burlap bag full of wood nails.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
A sack of nails won't cause quite as much pain me thinks. Seeing as most of the nails would be parallel with the side of the bag, and those few that poke through wouldn't do much damage seeing as there's nothing behind them to drive them into your flesh. Besides, nothing beats blunt force trauma.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Hmmm... Glass door knobs! Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: Then again, do you think scientists would actually do something that they know or even speculate could destroy the planet or the universe?
I think it was Physicist Robert Oppenheimer, the author of "I am become Shiva" quote from the Manhattan project that had speculated before the first test of an atomic bomb that it might very well start a chain reaction in the atmosphere. The result of which would NOT have been good.
AND it is FAR better to use a Cat-o-nine tails with all the embedded little shards of glass and metal tied into the ends.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, I guess I give the Manhattan Project guys a little lee way on the whole " we might destroy the world thing". Afterall, they were trying to make a super weapon to end a war. THis, however, is like a giant 8-billion dollar history/science project.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: Well, did Nostradomus predict this? He was right about pretty much everything else...
Then again, do you think scientists would actually do something that they know or even speculate could destroy the planet or the universe?
Point one, not everything Nostradomus "predicted" was right. He couldn't even spell Hitler right.
Point two, the scientists who are doing this experiment DON'T suspect there's any possibility of what their critics are saying coming true. Problem is there's probably only about a dozen people on the planet qualified to know which theory is probably right, so our opinions don't really matter.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I don't know if Nostradamus could spell "Hitler" right, but he spelled "Hister" correctly.
Also, while the sentence "not everything [he] 'predicted' was right" is technically accurate, I would argue that the better sentence would be "nothing he predicted was right".
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Sean, we can twist his vague prophecies to fit a lot of things, so, ya, he was right in a vague sort of way.
And, yes Sean, Wiz is right, they did make the bomb, and test it, with mild concerns that the atmosphere would burn away. On the plus side for that though, it would have ended the war a lot sooner if it had.
Rev, publicly anyway, who knows what they are saying amongst themselves.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I am reminded of the Voyager episode "Blink of an Eye" where they witness the first experiments into matter/antimatter production on that planet.
When I first read about it - I had a thought in the back of my mind along the same lines of the critics warnings... trying to recreate the conditions from around start of the universe... on the surface of the Earth? Shit!
Hmmm when does this large Hadron collider go-online? It's not Dec 22nd 2012 is it? Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
Destroy all of humanity in a gigantic space kablooie caused by nothing other than our own curiosity about how the universe works? Sounds like a plan to me.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
quote:Well, did Nostradomus predict this? He was right about pretty much everything else...
No, he was vague enough that people managed to apply his prophesies to "pretty much everything else". What could have been said of this prophesy-wise? "A great light consumes the world". Ooh, the atomic bomb or Edison's lightbulb? "Darkness will spread in a flash from the last empire". Is that the cultural revolution in China, mecha-Putin's rise to power or perhaps a sudden decision by Microsoft to release Windows Vista for free?
Regarding this test, I'm more worried that reaching the absolute zero temperature would make earth freeze over in a millisecond. I mean, if it's been fighting us to stay out of reaching it as hard as it has, for as long as it has.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Of the alleged 946 predictions attributed to Nostradamus, only about 70 are considered to have had some kind of fulfillment. That works out to less than a 7-percent success rate. However, regarding the �successes,� M�Clintock and Strong�s Cyclop�dia comments that many are considered to be the �bold forgeries� of his interpreters, including the prediction of his own death. Others were �composed after the events to which they seem designed to refer.� Some are �strained� in their application and some are shown to have �fulfillments� in a number of different events.
Andrew: I'm not positive, but I think late July? Anyway, this summer.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Nim, that would ruin the global warming trend.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: I always thought it was a burlap bag full of wood nails.
It's "Bag of Hammers"
I joined the Bull shit line that was forming coming into the thread. I kind of hope they do open a black hole. No more meaningless freakin meetings at work. Yes, I'd get sucked into a Black Whole for that.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Thank y'all. I just learned a bit of history. Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: I don't know if Nostradamus could spell "Hitler" right, but he spelled "Hister" correctly.
Also, while the sentence "not everything [he] 'predicted' was right" is technically accurate, I would argue that the better sentence would be "nothing he predicted was right".
Just how anal retentive does a person have to be to correct an Englishman on his grammar?
Besides, "not everything" isn't the same as "nothing", mathematically speaking.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I don't know why you people worry so much. There was a news report on TV stating that everything will be okay. Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Oh my god. The 80's...
Posted by OverRon (Member # 2036) on :
lol and I just saw a report on the news talking about Rickrolling.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Holy fuck. Someone finally rickrolled Flare.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
HAPPY APRIL FOOL'S DAY!!!
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
baahhhh hummmm bug
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Besides, 'not everything' isn't the same as 'nothing', mathematically speaking."
Yes. Which means, somehow, you've seen and commented upon the point, while still entirely missing the point.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
He didn't seem to predict this thread, so I find him lacking a certain, mmmm, I dunno, exactness that he could not have written something that tells of this thread.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
Does Rick atley even know about Flare? Even if he did I doubt he would have predicted a Nostrodumbass thread. I bet he can spell Hitler though.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Dragging this back on topic, this article has a lot of pictures of the nearly-ready collider. Very cool!
