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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Ive been looking back through the kinds of stuff you blokes discuss round here, and I reckon I've spotted a glaring omission. This is the internet we're using guys, and if there's one thing that characterizes it it's sex. So what do ya think of it all?

Now, it's obvious some of you have some very strange ideas about how other people should live their lives, so I bet I'm on a winner here, argument-wise. Course, could be you're all teenage virgins and internet porn represents your only sexual release and you don't wanna talk about it from sheer embarrassment. I just saw one post where that librarian feller wouldn't even use the word 'arse,' which says a lot.

Now, cards on the table. I like porn, it's a good laugh. Nothing better to look at with your mates over a few tinnies. There may be a few sad muckers out there spend all their time in a darkened room doing the old four-finger shuffle, but it takes all kinds to make a world.

And one more card to throw down: I don't hold with anything that exploits children in any way shape or form. We clear on that?

Go to it!

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Actually, in a recent poll, spanking the monkey was the third most popular past-time amoungst Trek fans. After using a computer, and using the internet.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
They say: 40% of men who commit crimes against women have read/viewed porn.

I say: So? 95% have read the Bible. There's no correlation.

The Japanese have violent-themed porn that makes our stuff look tame. But almost no incidence of rape or other sex crimes. Why? Because the Japanese are generally civilized people.

I watch it. I like it. I've never done anything illegal in that area, though, and I never will. I'm in a loving, monogamous relationship.

I used to get together with four or five friends on weekends when I was in grad school, and rent a couple of the odder ones (ones themed on real movies, -- 'Muffy the Vampire Layer', 'Three Men and a Hooker' -- or 'freaks of nature' ones) and we'd MST3K them till we were blue in the face, making fun of the dialogue, atrocious acting, obvious looping, etc.
I should mention that the above friends were WOMEN.

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
 
Well, since Jubilee hasn't been around for a while, our sexual discussions have been a bit wane. I'll admit to watching a little porn every now and then, however, ogling at some of the college chicks seems more interactive. he he he.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
 
I once stumbled upon pictures of the Colorado Avalanche with their heads on naked female bodies. It was quite unnerving.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
I adore porn. Simple & succinct.

From a HS friend I recently got in contact with again:

"I had an unofficial premiere of a new short film that I finally got off my ass to make this summer. It's called Pleasureland and it's about porn and 5 out of the 6 actors in it are naked and pretending to fuck. I
have high hopes for it."

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :
 
I don't know, Vogon, I don't think porn is that much of a controversial issue these days. I don't think it's that much of a big deal OOOhhh!! I've just come!
Thank heaven for multitasking.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"40% of men who commit crimes against women have read/viewed porn"

Erm... Wouldn't that mean that the majority have not? That would almost suggest that not viewing pornography makes you more likely to commit crimes against women.

Not that those figures could be accurate, anyway. I mean, how can 60% of these guys have never viewed porn, when I'm sure 99.9% of guys over the age of twelve have...?

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Heck, even I've seen pornography. It's kinda hard to avoid, if you spend any time online. Someone once hacked www.zophar.net back when I was visiting it to redirect to a porn site, for instance.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
 
Yes, I see. You "accidently" stumbled upon it. I have a feeling that if one were to look at your HD, you'd have saved gangbang movies renamed to 'startrek.mpg' so your parents couldn't unearth them.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
:::checks files:::

Wow....1.66 gig of porn.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
This is where I tell my amusing "Megatron gives Cirroc Lofton head" story, no?

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Megatron and ... ?

Oh, I'm all ears.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
You are? Kinky.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
You, you ... pervert!!!

C'mon, Sol, tell the joke!


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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
You deleted that porno Cirroc Lofton card, didn't you Sol?
Damn your puritanical ways.

Would this be G1 "pull my trigger" Megatron, or BW "yes. Oh yes. Yessssss" Megatron? Or Beast Machines "er, my hands aren't doing anything under this cloak. Honest" Megatron?

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
 
What about G2 'green tank that looks like a booger' Megatron. He was my favorite. So green...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
No, I haven't deleted it. How could I? Underneath my mask of puritanical self-satisfaction beats the heart of a very perverse thirty-seven year old bartender from San Diego. I happened to relieve it from him once in a story far too dull to tell.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Green with purple snot.

Which I suppose is better than Hero Megatron (I've just picked up Hero Prime, in a box, for �5. Stupid shop not know how much nice old toy should be).

A purple tank? Sure, that'll be great camoflague. If you're hiding in a yogurt factory.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
 
Vogon - Should them thar teenage virgins get laid? And aboot the porn. In my own words. Who cares? Porn is as old as sex, or just about. People will do what they like, when they like. If it gets your clock ticking....

