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Posted by MIB on :
 
I couldn't help but think about how I would turn VERY violent in my school so damn fast if this was going on with me. Could this be part of the reason why kids are showing up in schools armed to the teeth? What are your comments?

6th Grade Boy Hideously Tormented Aboard School Bus

By Beth Kassab

The Orlando Sentinel Staff
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-vol-fire-042701.story?col l=orl%2Dnews%2Dheadlines%2Dlocal
4-28-01


The taunting was particularly grotesque: A group of students tortured a sixth-grader on a school bus by smearing dog feces on his face and calling him names.

No one, including the bus driver, came to his aid, according to Volusia County school records.

But psychologists say this was a classic instance of bullying, and the impact on the sixth-grader who was their target won,t be diminished by the bus driver,s firing this week, nor by the charges facing the tormenters.

"It goes on, and a lot of people right it off as normal," said Dr. Mark Rapport, a clinical psychologist at the University of Central Florida. "Victims are usually ignored by schools, and parents are usually unaware of the problem. They are in a chronic state of fear and anxiety wondering if they,re going to be picked on and if it,s going to be another terrible day."

The sixth-grader at Deltona Middle School had a reason to be scared. According to police reports, a group of two 11-year-olds and one 12-year-old, whose names are being withheld because they are minors, had teased the child for months, threatening him with sticks and beating him up.

The last straw for the child,s mother, who would not comment for this story, was the Feb. 26 incident.

According to reports, the sixth-grader accidentally stepped in dog feces and tracked some of it inside the bus.

The other students started complaining about the stench, and the bus driver used expletives to ask who was responsible for the odor, according to school reports.

The bus driver handed out some paper towels for the students to clean up. But that didn,t happen. While other students laughed and egged them on, three students used paper towels and a pen to wipe the feces on the sixth-grader, getting some of it inside his mouth.

"This one kid was doing most of all the teasing, and one kid got a paper towel and smudged it all over his clothes and face and everything," said Jamie Black, 12, who was sitting behind the sixth-grader. "I didn,t think it was right, and [the sixth-grader] just started telling him to stop and started crying because he felt so embarrassed."

Even the students who are thought to be responsible gave disturbing accounts of the incident. In a written statement one said: "I took a paper towel and put dog poop on his lap then punched him again then [another student] put it on his face."

One witness said the driver, Harry Diaz, even "high-fived" the boys who were leading the teasing.

Diaz, a former Navy intelligence specialist who, according to school system records, left the service last year after a 21-year stint, said in an interview with school officials that he didn,t see the boys smear the feces on the sixth-grader or notice him crying. Diaz couldn,t be reached for comment Thursday.

Diaz, 47, told the students to "cut it out" when he saw them out of their seats but did not know what they were doing, according to a School Board report.

That same report said a videotape from the school bus shows Diaz smiling and shaking hands with one of the students.

Diaz said he was smiling because of the jokes students were making about the smell and that the handshake was "just a reaction," according to the report. The School Board voted Wednesday to fire Diaz, who had been a driver since December.

The sixth-grader,s mother reported the incident to police, and three students were charged with simple battery and stalking because the teasing had been ongoing. They were recommended for expulsion from school, reports show. A school system spokeswoman would not comment on the outcome of that recommendation.

Dr. Thomas Oakland, a school psychologist, said bullies learn to get personal gratification out of targeting someone weaker than they are.

"They were being highly entertained here," Oakland said. "Anyone with dung on their shoe is perceived as being pretty weak socially."

Oakland, also a professor at the University of Florida, said bullying is especially common in middle school among boys and the effects on the victims can be devastating. "This is a time when how their peers treat them can have a decided effect on how they view themselves and the world," he said. "If we wink our eye, then the bullies say, Hey, I,m getting indirect support, I,m enjoying this., "



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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
 
As issue of the year, the media is focusing on Bullying. This kind of stuff happens ALL the time. The only difference? it gets front page news.

