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TSN
Member # 31
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...capitalized or no.
Read.
If Kerry weren't running the least effective ad campaign since... something really ineffective... these facts would be a goldmine of material.
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Jay the Obscure
Member # 19
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quote: Originally posted by TSN: If Kerry weren't running the least effective ad campaign since...
Al Gore?
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Jay the Obscure
Member # 19
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Two more posts from The American Prospect Online relating to Mr. Cheney.
quote: ELSEWHERE IN CHENEYVILLE. The Vice President also found time yesterday to lie a bit about national security, saying that Saddam Hussein "provided safe harbor and sanctuary as well for Al Qaeda" which is not only untrue, but so patently untrue that you won't even find it claimed in The Connection. The most Stephen Hayes could come up with is that George Tenet once told the Senate that there was "credible" information that indicated that Saddam had discussed giving safe haven to al-Qaeda. The LA Times, in typical press misbehavior, prints Cheney's charge in the first paragraph, while the contrary evidence doesn't appear until the fourteenth; and, of course, the paper can't bring itself to simply say that Cheney was lying. Instead, they have him "ignoring the findings of the bipartisan commission that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks" (and the findings of the CIA, and the findings of the Senate Select Commitee on Intelligence Report, etc., etc., etc.).
--Matthew Yglesias
Posted by jdubner at 09:57 AM
quote: IT'S WORSE THAN THAT. Yesterday, Dick Cheney took the time to say something really dumb:
Indicators measure the nation's unemployment rate, consumer spending and other economic milestones, but Vice President Dick Cheney says it misses the hundreds of thousands who make money selling on eBay.
That's a source that didn't even exist 10 years ago," Cheney told an audience in Cincinnati on Thursday. "Four hundred thousand people make some money trading on eBay."
Message: He doesn't care. John Edwards had a witty riposte:
"If we only included bake sales and how much money kids make at lemonade stands, this economy would really be cooking," Edwards said in a statement.
But now here's the thing -- as Brad DeLong notes we actually do include eBay's domestic revenues in our economic statistics. It's a pretty big company, and the fact that it's relatively new doesn't change that. To be generous, I assume Cheney was thinking of the fact that GDP systematically understates the value of new products, but that's something that's been going on since the dawn of time, not an excuse for the economy's poor performance under Bush's allegedly employment-boosting tax cuts.
--Matthew Yglesias
Posted by jdubner at 09:47 AM
It's going to be a long and painful campaign season.
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Charles Capps
Member # 9
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"Frothing at the mouth" does not begin to describe my reaction to these statements...
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TSN
Member # 31
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"Al Gore?" Well, his campaign can't have been so bad. He won, after all.
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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....the gave it ll away: some "president".
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TSN
Member # 31
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Seriously, do you even briefly glance at what you're typing?
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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Not really: I'm usually (at work) working on imporntant stuff at the same time.
Besides, spelling and punctuation are for people you're not familliar with. I like you all as much as me dear own family.
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Veers
Member # 661
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"Imporntant stuff"
Typo, or hidden message?
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newark
Member # 888
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I wouldn't say Vice President Al Gore. I would say Adlai Stevenson. Mr. Stevenson was the Democratic nominee in 1952. Very intellectual, very well versed in the issues of the day, Mr. Stevenson couldn't express his opinions clearly enough and he came off as muddled to the voting populace. General Eisenhower, whose messages were clearer, succeeded and he became president.
I am doubtful that Senator Kerry can win. He may be versed in the issues of the day, he may be more stimulated by intellectual debates than President Bush, yet he hasn't learned how to speak in the vox populi (sic). For an American politician, this is critical.
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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quote: Originally posted by Veers: "Imporntant stuff"
Typo, or hidden message?
Typo. After 17 hours of work, I'm too tired for even porn.
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TSN
Member # 31
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What about odd porn?
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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There's always time for odd porn....eels, medical supplies...whatever.
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WizArtist
Member # 1095
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Thank God that Democrats never lie, do nothing immoral, never skipped out on Vietnam, and personally invented the internet.
You know, if we taxed the rich (those with an income) more, then we could give more money to nations that hate us and lazy bums who aren't at fault for their laziness because their mommy's spanked them once.
How about everyone being responsible for their own actions and their own upkeep?
Politics: from the two root words "Poly" meaning "Many" and "Ticks" meaning "Blood-sucking Leaches"
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Jay the Obscure
Member # 19
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All those are excellent points....especially the internet one.
The Democrats certainly got zinged there.
On the other hand, was this suppose to mean something or add to the discourse?
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Jay the Obscure
Member # 19
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By the way, regarding spreading the Gore internet myth...like most myths, it doesn't need to be true to keep spreading it.
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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Well, we'd strayed into the world of "odd porn" anyway..
I think that even if Kerry wins, he'll be sadddled with so many tough choices (held over from this administration's cluster fuck policies) that he'll be seen as breaking all his campaign promises and will serve only one term.
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WizArtist
Member # 1095
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I think we need to shoot BOTH parties. As a more conservative person, I grew weary of the endless bashing of my views as "Close-minded" or "Mean-spirited". Now that the liberal perspective is getting the Michael Moore/Oliver Stone treatment they think its unfair. My prior post was more my frustration with the entire political process and its fall towards the same clannish crap that makes such places as Iraq such a FUN place to live. Politics is now all about implementing social agendas and power and I don't trust ANY of the candidates to do what is RIGHT anymore. Out of the total number of members of the House and Senate, how many are millionaires? Do American people TRULY believe that a dumbass millionaire that inherited his way to fortune REALLY represents the guy making $10 an hour? The racial minorities show that they don't trust someone outside their own race. THink about it, does a millionaire really think that raising taxes $20 a week on a guy making only $400 a week DOESN'T significantly effect that family? After all, what's twenty bucks to a guy that spends that on lattes everyday.
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Lee
Member # 393
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Bush has a social agenda?
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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Sure: he's very social with bis business, church leaders, the NRA...
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Sol System
Member # 30
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Isn't that what politics, by definition, is? The debate on how to run a society?
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Lee
Member # 393
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How to run it into the ground, usually.
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Jay the Obscure
Member # 19
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Mr. Bush is quite the successful politician then.
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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He sure thinks so.
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Lee
Member # 393
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And you mustn't disagree with the President. if you do, then Al-Qaeda have already won. Bush-Cheney '04!
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