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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omega: [QB] You know, maybe we need two flameboards. One for people who like legitimate discussions, like me, Rob, JR, etc. The other for people who just like insulting people for no reason, in manners that have nothing to do with the topic, ala TEL. Anyway, Zamin needs to get a grip on reality. They may have a few nukes that MIGHT hit LA (and wouldn't we all be better off without Rosie O'Donnel?), but we could, and probably would, burn their entire country down to the bedrock in retaliation. They may have land armies bigger than the entire population of Japan, but they don't even have the naval capability to take Taiwan. If they don't give our people and plane back, they will become an international pariah, on top of their economy being destroyed. Heck, is it possible for them to loose their seat on the UN security council for violation of treaty? 'Cause they'd lose that, too. [Added information: As far as I can tell, the UN charter makes no provision for the removal of a permanant member of the security council. Further, Article 109, section 2 says that for any change to the charter to take effect, ALL the permanant members of the security council must ratify it. Thus, it seems unlikely that China could be removed from the security council, unless the UN decided to recognize Taiwan as the legitimate China or something. The actual text says that the "Republic of China" holds the seat, which IS Taiwan, as opposed to the PRC. However, they decided that sometime during the seventies. They could always reverse it, though. Anyway, there's Article 6, which makes provisions for expulsion from the UN. It requires that the SC recommend to the General Assembly (by a vote of 9 of fifteen) that a certain member be expelled, presumably upon a majority vote (not to clear) by said GA. This is to be for persistant violation of the principals of the charter. THAT might do it. But again, there's no provision made for the removal of a security council member. This isn't a very well laid out document. This tangent ends now.] They have no choice. They WILL return our personel and equipment. Unless, of course, they value an apology over their continued existance as a moderately powerful nation. All other options failing, what I'D do is recall our ambasadors, expel theirs, and send in some of those nifty stealth bombers to turn our plane into a smoking hole in the ground before they can reverse-engineer it. The people might be a little trickier. Are they still on the island where the plane landed? 'Cause a single carrier group could blockade the place, and I'm sure they don't have that many land forces stationed there. We could flat out take the place, if we had to. We have a world of options. They have none. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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