I won't go into what was done to me in my school years.

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :
 
*shakes head*

If somebody did THAT to my kid, I would be filing criminal assault charges so fast, their heads would spin right off their bodies.

Bullying is not a "Right of passage". It is an assault against another human being, pure and simple.

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
If someone sis that to my kid I'd be facing criminal charges for attacking the stupid bus driver, and the kids parents for not raising their kids right...

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :
 
This is one of those cases I could easily understand (but certainly wouldn't condone) the kid shooting them for it. People want to blame movies, video games and other media but overlook this kind of shit.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
You know, it's not like they can make a front-page story every time some kid gets picked on, JeffR.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :
 
They need to be branded for life and severely punished because there is no justification for their actions, that child's life is permanently ruined, his ego crushed and will probably think that he doesn't deserve to live and rot away as a bum on the street with no education or hope for the future.
Some people will think that I am exaggerating, but this is nowhere near exaggeration, that poor kid's life is over, and those assholes need to pay for it.

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :
 
Why do some kids need to be bullies to feel better about themselves while others don't? The parents obviously have something to do with it.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
True.

Also, could people possibly turn down the "outraged rightiousness" bit? Yes, we know it's wrong. But, like, chill dude. It makes reading threads like this really annoying when you have to wade through post upon post of

"Bullying of any sort is wrong! People like that should be shot! And Killed! And then made dead! They are scum. They are worse than Hitler, and Satan. Bathe me in your holy light, for I am one of the morally outraged!"

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Or you could talk to your ombudsman... (funny word)

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :
 
No not really, the people that need to demean others to feel more secure are called popular where I come from.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
 
As weird as this is gonna sound I think a very simple solution is to beat the crap out of the bully. I had no problems (as such) at highschool, but one funny guy who tried to pour coke over me got a few fairly good punches, followed by being smacked into the ground. Then my mates arrived. Point being, if they know what it feels like to get the shite beaten out of them, they grow out of it. I suppose you can only do that if you are the type of person who will fight and have people to back you up. Still

Of course when you have a place where people have such easy access to weapons...it changes things.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
As we all know, bullying is more psychological than physical. When a person has shown that he wants to hurt you and that he think he knows that you're worthless, then you lose ground. And then you can't fight back.

But getting together a gang and slashing/maiming/killing the bully will never get your self-respect back. You must take it back yourself, by deciding that the bully is a weak and scared person that wants to look cool in other people's eyes. And that's hard as hell, because you only think "vengeance"...
That's why many victims make formidable bullies themselves, by adopting the aggressor's moves.
History agrees. "Slaves don't make good masters" is an old proverb.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
 
No no, you're missing the point. You don't hunt bullies. But when one comes after you, (for god knows what reason) stand up for yourself. I dunno, you seem to be coming from an intimidation point of view. Its not really part of my psychology to take shit from anyone.

There's no self respect issue in a long term sense to what I was talking about. The bully (or in this case, idiotic twat) just needs to know not to fuck with you.

In the instance I was describing the person was not a bully as such, he was basically trying to be clever, to a couple of his mates. Who did nothing to stop me going after him. If there's one thing you learn about these tools that hang around and harass people its that they have no loyalty to each other. They tend to be the misfits of the class who band together out of no reason other than that they are not particularily well liked.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Yes, there's also the brawling kids who needs to find out that you won't take any shit. Like animals, they always test how far they can go, yes. No intricate criticizing or retorical backstabs, just plain testosterone.

In the case of the bus incident, though, the boy could've stood up and fought back, but he wouldn't have. He was too scared.

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :
 
I took this kind of shit for three years before I just went and twatted the bastard. I've always been a pretty quiet person, (compared to some anyway) and when this guy started picking on me, I just took it, just like those clever teachers tell you when told of how to deal with bullies. Turn the other cheek my arse! (no pun intended). When I did that, it just prompted him to keep going. I've written all this down before, but it has to be said. If bullies respect you and think they have a fight on their hands, most of them won't carry on. The guy who was bullying me was a coward, so stopped when I hit him.

