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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mucus: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Omega: [qb] The Christian community is defined by our end purpose, furthering the reign of God on earth. The laws of the government simply define the environment in which we try to do that. [/qb][/QUOTE]Not a big fan of separation of church and state ;) Don't suppose you could just pass laws of the government that apply only to Christians, i.e. banning abortion only for Christians. Its a kind of discrimination, but we could probably convince the courts to make an exception since the group is discriminating against itself ;) . [QUOTE]Originally posted Neutrino 123: [qb] As for the discussion on moral systems, I prefer to use the other parties moral system and convince them via that. For example, if it were highly convienant for all parties, why not destroy newborns? They are no more advanced (and certainly not self-conscious) then late-stage fetuses (feti?). Some other random points: Considering society as a whole, abortions are not good for most countries, especially Europe. European population is going down in many places, and the U.S. population is only going up due to immigration. The global trend is a decline in population growth, with stabilization and then fall in 2050. Increasing the number of children in first world countries will not put anything like strain on them. [/qb][/QUOTE] :p On the fight room: Too bad we don't actually have enough religious diversity on this board to actually try it. But on a related note it is one of my dreams to just dump off members of all the aggressive/evangelical religions, Christianity, Muslims, Judaism, etc. in the Middle East. Build a big wall, toss in some weapons, and ask them to fight it out. Whatever faith wins, we'll just call "religion". Then when people say that they're religious, you don't have to ask which one, so life will be much simpler. Also, no religious warfare. Plus, no one should be able to complain because a) God's "chosen" people should win, whomever it should turn out to be b) the losers will be gone anyways. Its debatable whether we should remove the wall afterwards ;) But I jest...mostly. But seriously, and now to really horrify people. As I stated before, I don't particularly feel that human life has any special sacrosant status. So if someone *really* wants to kill their own child, and assuming that they came by their decision rationally (i.e. not termporary post-partum depression), and the child isn't old enough to be self-conscious....then go right ahead. Now, personally, I would be horrified at the thought of doing it myself and no one other than the parents should be able to make that decision. But in the end, the only reason any species has children is to pass on our genetic inheritance, so if someone decides that they aren't good enough to pass that along. Then all power to them. As for demographics, the issue is not overall numbers. There's no magical reason why there should be 6 billion people on this Earth. What is at issue is natural resources. Even if the global population declines, the amount of natural resources people will consume will still go up simply because there are 1.2 billion people in China and whatever number in India that are rapidly progressing towards, for lack of a better word, an American way of life with the associated American usage of natural resources. Hence we should do all that we can to encourage contraception and family planning. The last thing we want to do is force people to have children when they already have been convinced for whatever reason not to. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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