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The_Tom
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*strikes a few matches*

OK, hows about a good ol' fashioned West-interfering-in other government thread? Might get this place back to its usual flaming self.

Let's start with four words:

NATO

Kosovo

Milosevic

Airstrikes

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RW
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Milosevic is a pr*ck, he (hey, whazzat "he" doing there?) diplomacy doesn't work with him, airstrikes are the only option, but these make matters only worse. So there are no real options..

[This message was edited by RW on March 23, 1999.]


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First of Two
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*Drops major nukeage*
Fight's over, let's go home.

Reminds me of the way my dad used to "settle" fights between my brother and myself:

"Okay, if you want to settle this you guys can go outside and fight until only one of you is standing... Then HE'LL have to fight ME."
A smart kid (which Milosevich apparently is not) realizes that this would result in annihilation, so the fighting ends.

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Orion Syndicate
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Milosevic = [insert your own insults here]

He needs to die, I just hope it's as horrible a death as the one he's putting those innocent Kosovan citizens through. What he's doing is genocide, nothing less so the bastard needs to be brought down a peg or two.

However, I fear that the strikes will strengthen his position in Serbia. He's clever. A murderer yes but still clever.

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RW
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he is a very intelligent guy, more intelligent it seems than NATO, and they should have dealt with him earlier.
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Curry Monster
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Well, they're authorised airstrikes. Can someone remind me why the USA is involved in this? Please? I don't mean any kind of so called moral vision,(Aka propaganda) I mean real, hard, strategic concerns.

If it was a case of saying the USA is the only one capable of inflicting pain on Milosovic I'd disagree. So, tell me, why is the USA in Europe?

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Saltah'na
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Serbians are comparing Canada to Serbia, in the sense that Kosovo is a province of Serbia, and Quebec is a province of Canada. Serbians were at the U.S. consulate in Toronto to protest the bombing of Serbia, saying it is a internal matter, and Kosovo is part of their traditional land. They claim that Canada also considers Quebec part of their traditional land, and would prefer the U.S. to butt out of these affairs.

Here's something for you, Serbs..... We don't mercilessly kill innocent civilians.

Fact (not sure if completely true): After the Bosnia incident, the Serbs started to arrest Kosovo separatists. Two Serb police were killed when several separatists tried to flee. The next day, 24 innocent civilians were executed by police of being suspected separatists, and suspected murderers. Feel free to correct me on this one.

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bryce
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Daryus:


World War III

The first started in that same region, by largely the same people. Only thing the situation needs is a Hitler.

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Chimaera
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First of all, although what the Serbians are doing(and have done) in Kosovo is completely inexcusable, the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) does not escape without blame either. Some of their attacks on Serb positions went beyond self defence and were meant to provoke the serbs into doing even more, thus dragging NATO in, since they know they can't beat the Serbs on their own.

Judging by the news on the net, bombs will start dropping any hour now. I am rather curious how much of an effect they can have on Serbia's resolve and how much damage (if any) Serbia can do to NATO. It is interesting that NATO commanders have been saying that they expect to take losses from Serbian air defences. NATO may have gotten itself into a war where it expected just a short strike or so.

Am I the only one who is concerned that NATO is organizing this action and not the UN? Technically, NATO has no responsibility to countries outside of its membership, and at least the UN has the appearance of being a little more than an American and British puppet. The Americans have really crippled the UN (by, for example, not paying the dues they owe), I suspect because they grew tired of not getting their own way all the time.

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The conflict in Yugoslavia is very much an outgrowth of the Cold War. Hence, NATO.

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Warped1701
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And since the US is the most powerful member of NATO...you figure it out.

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Montgomery
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Not going to be all that fierce a thread, since we have no Serbian posters and I doubt anybody would assume the mantle of apologist for them.

I say: Strike now, because you said you would. Better anything than yet MORE prevarication and bumbling over endless "final warnings".

World War 3? Naaaah. Not on a Wednesday....

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Orion Syndicate
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Situations like this need to be sorted out early, and not dragged on for ages because the only people who lose are the civilians. I mean, look at all those last chances. "This is Serbia's last chance, if they don't agree, we'll bomb them." I think the west would have learned by now that these kind of people don't respond to threats like that, and have seen enough to know that the early threats are almost certainly empty.

They tried to appease Hitler, look what happened.
They tried diplomacy with Saddam, look at what happened. (although it does now seem that the diplomacy with Iraq was just a front for sending spies into Iraq as arms inspectors)
The situations that occurred in Rwanda and Zaire

If you tell them that you're very angry and condemn them, they'll just laugh in your face - the only thing that they understand is force, and I think it should be given to them in droves.

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[This message was edited by Orion Syndicate on March 24, 1999.]


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Jeff Raven
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Worst Job in the World:


PR man for the Serbian army

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RW
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Well then, it seems bombs are a falling now..

Good, a resume of what I think:

The U�K (or KLA) is just like any other terrorist separatist groups, and I do not agree with anything they stand for, but the Serbs have no right to start ethnical cleansing in response to their actions. they are not just fighting the U�K, they kill innocent civilians. For that alone, they should be punished. But why do the other nations insist that Serbia agrees with a possibility of Kosovo becoming independent in the future? They never offered the IRA such a thing, or the ETA. I get the feeling their hate towards Serbs makes them partial.


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