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :
 
Our school rules were pretty clear about one thing: Any student that is seen hitting another student is suspended or expelled.

I used to get a lot of hassle, mostly verbal abuse, from other students. It was my respect for the rules that crippled my ability to defend myself. Although physically I was capable of knocking these bullies out, I didn't want to fight back because I was afraid I'd get suspended. If I'd had a little less respect for the rules and a little more respect for myself, I'd have fought back, and maybe 5 years of my life wouldn't have been such hell.

This is something that parents should realize. Children can be led to believe that they are powerless to stop this, and that they should leave everything to the "authorities" and everything will be alright. This is not the case. If I ever have children they will know that self-respect is something you don't sell out on.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Aah, upbringing. Open-and-shut case.
I don't want to be a father that helps my kids all the time so they don't learn their own value and power.
But I'm afraid of becoming too hard instead, making them lose self determination and goals just the same.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
 
True. However I'll give you my example. When I was 5-6 (can't remember exactly) there was a fat kid in our apartment block who used to pick on me. I was a very small kid. Anyhoo my parents consulted his parents who blew it off. It was at that point that my father decided that some karate may be a good idea. He grounded me in the basics of some very nasty painful things one 5 year old can do to another. (You'd be surprised how much a foot stomp hurts when you are 5). Anyhow I've never forgotten those 3-4 things he showed me. Even after being an exponent in a different style of karate for 6 years myself, those first lessons stick. Needless to say I sought out the kid on the same day and hurt him bad enough so he never said boo to me again. His two friends were next.

I think that was when I learned not to take shit. But I have to wonder if that decision to show me how to hurt someone could have backfired if I'd taken to going after people. I dunno is his choice was good or bad, but it helped to set my track for later life.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I took Tae Kwon Do for two years when I was in high school -- got myself up to a green belt, too. Master Jang was quite clear in making it clear that if any of us "misused" what he taught us, he'd personally kick us about the studio for a few days.

Tae Kwon Do -- I can't speak for the other martial arts, as this is the only one I took -- is very big on self-discipline, when to (and when not to) use the skills, and I plan on enrolling my children in a TKD program (once I have them, of course. Children, not a TKD program).

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :
 
I myself have been a target up until 15. This was changed by a massive growth spurt. I ended up being a hella'(cartman's word ) bigger than everyone that gave me shite. Although people still mumble out the occasional insult, I just crack my knuckles and ask them what they said, so far the one and only anwser has been: oh, nothing, I was just talking to myself like the loser I am.
To which my reply is: that's what I thought, carry on.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
JeffK: My former Dojo used to have two classes training at each side of the big floor.
One was Karate, the other Tae Kwon Do. Sometimes they decided to spar, to see who's best.
They were incompatible, as the TKD'ers used far too exposed guards and overused their feet, giving the more fist-trained karatekas chances to push their kicks away and go into their gut and face.
Against eachother, the TKD'ers didn't have the same problem.
Just an observation.

Infinity: Good for you. (sarcasm-free)

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
 
What I've observed with TKD over the last few years is that its turned from a martial art into a point fighting sport due to the olympics. Whilst there are still traditional combat based dojangs (korean word) out there they seem to be few and far between. Karate is starting to suffer from the olympic syndrome but the association I train in is very real-combat based. Our regional chief is an south african ex-army/police/stuff. He develops the trains the british SAS in their hand/hand and non-weapons combat. We get the same stuff. I have faith in what I've been taught, but the biggest lesson I've learned is that its always better to avoid a fight, as you never know what will happen if you get into one. The longer you train, the more you realise just how little you know.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :
 
