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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Baloo: [QB] Omega: If I tell you something you can't refute, that doesn't mean that I'm right and you're wrong. I haven't earned any "points". The reverse is also true. This forum is not here so we can each convert the others to our own point-of-view. It's here largely so we can discuss with others (not harangue) our beliefs, as well as being a place to gripe about something that gets our goat. It is also a place where we can discuss in a civil manner the things upon which we do not agree. If someone hears your reasoning and agrees with you that does not mean he is a genius who "saw the light". Conversely, if you state your case and someone obstinately does not agree with you despite what you've told them, it does not make them an idiot. Winning and losing have no place here. I would welcome some signs of humility (rather than hubris) from someone who follows the Christian faith. If you read something that someone else said and it makes you mad, just remember that you have been doing the same thing to others as well. The tone of your posts suggests your objective is not to state your position and allow others to decide if they believe. It sounds more like you are somehow trying to stroke your own ego by "counting coup" against the heretics. I want to hear your viewpoints and opinions, but find it unpleasant when you attempt to cast any disagreement with your position as the ravings of a lunatic (that goes for any non-creationists in the crowd as well). Despite the name of this particular forum, the object is not to piss each other off, but to vent one's spleen or state one's position in an atmosphere of civil discourse. Greater minds than ours have misinterpreted the evidence before. Sometimes a theory fits the facts as we know them, but the key is [i]as we know them[/i]. Everyone here is willing to listen respectfully to your evidence, opinions and conclusions as long as you do not imply they are fools for not immediately disavowing everything they KNOW is correct (whether truly correct or not) to embrace your teachings. Be prepared to have someone else present evidence that they believe refutes your points and do not take it personally. It is disrespectful of all the people here to dismiss what they believe is true as so much "piffle", and you would be (and probably are) rightly annoyed when others treat your beliefs with the same disrespect. --Baloo [/QB][/QUOTE]
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