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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omega: [QB] "Like say, I could charge them with criminal negligence, if they knew beforehand that they were putting out a product that could kill people, and enhancing that same product with more stuff that could keep people hooked on smoking, thus killing them even quicker." Not when there are warnings on the packs, you can't. People who start smoking have every opportunity to know what they're getting into. If I know that a substance is dangerous, and use it anyway, it's [i]my own darned fault.[/i] "Omega, for CHRIST sakes, please stop saying that the government is harming society." I didn't say that. I said they CAN. The government is the only entity that has the power to actually force you to do anything. I'm not willing to simply trust them not to excercize it. "These are the same people who don't see something wrong when the gap between the rich and the poor are growing to insurmountable heights" "Insurmountable" is a poor choice of words. "while they suggest that social services, designed to help the lower class, be cut beyond all recognition." No one down here is suggesting this that I've heard. "These are the same people who suggest policies about making private universities and hospitals so that the rich can pay for first rate education and healthcare, while the lower class gets anything lower than substandard (AKA two-tiered Health and Education)." Funny thing, then, that these are the same people who support school vouchers, which give the poor access to the first-rate education... "It's about "listen, I know you're making oodles of money, so could you spare some so we can give some other people a helping hand? That's what we're here for." No, see, that's making the government seem like a voluntary charity. It's more about "Listen, you've got WAY more money than you need. Fork some over or we put you in jail." As for your example, of course it can be taken too far. Cutting spening and taxes is good, but only if done responsibly. "If you were working at a company, and they laid you off, and you find that the CEO gets a bonus the size of your annual salary, you'd be pissed off too, right?" Companies don't lay off workers just to give higher-ups a bonus. That'd be stupid, and business owners aren't stupid (at least, not the successful ones). If they lay off workers, they have a reason. Namely, that they're not needed any more for whatever reason, or that they're not doing their job as well as needed. I SERIOUSLY doubt that you could find an instance where some poor sap is fired, specifically to give the boss a bonus. "But I'd like to ask why Omega speaks so coldly about the government, and was there a past experience involved." Nope, no traumatic audits when I was six, nothing like that. I just don't like having a ANY chance of someone being able to force me to do something, and my having no chance at stopping them. I take ANY threat to me and mine quite seriously, especially when the chances of it happening are incalculable, and when it doesn't take all that much to be prepared. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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