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Well, D mate- I'm sure we agree they SHOULD (except for this Frank guy. Your man Liam seems to think he should never reproduce, and I trust the guys opinion, his head seems screwed on right). Whether they CAN is another matter.

But strewth this has been a bit of a wet blanket thread. Your all supposed to hate porn, not agree its fun! Maybe you should get that Capcom guy to do some using fake Trek pornm photos, got a good one of Seven I'd controbute...

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Er, I hate porn (said very unenthusiasticly)

No, I have no problem with porn.

Unless its of children, then its sick. Animal sex, too, but who am I to judge?

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
PsyLiam, what are you talking about??? Why would anyone hide in a yoghurt-factory?
Sounds like something from a Louis De Fun�s-flick.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
 
"Well, D mate- I'm sure we agree they SHOULD (except for this Frank guy. Your man Liam seems to think he should never reproduce, and I trust the guys opinion, his head seems screwed on right)."

If Liam ever gets back on ICQ, I have some interesting stories to tell him...but, in the meantime...NYAH! :P

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Y'know, that's the sort of thing I don't even want to hear alluded to... *shudder*

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
It's too late. The concept has been released, like that black cloud surrounding entire planets in "A Wrinkle In Time".

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Er, Frank, do these stories involve the female front-bottom? Cause I'm not over-eager to hear them on ICQ.

But by all means, post them here.

Oh, Nimmy: Don't ask why Megatron would hide in a yogurt factory. He's not the most stable of people, y'know. That's what happens when you get possessed by someone who then shares your mind and you meet up with your future-self but it's not really you it's a copy built to look like you that thinks it's you and the real you then tries to kill you so you blow your own head off.

Oi.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
 
No, I will not post them here; you saw the reactions to the mere suggestion.

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Now this is cybersex: http://www.fufme.com/

I still think this is one of the funniest sites on the WWW

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
That site is great..... LOL

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
 
And now, I begin to feel very ill. *BERK*

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
 
Well, porn is just fine with me. It's just as American as apple pie. Look where Playboy came from, and Playgirl. Porn is just a substitue for the real thing. If the opportunity cost of actually having sex is too great, there's always porn.


And what about Trek-themed porn? I have a pic of something called PlayBorg with Jeri Ryan on the cover.

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :
 
*drueling* (over Jeri Ryan, not the Fuck-You-Fuck-Me tm machine)

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
I gotta admit, Ive seen some pretty sick shit, but just looking at that orofice makes me queasy... :P

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
There actually was a big conference in Stockholm six months ago, dealing with the abusing of women in the pornographic business.

Now, I like pornography for the most basic reasons, but there are so many guys, even friends of mine, who watch/read porn mainly because of the sometimes abusing and degrading treatment of women, with anal-sex, excessive facials and such.

I remember a documentary that showed a scene where a poor girl started bleeding (no, not menstruation) but she ignored it because she needed the money, and far be it from the guy to stop, he prolly went IN to the porn business (n.p.i) to be able to degrade girls.

I know I haven't seen or understood ALL aspects of the business as such, and it would be hypocrisy for me to oppose it as a whole, so the double standard of it really bothers me...
 

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I think you've got two kinds of porn:

"Artful" porn: i.e, Playboy: naked pictures of women. I call this artful, b/c if you've ever gone to an art museum, you see a *lot* of naked women ...

"Degrading" porn -- this is the type just for the hard cash, i.e.: women engaged in sexual acts, et all.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
Which category do the people who make homemade videos and sell them on the internet fall into?

I used to say that if I ever won a ridiculously huge amount of money, I'd executive-produce a big-budget porno movie...

That's It!!! I've got a premise for Series V!!!
Sex Trek... the Next Penetration!

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Homemade videos of ... women standing around naked? Or having sex? Or playing with themselves?

Hell, I don't know, its a tricky issue. I would say just "homemade videos" would label it as the degrading kind, but I have no clue!

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Degrading sex is sex that doesn't involve you.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Well, if you follow that logic, then all sex is degrading, Solly boy.

I think separating porn into artful/glamour/erotic, and everything else is a bit simplistic. And you're saying the entire San Fernando Valley-based US porn industry, with its hundreds of starlets, is based on degradation? Does Jenna Jameson feel degraded? Maybe we should ask her...

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
No, I doubt the women who act in the porn industry feel degraded (but then, how the hell would you or I know?) ... and you're right, it is simplistic, but do you have any other better reasoning?

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Yeah, I mean, you got those 'Gonzo' videos which feature a guy who just goes up to girls and tries to persuade them to appear (unless it's all really faked, I wouldn't know, never - honestly - having seen one of the films of this sub-genre). No-one's forcing them to appear, and I suppose releasing the videos subsequently against the wishes of the girl opens up all sorts of legal questions...

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