Our sensei is from Yugoslavia, and he is pretty much what your regular dictator is like, doesn't take crap from anyone, tolerates nothing in his dojo, and actually swears and hits people that are being dumbasses. But on the other hand that has resulted in our dojo totally creaming the rest whenever a competition comes by. We all train very hard, and when he asks us if we're tired, the people that say no have to do fifty pushups because they are not tired, while the others have to do them because they are out of shape.(it is almost a rhetorical question because no matter what happens you still do a lot of pushups)
His theory is that only the best is tolerated, and if you're not giving your best he's gonna force it out of you(may not appeal to the average person cuz the average person is very lazy, but if you do the work and don't complain you'll see that he is a nice person deep down.)
The whole thing is lined with medals(literally, there is a line of medals on every wall) and the trophies are lined up on the glass viewing toward outside and there is hundreds of them.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
But is he happy?

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
 
He sounds like a bad leader, IMHO.

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :
 
Sounds like a bad leader to me too- like the bad guy in the Karate Kid.

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Posted by Eclipse (Member # 472) on :
 
I took up Aikido when I came to Uni and found it a very worthwhile undertaking. One point is that you have to guage your response to the opponent's attack: if he doesn't go in totally committed but you're going full-whack killing mode, you're going to kill him, which is not what you want (most days).

That's all I'm going to say on the martial arts issue. I won't get into any slanging matches about which is best. Some value fleet-footedness, some grounding. Some take the fight to the enemy, some use his energy against him. But what I will say is that any 'art' that teaches its practicioners to go 100% regardless of how they are attacked will land its memebers in jail. Sure, you've got to be 100% committed to winning, but you've got to vary the force you use, or else it's like using a nuke to kill an ant.
 


Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
 
That is a very tenuous analogy, due to the fact that a martial art is a bunch of techniques. The individual, their mindset and the unique attributes of the conflict at hand will dictate to a large extent what will happen in a fight. Just because you study a martial art, you cannot guarantee victory. That kind of attitude will get you into trouble real quick.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :
 
No, he's not a bad guy, he just expects a lot from people, he'd never tell someone to break another guys leg just to win, honour is very important to him. He's just one of those people that are kinda hard on you, but they teach you really good and you have some real skills after that. There are only 3 black belts in our club, but those 3 people are beyond amazing, their skills are unbeleivable, they can be trully proud of it, a lot of people have quit, but the ones that stay are the best of the best.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :
 
Just curious, how long have you been training?

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :
 
Aboot nine months,(candy for stereoptyping americans ) I'm still at a orange belt level, but I'm progressing well, and I trained before, when I was a kid.

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
Back when I attended high school (late '70's) there was plenty of bullying - and the official line was "it's a part of life". My own father said that he would never punish me for being in a fight - but he would for losing one.
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I know one case which illustrates the action principle. One kid in my class (bookworm type of course), got kidded all the time - but just let it run off. He literally didn't care unless the language got abusive. If it did, he had a variety of witty retorts memorized, such as "Someday, when I'm driving my sportcar, and you're pumping gas into it, I'll try to remember to tip big". These worked - as he realized that all he had to do to win a particular engagement was to perfect his delivery - so the girls woulfd laugh at the bully.

The day came when one of his would-be tormentors finally crossed the line and hit him. He did not turn the other cheek, he did not run away and cry, he did not go and tell the teacher. He dropped his books and charged the bully - who was so starled that he rabbitted. Chased the bully half-way around the grounds before he finally tackled him, sat on his chest (witnesses) and then burst out laughing. When the bully asked why, the pursuer admitted that now that he had him - he wasn't exactly sure what he should do with him. They both started to laugh.

Did it 'cure' the bully? I wouldn't know - I don't gass up in that town anymore. But it did show a potential sociopath and his crew that the victim was indeed another human being, got the erstwhile victim a modicum of respect (he was greeted warmly at our last high school reunion), and made sure that it would not happen again.

