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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

Part of the final report was released. I heard it on the radio night before last, and on TV yesterday. Basiclly it says what first of two has said all along, that there was no evidence that the gunboys were looking for anyone or any group, but were killing who ever, and planning to kill as many as possible. They never denied any of the stories that have come out, Like the girl being tormented over her religion. The girls mother made an apearance on the religoin channal a few days ago, talking about their family moving to to town to get the girl away from a bad influence. It will be interesting to see if the press backs off the story after the full report is released. I think I'll stop watching the news altogether.

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Fool of a Took, throw yourself in next time!!
Gandalf

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Of course it said what I said. It's the truth, isn't it?

The whole "she said yes" story has been repeatedly debunked. Most importantly, the eyewitness who originally reported the incident later realized, upon returning to the scene, that he had been mistaken. (Aparrently, the person who ACTUALLY 'said yes' was another girl, who was, in fact, not shot. Of course, that's not good press, while the current false version is, so it survives.) The current promoters of the book have gone so far as to say "It doesn't matter if it's true, what matters is that people believe it."

Milking a tragedy for political gain... that's what it's all about.

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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi

Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

One of my college profess. told us to ignore the national news. I alway thought he was stretching things, but after this, and a couple of other stories, I think I will stop watching the news. What's the use, if you can't believe them.

He did say McNiel-Leaer(sp) was acurate, but that's hard to believe too, since they(or he now) are so slanted toward the left.

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Fool of a Took, throw yourself in next time!!
Gandalf

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

You're learning.

Tell you what I do. I listen to left-leaning news, AND a right-leaning radio/news programme.
Generally the truth is somewhere in the middle.

George Carlin said it best, about licence plates:

"New Hampshire's plate says: Live free, or DIE!!!
Idaho's says: Famous potatoes.
I have a feeling, that somewhere in between, the truth lies. Probably, it's a little closer to 'Famous Potatoes.'"

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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi

Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

Somewhere between Rush Limbaugh and Dan Rather. I feel so slimey. I'm going home now. See you guys tomorrow.

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Fool of a Took, throw yourself in next time!!
Gandalf

Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Did he have something against New Hampshire?

Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

First, do you have any conservative online sources? Most of what I find is liberal.

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"If a nail is driven into the wrong place, it would be foolish indeed to become angry with the hammer." - Old Russian Proverb

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

The local coffee shop?

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"What did it mean to fly? A tremor in your soul. To resist the dull insistance of gravity."
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Camper Van Beethoven

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Jeff: one local: www.warroom.com

and www.worldnetdaily.com

for starters.

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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi

Posted by bryce (Member # 42) on :

Of course, you don't watch the news. They are only out for your advertising dollar no matter what political side you are on. The media is liberal not because it is a bunch of democrats, but because it does not hold any traditional moral values.

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We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the
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George Orwell

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Oh, why dance around the issue? For left-wing news, go to The news as reported by the International Committee of the Fourth International. Thrill as the horrors of capitalism are exposed through multiple watchings of "Who Wants to Marry a Really Rich Guy"! Amaze your friends with the real history of the Apollo program!

And as for the right, what more trustworthy source exists to refute the godless immorality of communists, celebrities, and anyone with a college education? Yes, it's Pat Robertson's own wunderkind, The 700 Club!

I pick on The 700 Club because of its connection to Pat Robertson, but it runs a rather harmless website compared to some. Still, along with all the touchy feely stuff, it includes enough solid misinformation to qualify under the rather snarky mood I'm in.

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"What did it mean to fly? A tremor in your soul. To resist the dull insistance of gravity."
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Camper Van Beethoven

Posted by Dane Simri (Member # 272) on :

To quote a former middle-eastern leader, "What is truth?"

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Dane

"Mathematicians have long held that a million monkeys banging on a million keyboards would eventually reproduce the collected wisdom of the human race. Now, thanks to the internet, we know this is not true." -- Robert Silensky

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

When I hear "traditional moral values," the first thing that always pops into my head is Shirley Jackson's story "The Lottery."

ever read it?

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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi

Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

Yep! It ought to (and used to) be required reading in High School (or perhaps earlier).

Of course, the problem with putting anything on a required reading list is that they are notorious for containing only the most dessicated, sleep-inducing pieces of literature imaginable. Whenever a gem is slipped into the list, it becomes tainted by association.

I'm just glad I read Fahrenheit 451 before I knew it was on the list at my school!

--Baloo

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

I don't think I read anything on the reqired list. I saw the 451 movie, and I think I remember reading the book many moons ago.

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Fool of a Took, throw yourself in next time!!
Gandalf

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Oh. Despite my essential apparent conservatism, know this: NEVER take the 700 Club's word for anything. Pat Robertson is a complete nutjob, who, during his unsuccessful (thank goodness and reason) presidential run, made several statements to the effect that he believed in ignoring the Constitution where he saw fit, specifically Article 6, Section 3 (which forbids any religious test to hold government office.), and the 14th Amendment (which did the same for state and local governments).

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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi

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Posted by Simon on :

The main stream news is horrible. If you ever watch an item on a topic of which you have an above average level of knowledge you find that they are all wrong. They represent rumors as truth, they make sweeping generalizations, and only spell about a third of peoples names right.

An interesting paradox about New Hampshires license plates are that they are printed at the state prison.