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Wow that thing is huge.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Speaking of all this - I have one site telling me there's ~32 days left till activation, and another telling me ~2. I don't know which is correct because I can't find the activation date anywhere on the official LHC or CERN sites! Does anyone know?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
We should all so get plastered just prior to activation: just in case. We could try to tell everyone else at the bar how the world is ending, but who'd believe a bunch of drunk sci-geeks?
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I think they might have trouble even believing the drunk part.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
"Some say that the Large Hadron Collider will spell the end of the world. Heres my theory on how this will happen.
The LHC, which actually stands for Large Hardon Collider, will propell two large hardons towards each other at faster-than-light speeds. The result of this is that for a fraction of a second, the balls will touch but time won't have caught up and thus even though the balls are touching, it won't be gay.
The end result of this is a paradox; balls touching whilst not being gay. This will cause the immediate area to go up in a fiery conflagration that will make the Tsar Bomba H-bomb test look like a firecracker!"
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
So...isn't there some "don't-post-NSFW-pics-without-warning" rule here?
Not that I mind, you know, flying penises or whatever.
So nobody knows when it's going online then?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Actually, I don't think Flare has ever had a NSFW policy. Never needed one, really. Just like we don't have a cuss filter; everyone's mature enough.
Plus, most people that browse Flare at work don't have restrictions on content, I'd wager...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Mm, I agree, I just thought somebody mentioned such a rule at some point.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot: "He was right about pretty much everything else..."
No.
True. He never predicted how popular Ophra would become, failed on SUV's replacing all other forms of mASS transportation, nor did he get it right about the Cleveland Browns winning the '07 World Series 12 games to 4... Kosar even scored a goal from a 1000' feet... in bunny slippers...
Sorry. I spent a week a sea and i'm really, really confused... LARP Navy, Baby.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
quote:Originally posted by Fabrux: Actually, I don't think Flare has ever had a NSFW policy. Never needed one, really. Just like we don't have a cuss filter; everyone's mature enough.
Plus, most people that browse Flare at work don't have restrictions on content, I'd wager...
I do have rules, but I love top break rules. I'm not supposed to use the computer for anything but work.
(While I am all for editing the heck out of you people, I fear that wiping out sort-of-lame Superbad-era sensibilities would leave more dead than alive.)
I like these photos from National Geographic.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Pfft, no collisions until 'later this fall' see? STILL no firm dates for the destruction of Earth.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well, I'm always working on it. Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
"Yes, it's the Apocalypse alright. I always thought I'd have a hand in it..."
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
...and in the fashion of stroking at it, right? *giggles* truely horid
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
That'd be a hand *on* it, one would think.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Y'kbow...I'd personally like for the universe to end within my lifetime (thus ending it, but hey, some sacrifices gotta happen to grease the wheels). Really...consider the magnitude of the event and the fact that the human mind can not really convieve of the world going on after it ceases to extist and you'll be forced to agree.
Of maybe I'm just a narcissistic prick. Whatever works.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
The universe always ends when you die. It's all in our heads.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Speak for yourself, I plan to live forever.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Thank you, Will Riker.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
"Damn, that was some party..."
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Well, they tuned it on today, but we're still here. But that doesn't mean anything, because they haven't yet crossed the streams, and won't for quite some time. I really like the way this article puts it: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/10/lhc_day_is_not_today/ Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Biiig article in the paper today: a mention about people's fears on micro black hole creation as well.
They pointed out that a fringe of people are always concerned about such things whenever the science community is excited about a new project. Fraidycats, that's what they are.
Of course, there's the far right that think such questions of "big" science are best left to God and research into cosmic mysteries is money wasted....taht such mysteries belong to the Allmighty alone. Morons, that's what they are.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Humans, that's what they all are Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
Well if it causes the destruction of the earth, we have NOOOTHING to worry about anymore, right?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Unless black holes are interdimensional gateways to hell or something. God, that would suck and Stephen Hawking would really have egg on his face. Plus fire, brimstone, and caked filth from a thousand generations of tortured and maimed human souls.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Addendum: I have found webcams set up in the LHC which are interesting.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Oh my God, someone save the pocket protectors!
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
There were reports of a large gravitational disturbance occurring but it was attributed to Tim.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
(My first thought: They spent money on a domain name for this?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Unless black holes are interdimensional gateways to hell or something. God, that would suck and Stephen Hawking would really have egg on his face. Plus fire, brimstone, and caked filth from a thousand generations of tortured and maimed human souls.
You're thinking of the janitor closets at McDonalds.
Black Holes are where odd socks, loose change and contact lenses go.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QB]You're thinking of the janitor closets at McDonalds.[QB]
Nope. The bathrooms at the Arapahoe County DMV in Aurora, Colorado.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Maybe the black holes in bathrooms lead to other dsgusting bathrooms....kinda a "Flushgate" kinda thing.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by HopefulNebula:
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: You're thinking of the janitor closets at McDonalds.
Nope. The bathrooms at the Arapahoe County DMV in Aurora, Colorado.
No. Engineering heads aft of frame 1what-ever. Trust me...
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
Maybe it has and the universe is rapidly contracting inward towards the collider (from the extreme edges first) at the speed of light- giving us billions of years to make innane websites heralding the End.
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I'm thinking it's much easier to destroy (or even just devastate) a planet.![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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