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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

So there's this person I spoke to recently, and we were discussing his trip to the USA and he told me the most amazing thing. Apparently he was sitting in a restaruant there and ordered a black coffee. The waitress said 'what?' and the room kind of fell into a hush. So let me ask, what the hell is up with that? He used the word black, in conjunction with the word coffee. Is this a reason to create a scene, or are we fun loving thick skinned Aussies missing the whole point? It's quite obscene.

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

This begs the next question: WHERE in the U.S.?

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Got me, Daryus. I don't drink coffee, much less go out and order it for exorbitant prices, so my input may not be worth much, but I've never heard of anyone objecting to the phrase "black coffee". If your friend has an accent, is it possible that they mistook what he said for something else? Or perhaps in today's world of espresso, cappuchino, and late (what the heck IS a late, anyway?), the word "coffee" simply has fallen into disuse. I don't suppose the waitress was black? People sometimes can be touchy about the strangest things.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Interestingly, I was reading an article about how lecturers at a college in Manchester have been given a list of phrases to avoid, because they cause offense. They include:

"Blackmail"
"Ladies and Gentlemen" (class conentations)
"Crazy","mad","manic", (offense to those with mental health problems)
"Man in the street" (women get upset)
"Nitty-gritty" (referds to having sex with slave women)
"Taking the Mickey" (upsets the Irish)
"man-made" (women get upset. Although it's probably because they're having thier periods or something)
"Normal Couple" (argues 'what is normal?')

Although I can't think of anywhere in the UK where the phrase "black coffee" would get that sort of reaction. Maybe "Can I have some nigger coffee, bitch?" might get a few people pissed. But just a few.

Maybe they just thought your friend would drink tea Daryus (they're not the best nation for placing accents, are they?)

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

Perhaps the astonishment expressed by the patrons of that restaurant was not necessarily caused by the use of the word "black". I figure latt�, cappucino, etc., have so supplanted the plain, old cup o' joe, that the patrons were shocked by the concept that anyone would consider drinking coffee with absolutely nothing else in it!

Shocking, that's what it is. Next thing you know, folks'll start asking for the beans and munch on 'em like peanuts.

~~Baloo

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Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :

They would have to be covered in something to give them the cream and whatever flavors though. Hey... that sounds like a good idea... We could open up a store called "Bag 'O Joe!" Anyone want to join in?

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Hmm. Nope it was definitely related to the black part.
The waitress asked him to 'rephrase the question'.

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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".

Wise, wise words.

Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

"Is it impossible to get a cup of coffee-flavored coffee these days?"

-- Denis Leary "Lock and Load"

(Extends into Beer-flavored beer, donuts, and whiskey after a few minutes. I highly recommend listening to it.)

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Look at the past few years:
Jimmy Carter: Who we kidding, Valium Posterchild. We go to:
Ronald Reagan, Howdy Doody Sr. If it keeps getting benign, we might end up with:
Mr. Rogers, "Can you say Armageddon? Oops, too late." Or we can get macho and have:
Jack Nicholson vs. Clint Eastwood, Shortest debate in history, all Jack will have to say is "How can you debate me, you haven't opened your goddammed eyes in twenty years."

Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

I use cream. But I've never heard of anyone getting upset with an order of Black coffee. Must have been somewhere on the left coast.

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Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :

You mean west coast?

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

But.. I thought they WEREN'T "Blacks!" I thought they were now "African-Americans!"

Hell, both terms are grossly inaccurate anyway...

Criminy, PC is screwing up the language. Goodspeak, Orwellian-style.

Can't order a damn black coffee, but I'll bet THEY can still ask for white-out...

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

IMHO both groups are idioticlly oversensitive. Call a spade a spade for gods sake.

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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".

Wise, wise words.

Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

Unfortunately, if you ask for Caucasian-out, you might be mistaken for a Panther.

As for the PC debate, it took me forever to find this one, but I tackled this during the Christmas season A Couple of Christmas questions It seemed to piss a few people off, but I don't see the harm.

"I'm dreaming of a politically-correct holiday-on-December-25th
Just like the singular-events we never knew
Where the tall-wood-bearing plants glisten
and vertically-challenged-pre-adolescents listen
to hear sleigh-noise-producing-chimes in the crystallized-water-flakes.
I'm dreaming of a politically-correct holiday-on-December-25th
with every holiday-on-December-25th card I write,
may your 24-hour periods be emotionally-pleased and intelligence-endowed
and may all your holidays on December 25th be politically correct."
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Look at the past few years:
Jimmy Carter: Who we kidding, Valium Posterchild. We go to:
Ronald Reagan, Howdy Doody Sr. If it keeps getting benign, we might end up with:
Mr. Rogers, "Can you say Armageddon? Oops, too late." Or we can get macho and have:
Jack Nicholson vs. Clint Eastwood, Shortest debate in history, all Jack will have to say is "How can you debate me, you haven't opened your goddammed eyes in twenty years."

[This message has been edited by Saiyanman Benjita (edited June 20, 2000).]