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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

According to my source, a bill is before the Australian legislature (passed their House and expected to pass their Senate soon) which will authorize the Australian military to shoot civilian protestors.

Of course, some may ask: "being disarmed now, how could Australian citizens possibly be dangerous enough to shoot?" Without realizing that it's the protesting itself which is considered dangerous by the government.

This law is expected to be passed in time for the Olympics and the Economic Powers gathering, both soon.

Well, I guess you reap what you sow, huh? This was predicted, you know. First, you disarm the citizenry. Then, you crack down.

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

Remind me not to visit Australia any time soon. :P

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

quote:

Intelligence, Integrity, Responsibility.
Vote Bush/Cheney 2000

Nice slogan. My favorite has always been "Coke is it".

Aussies should jam the streets with protest ever day till the law is changed back. The cops can only kill so many.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Apparently, they weren't actually disarmed. Certain guns were simply replaced with other types of guns. If they're in your house, then they have to be kept in a special safe. If you're carrying them, they have to be kept in a holster. At least, that's what Daryus tells me...

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

But Daryus isn't reporting the truth. He's afriad to. Now that he's been disarmed, if he reports any anti-government stories, he's forced to have a lobotomy, which makes him believe any crap people tell him

Full marks to Omega there, for responably reporting the truth, even if it doesn't support his position.

Let's ask Daryus if this is indeed true and very frightening story, or complete bollocks:

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Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :

You know of course that this is just the first step. In 10 years, the Land of Australia will command a whole army of soldiers to put down internal resistance from the local population of koala bears and crocodiles. Then they'll move on to rule the world. THE WORLD!!!! WE'RE DOOMED, DOOMED, DOOOOMMMMEEED.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Err bollocks. It is bollocks. I'm going to the thingy to disrupt the economic forum on the 11th. Believe me, if there were any chance of getting shot, I'd be sitting at home watching it on TV.

And yes, the number guns in the populace has not reduced, only certain types have been removed.(Thankyou Omega). You'll note First, that in your lovely gun toting state, there have been many cases of the national guard and police shooting people. That crap doesn't happen here.

I was actually quite sickened by the fact that the protestors in Seattle were made out to look like a bunch of thugs. But hey, the guys who they were protesting against own the newspapers that report it. Big surprise.

Those corporations who attend are responsible for far more death and destruction (read: slave labour, weapons developers etc etc) than a bunch of protestors. But hey, you never know. I may even get arrested. I know for a fact that they have my photo on file. We did some protesting on the steps of state parliment house a couple of years back. A guy (so called tourist) with a high powered lens was taking lots of photos from behind a tree. Rather proud of it actually . If we see him again, we'll ask if we can help with the photography.

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

That is a real step backwards IMO if such a bill were passed in any country. I saw a pamplet at work once that stated "When governments take away the rights to bear arms, they take away the right to be free" or something, then showed Hitler doing his salute along with pictures of Joseph Stalin, Ma Ze Dong (I forget the proper spelling) and Janet Reno. It was over the top to me but the point is the same.
Personally I am not a gun carrier nor do I want to. I would prefer more classic weapons myself.

In other words; restricting the right of self defense restricts the right to live freely and without fear of oppression.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

My lovely gun-toting state? Pennsylvania?

Let's see, I think the last time government troops were needed in Pennsylvania was... The Whiskey Rebellion, back in the late 18th Century?

G. Washington made the decision to send in troops, and he himself came. Bet YOUR leaders wouldn't be out there on the front lines.

Anyways, I'm working to confirm the story. I'll let you know as soon as I have whatever I can get... unless they open up on the protesters at the Economic thingy first, in which case you'll know then.

dammit, I hope I don't haveta email Quinn again...

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Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :

Wow, a fellow Pennsylvanian...

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

"G. Washington made the decision to send in troops, and he himself came. Bet YOUR leaders wouldn't be out there on the front lines."

Well, several British/EnglishScottish/the other two kings did come out with their troops to fight.

What, you mean present day rulers? So Clinton regulary pilots F-15's against enemy troops then?

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Of course that's what the US President does, Liam... Didn't you see Independence Day?

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-Irish Comic Ed Byrne on Canada-US relations

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Yes. That is what I was subtly referencing.

Come on Tom, I'd expect this from the Yanks, but you're Canadian. I thought you understood humour. You can't use it in any decent form, but you can understand it.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

I'm Canadian. I like humor. Those Mornty Parthon guys are funny. I'm not sure why, but there funny.

"He said spam. I guess that's funny."
*tee hee*

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

*lol*
Somehow I doubt any president will have the looks of Bill Pulman and his humor.

[is it Pulman or Pullman?]

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Well, I thought it was just a bit too subtle for you, Liam. I mean, if you'd stuck a few sexual connotations in there, I'd have caught onto the joke right away.

Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Where do people get the idea that Australians can't bear arms. Let me rephrase that. Where apart from that blithering imbecile Charlton Heston do people get the diea that Australians don't have guns? Last time I looked, we had one of the highest ownership rates in the world.

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

I think it's one of those misinterpeted stereotypes like how most Aussies have Koalas, Dingos, Kangaroos and other assorted animals for pets. Or how everyone there lives like a bushman.

I could comment on Kiwi's too, but Charles would likely ban me for that comment.

[Spell at 7am I cannot]

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Posted by Squirrelman on :

"My lovely gun-toting state? Pennsylvania?
Let's see, I think the last time government troops were needed in Pennsylvania was... The Whiskey Rebellion, back in the late 18th Century?"

I'm from Pennsylvania. My family is Pennsylvania Dutch and our family line goes back to Germantown in the 1690's.

Actually, the use of government troops in PA has been a little more recent. Besides the battle of Gettysburg, I'm thinking of the great Railroad Strike of 1877 and the Homestead strike in 1892. Pennsylvania has a lot of bloody ground from the industrial strife of the 19th century.

I'm also a gun owner, but I don't make that the core of my identity, nor do I oppose gun regulations in principle.

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Ah! You know what, that's absolutely right. I'd forgotten about the use of troops during the early strike era. (I could argue semantics about how they shouldn't have been used, but even I know that'd be quibbling)

So, I stand corrected on that point.

However, it was STILL over a century ago.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

By state I meant country. Not state as is subdivision of the whole.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Pennsylvanians? My mom is from Scranton. Myself, I'm a Baltimoron.

I mean, Baltimorean.

::cough::

How bout dem O's?

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