A victim has to stand up for himself. No one can do it for him. And no, deadly force is obviously not called for - but a person's rights belong to him only if he will stand up for himself.

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Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :
 
I'll say this: If I was bullied like that, and had access to the guns I have here now, I would fucking blow thier heads off. Of course, I would be smart and use my M4 Suppressed with a scope and do it from about a mile away.

I was bullied, but durring that time I grew 7 inches and gained 50lbs. The next time I was bullied, I threw a guy into a river (it was a slow-moving one). No one messed with me ever again.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
If I was bullied like that, and had access to the guns I have here now, I would fucking blow thier heads off. Of course, I would be smart and use my M4 Suppressed with a scope and do it from about a mile away.

And this is a perfect example of why I think a vast segmenent of this nation's population are inherintly too fucking stupid to own guns. Oh, but it's their "God-given right", so oh well.

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
True enough Jeff, but in my country it is the government's god-given right to decide who can and who can't have a gun. Result? Most criminals have guns (they don't care).

Me, I'd like gun-licensing to depend on a combination IQ/Psych Stability Test.

...'course, I'd be called an elitist...:
"What, stupid people can't own guns?"

(on the other hand - who would be brave enough to admit they'd flunked?)

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Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :
 
Jeff - Need I remind you, I was around 10 years old at the time. If I was that age and had access to my guns now, I wouldnt be that smart now would I?

Today, if I was being held down by someone and tortured, I would still pull a gun or knife on them in self defense.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
If you were being held down, it would be awful hard to go for a weapon. Knee them in a tender spot, first. That distracts them long enough for you to make a move.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :
 
Go for the thumb or the nose, these are incredible weak spots that can be exploited very easily. If it's just some guy from school, apply pressure untill he surrenders, but if it's someone on the street and potentially dangerous, break his thumb right away.

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
"Hit the soft parts with your hand, hit the hard spots with a utensil"

- Spider Robinson

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
"Go for the thumb or the nose"

I can honestly say that I have never managed to knock a guy out with my nose. I must lack disaplin!!!

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :
 
You have erred tiny grashopper!
You must go for HIS thumb or nose, not your own.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Yes. Of course, the thumb isn't the easiest thing to grab in a fight, and the nose is full of icky snot. Eww.

Still, Treknophyle's example was actuallly nice. And does point out that making witty retorts isn't enough. You have to actually be funny enough to make other people laugh.

It was slightly ruined by Wes' follow-up "kill all scum until they are dead! Kill! Burn! Sausages!"

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-Trey Parker, co-creator of South Park
 


Posted by Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
 
Infinity, let me ask you something, a purely philosophical question. Just how stupid do you think I am?

Wow, these "gremlins" (is that what they're called nowadays? I'm too old for this shit)
sure convey the message!
 


Posted by Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
 
Wow, I'm actually getting cynical! I've been here too long.
Take heed, fish. This place changes you...
 
Posted by *InFiNiTy* (Member # 531) on :
 
I don't think that you're stupid as a person, you were probably joking in your previous statement, so I decided to respond with a joke as well. If that offended you, I am sorry, I didn't mean it in an offensive way. But in the future, please take my statements in the obvious way in which they were meant, don't search for stupid double meanings, cuz that's the one thing I can't stand, and people here have an abundance of.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
So, taking you literally, you think that Nimrod is a grasshopper, and you openly admit, in your status line, to being a murderer, which is illegal in both the US and the UK.

Interesting.
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Well, he does say "killa'", which isn't even a real word...
 
Posted by Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
 
Infinitah: Hey, who's getting worked up here??? I quoted Bester, FFS. I didn't want to end the joking, but I had to say something, Shirley you understand?

It's all good. And I don't search for double meanings in every message, life's too short. Although I like to deal out double meanings if the timing is right, I like british psychology.
 


Posted by Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
 
And I'm not locust, I'm prize beef!
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Prime beef works better, as you can force in a Tranformer joke.
 


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