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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Wraith: [qb] [QUOTE] When we leave, I give them less than a decade before some idiot cleric seizes power and drags them back to the seventh century mentality. [/QUOTE]Depend how long the Coalition stays and what the attitude is towards Iraq after we leave. In my view the Coalition should be prepared to be called upon to assist security forces in Iraq for at least 25 years. This is the problem with the US conception of imperialism. It doesn't involve the taking of any responsibility or any transitional stages between dictatorship and democracy. [/qb][/QUOTE]That's the rub isint it? The US is not looking to make Iraq a territory: we'd rather have them "democratic" in a west-friendly (and beholden to us, of course)way. THe idea is to (somehow) train the new Iraqi governments' forces to maintain order and THEN LEAVE. Iraqi's don't want us US forces in thir country any longer than out troops want to be there, but most also dont think the US is going to take over either. As to "some idiot cleric seizes power and drags them back to the seventh century mentality", check the news: it's already happening. The presence of US forces is all that's preventing a quick, bloody overthrow of the interim government by Al Sadur's forces for his own personal power. The Iraqi government needs to eliminate him (figurativly or literally) if there's going to be a democracy in their future. If that happens, of course, those same people denouncing the US occupation[i] now[/i] will blame the US is a dictatorship or theocracy sets up after we leave. Just as they blamed us when they starved while saddam pocketed the money fom the "oil for food" clusterfuck program. Having Kerry or Bush in office will make no diffrence to these events. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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